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Recent content by Dozr

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    How I can train a Lucina

    So I use Bidou when I play Lucina. Perfect pivots help her immensely because Jab1 leads into so many things. (ppUtilt, ppFtilt, etc). I would practice mainly the ground game as Lucina/Marth's frame data in the air is pretty lackluster on landings. I recommend staying close to the ground mixing...
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    Bidou Lucina Labbing Discussion

    Yeah I've mainly been using PPUtilt to cover landings more easily to continue juggles. I'd normally use mainly PPFtilt and Fairs to space. If I'm doing PPUtilt I'll be doing it after getting a Jab1 at mid-high percents. It's also immensely useful for edge-guarding as the space you can cover...
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    Bidou Lucina Labbing Discussion

    I've been focusing on developing my Lucina play by utilizing Bidou. While I do think that Marth benefits from some tools more than Lucina does, there are a lot of useful things I have found that I'd love feedback and discussion on. 1. Perfect Pivot Uses: By using Bidou I can perfect pivot...
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    Queen of Smash - A Smash 4 Lucina Montage

    I appreciate the Lucina love (and spikes), but I wish there were more combo kills rather than double fair offstage on characters with bad recoveries.
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    Lucina Dair Lock Percents

    I was labbing some dair spike followups just now. If this is essentially a jab lock, what leads into this? So far I can only do Jab1 into Short Hop Dair spike consistently.
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    Where is Lucina on the Tier List, Relative to Marth?

    I agree with this way of looking at things. By looking at matchups it's easy to see that Marth and Lucina are solid characters. They have tools, and can hold their own in many matchups. They can struggle with the Top-Tiers because that is what made the top-tiers into the top-tiers in the first...
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    Where is Lucina on the Tier List, Relative to Marth?

    According to Kuroganehammer's website (frame data for smash 4) I see a consistent trend. Lucina's aerials have at most 1.6% less damage than Marth's tippers. Fair and Bair have either 1% or .7% less respectively. UpAir has 1.6% less, and Dair has 1.7% less. Nair1 has .8% less, and Nair2 has 1%...
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    Where is Lucina on the Tier List, Relative to Marth?

    I don't quite understand what you're implying by putting weighted tournament data with your comment. This whole debate is theoretical, as there is not enough representation of either Marth or Lucina in high-level play. All we have is the argument of consistency vs precision. If you can land 100%...
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    Where is Lucina on the Tier List, Relative to Marth?

    In terms of national-level play, I agree. At the local level I do think Lucina has potential to beat a lot of people, and has a lot of room to grow.
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    Where is Lucina on the Tier List, Relative to Marth?

    ME TOO! I've been labbing bidou Lucina hardcore since I heard about it. It's not tournament-ready yet, but it's so refreshing to see others see the potential in using it on a spacing character like Lucina/Marth. On a more related note, I tried to think of a way to buff lucina without making...
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