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The Official BBR Tier List v4 -> Sonic's HA Stall is NOT beaten by spot dodge!!!!!!!!
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It'll be better to release this before this changes the tier list so that community integration will see how helpful this is. I'll remain skeptic, though.
Ike moving up is the same as just returning closer to his original place, where he kept going down from, so..
Ike moving up is the same as just returning closer to his original place, where he kept going down from, so..
Its GAYMANWATCH with his 0-death.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxm2POQnJLg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxm2POQnJLg
Poltergust
Smash Master
Yoshi actually has one of the best ledge-options in the game. Can you think of another character that can jab, d-smash, up-smash, or even f-smash from the ledge while still invincible?
*sigh* If only... if only...Maybe Yoshi can DR out of shield somehow.
...Not that I'd be able to do it anyhow, but still.
Shh. I'm trying to put Yoshi in a good light. D:
lol
lol
Jimmyfosho
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Peach.
milesg2g
Smash Champion
He's smooth alright but his other forms
meh.
meh.
Poltergust
Smash Master
With her float and stuff? Yeah, I can see that.
Peach.
I did say "one of" the best ledge-options in the game, though. =P
The Nameless Wanderer
Smash Lord
I sense a similar scenario to DASC...
Poltergust
Smash Master
Yeah, I was wondering what was going on with you on the ledge. @_@
Note to self: Don't be aggressive with Peach on the ledge.
Note to self: Don't be aggressive with Peach on the ledge.
tarextherex
Smash Apprentice
About Yoshi's ledge options: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmVMOij6HdM
Blacknight99923
Smash Champion
Like san said it isn't unreasonable to post this new "discovery" to the community prior to the tier list, after all if its NEW its never been used in a TOURNAMENT and is only THEORY CRAFT until otherwise USED.
so before the BBR jumps a character 10 slots ect please show us this discovery
so before the BBR jumps a character 10 slots ect please show us this discovery
Justblaze647
Smash Lord
I feel like this is becoming a very elaborate game of 'keep away'
Elyssa Xey Hexen
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Darn. DMG has tricked us all into talking for some 5-10 pages on something totally irrelevent.
I say we go back to the name discussion.
justblaze is too long, needs to be blaz.
I say we go back to the name discussion.
justblaze is too long, needs to be blaz.
Justblaze647
Smash Lord
Hah, my smash tag is actually "Doom?" but I'm thinking about changing it to avoid confusion with the other 'doom' players.
And Blaz looks dumb XD
Not that any of this matters, of course
And Blaz looks dumb XD
Not that any of this matters, of course
Pikabunz
Smash Hero
It's Sheik, guys.
So new tier list tomorrow?
Justblaze647
Smash Lord
Care to expound as to the reason(s) why?
Renki
Smash Journeyman
*Spits out all my soda*
Wait, what?
Not Fox...not Wolf...Not Luigi? SHEIK? Sheik is shooting up? No way.
phi1ny3
Not the Mama
I would love for sheik to shoot up.
Nidtendofreak
Smash Hero
Apparently, it has something to do with Sheiks finally figuring out what that down B move does.
Elyssa Xey Hexen
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Like I said, people finally figured out that Shiek and Zelda should be combined together.
da K.I.D.
Smash Hero
It does the same thing it did in