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Project M Social Thread
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Well, why do you think we're discussing it? It could be argued for the lowest buffer and what most resembles Melee. Also the argument of the benefits of higher buffer is already established.
Just to let you guys know I'm one of the worst at execution, so that has nothing to do with why I'm arguing for low buffer. It just makes things worse for me.
Cyan_Blau
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Buffer
1rst
I've tosay that for me buffer just lowers the input speed (and that's very important in Melee!)
2nd A lower buffer LVL is standard in Melee, so anything other (then the standard) should only be used offline - this mod will also be individual, If not it will indeed
Also myself is a good example for players who set the **** buffer always to 0 or 10% xD
1rst
I've tosay that for me buffer just lowers the input speed (and that's very important in Melee!)
2nd A lower buffer LVL is standard in Melee, so anything other (then the standard) should only be used offline - this mod will also be individual, If not it will indeed
Also myself is a good example for players who set the **** buffer always to 0 or 10% xD
Archangel
Smash Hero
So sick of reading about buffer arguments. Since the decision has been made I say move on to something else.
Well it seems like there has been some progression, and I'm not sure when you'd recommend it be resolved. I guess you could say it would be better to wait for input from more Melee players, but the logic isn't going change. I'd just rather it not be left on the shelf.
Yes, Bandit is right because we can't know what we do about the buffer and how it works that we already do, and can't see it's obvious implications.
Ok well letme be the first to change the subject...
uhhhh.....how's that landing detection code coming along, can't wait till its done with so we can actually start working on matching physics, hitboxes, BKB/ KBG, angles and all that good stuff. Some People that have watched the streams don't realize that any of this hasn't been implemented, thus saying "still looks like brawl to me".....that's because they are working on the major codes first.
no clue how CC'ing is coming along, but it is a Must for this game. i'm sure they'll find a way to code it. Relating to Crouch Canceling (and this is something that really bothers me in Brawl) is the fact that you can't D-smash with the C-stick while crouching (you d-tilt which is ********) Same goes for U-smashing.Also.... Not sure how CC'ing will work for characters with crawling animations o.O
uhh what else....Footstooling got remapped to Up-taunt and i heard you can change it to either Y/X (which ever you don't use to jump). Personally i would prefer Footstooling gone, as it does not really fit in, in a game like Melee, but i am willing to give this a try. (atleast no more phantom footstools)
and plz no reverse ledge grabbing T__T. We want a more challenging way to edgehog, not just running off the ledge and Ta-da!.... RLGs are fine on up-Bs but we should probably stick to only ones that Melee had. (e.x: Falcon's and not Marth's). Plus, the way pivoting works in brawl, with the help of wavedashing, it should be perfectly fine without reverse ledge grabbing
Tether wall grappling, as much as i want it, I have already left that idea behind since it's probably impossible to code. I'm sure Link's recovery will be fine with AGT.
this list just keeps getting longer, but i hate how brawl models fit brawl stages. I recall shanus stating that stages will get a 15-20% size increase.....looking foward to this.
last but not least, i'm pretty sure you guys are aiming to clone Melee's Camera which may already be done with or is further along than what i'm aware of.
Evidently, Good Luck to all of the P:M Team ^,^v
Edit: Oh and......why was Mario given Doc's nair? I hope you guys were just messing around e_e"
uhhhh.....how's that landing detection code coming along, can't wait till its done with so we can actually start working on matching physics, hitboxes, BKB/ KBG, angles and all that good stuff. Some People that have watched the streams don't realize that any of this hasn't been implemented, thus saying "still looks like brawl to me".....that's because they are working on the major codes first.
no clue how CC'ing is coming along, but it is a Must for this game. i'm sure they'll find a way to code it. Relating to Crouch Canceling (and this is something that really bothers me in Brawl) is the fact that you can't D-smash with the C-stick while crouching (you d-tilt which is ********) Same goes for U-smashing.Also.... Not sure how CC'ing will work for characters with crawling animations o.O
uhh what else....Footstooling got remapped to Up-taunt and i heard you can change it to either Y/X (which ever you don't use to jump). Personally i would prefer Footstooling gone, as it does not really fit in, in a game like Melee, but i am willing to give this a try. (atleast no more phantom footstools)
and plz no reverse ledge grabbing T__T. We want a more challenging way to edgehog, not just running off the ledge and Ta-da!.... RLGs are fine on up-Bs but we should probably stick to only ones that Melee had. (e.x: Falcon's and not Marth's). Plus, the way pivoting works in brawl, with the help of wavedashing, it should be perfectly fine without reverse ledge grabbing
Tether wall grappling, as much as i want it, I have already left that idea behind since it's probably impossible to code. I'm sure Link's recovery will be fine with AGT.
this list just keeps getting longer, but i hate how brawl models fit brawl stages. I recall shanus stating that stages will get a 15-20% size increase.....looking foward to this.
last but not least, i'm pretty sure you guys are aiming to clone Melee's Camera which may already be done with or is further along than what i'm aware of.
Evidently, Good Luck to all of the P:M Team ^,^v
Edit: Oh and......why was Mario given Doc's nair? I hope you guys were just messing around e_e"
Dingding123
Smash Journeyman
^^nah, sry dude. I beat you to changing the subject in my last post 
So, umm...is it happening tonight? :o
Wind Owl
Smash Lord
Gardevior
Smash Lord
Are USB Geckos no longer available? I'd chip in to buy PW one if he continues doing amazing stuff.
Wind Owl
Smash Lord
They stopped making them. If you can find one online, go right ahead (but it'll probably be well over $60).
Gardevior
Smash Lord
I know a friend who has one. I'll see if he still does, I know he doesn't use it.
GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
You're gonna make me cry, man...
But I'm doing well to remind myself what we can and will still do around here and this here is one thing that is happening for sure.
Reverse ledge grabbing doesn't work like Brawl anymore. There still is reverse ledge grabs though.
You can't run off the stage and tap back to reverse ledge grab, nor can you jump off and RLG (I'm just gonna use RLG from now on).
RLG only happens if you use your second jump or from an upB. Basically, you have to turn around before you can grab the ledge from running/first jump.
MacKellarTeam1
Smash Cadet
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Question: Is fox's bair going to be changed to the melee form again, or will it still be the brawl form?
rekrapadept
Smash Rookie
When edgeguarding with zamus does the down b jump allow her to RLG?
already been done
i'm not so sure about this one....if i recall correctly, down-B doesn't let you pivot in the air so probably not
rekrapadept
Smash Rookie
In brawl+, zamus can go either left/right with down b in the air. Is that being removed? If so, I think that's way too much of a nerf.
Dingding123
Smash Journeyman
I just remembered something from the last stream I saw...captain falcon's falcon kick to knee. That's just silly. Raptor boost to knee seems fair because it's easier to punish, but falcon kick...? I think grounded falcon kick should just be a move that knocks them directly back and is Able to KO at high %'s, but no comboing afterwards. That'd be a cool way to make up for the lack of that annoying combo. What do y'all think? Or have you guys fixed that yet?
Also, ganon's warlock punch. We all know it sucks as it is, so wouldn't making it more effective help towards the cause of making a competitive game? Someone earlier suggested that it not be nearly as strong, but sHould come out much more quickly and be able to deflect projectiles. I really like that idea. Ooh, how about deflecting projectiles at x2 speed? That'd be tight. Again, what are your thoughts on that?
Also, ganon's warlock punch. We all know it sucks as it is, so wouldn't making it more effective help towards the cause of making a competitive game? Someone earlier suggested that it not be nearly as strong, but sHould come out much more quickly and be able to deflect projectiles. I really like that idea. Ooh, how about deflecting projectiles at x2 speed? That'd be tight. Again, what are your thoughts on that?
ValTroX
Smash Ace
Guys, i had an idea about reverse ledge grabbing: why not leave reverse ledge grabbing ONLY during free falls? Cause some edges on brawl stages are just not fitted to be grabbed only facing them.
On other topic, i like the idea of mapping footstools to x/y(the one you don't use to jump) but I would also agree with you if you decide to remove them(I don't care much about footstools really, but they can make you a really nasty opponent if used correctly)
On other topic, i like the idea of mapping footstools to x/y(the one you don't use to jump) but I would also agree with you if you decide to remove them(I don't care much about footstools really, but they can make you a really nasty opponent if used correctly)
The reason you can Falcon kick to knee at the moment (and i'm repeating myself) is because physics, Knockback and angles haven't been modified for most of the roster yet. Once most of the Major codes are done they will be looking into those details.
I don't think Project M should be as open to "new move ideas" as Brawl+ was, as it can mislead and point the project in the wrong direction. Let's just stay focused on Melee-fying Brawl.
Dingding123
Smash Journeyman
Blargh, okay. Still, though...you cannot deny the suckage of the warlock punch. Give Ganon back his regular smash attack, at the very least. Also, other moves have been altered, so why not this one? Why should we keep the bad aspects of melee, like the plethora of useless b-moves?
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Dan_X
Smash Lord
I can chip in money within the next week or so. phantom wings has done a ton for us.
rPSIvysaur
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I'll chip in some, just PM me.
Wind Owl
Smash Lord
Does anyone know a reliable way to do this via PayPal, etc? I would chip in as well.
If you're trying to get people to chip in via paypal. the best thing to do is have someone trusting enough to hold the money via paypal and buy the USB Gecko and have the mailing address go to PW's crib.
That or donate to PW's paypal. V:
That or donate to PW's paypal. V:
Wind Owl
Smash Lord
The latter seems simpler, but the problem with that is getting ahold of him...
Sterowent
Smash Ace
i have, like...$2 left on a prepaid debit card. was thinking of putting it into the GPF, but if you guys can get ahold of PW's paypal...
i don't wanna send it, though, if this is just a way for him to fade out of the scene. hah, it'd be a shame, but i don't want to pressure the guy either.
i don't wanna send it, though, if this is just a way for him to fade out of the scene. hah, it'd be a shame, but i don't want to pressure the guy either.
Because you'd be able to airdodge and still RLG. You're also forgetting characters that don't have a freefall state from upB (Ike for example). It would just make more sense if the only time you can RLG is when you're at the peak of your upB.
I don't like the idea of placing Footstool Jumps on either X/Y. It may be unusual to some but I use both X and Y depending on what I want to do. I usually use Y for my B-button inputs and X for my A-button/c-stick inputs.
walter01
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You can always map it to a different button, if you use both X and Y, you have L, R and Z left (I don't know about other people but i only ever use R for shield and R+A to grab, I never use Z anymore and L is always changing between a few different functions).
I assume it can be mapped to any button but I don't know since its not a basic function of brawl.
JCaesar
Smash Hero
I already use X, Y, and R to jump in different situations.
R.I.P. footstooling
R.I.P. footstooling
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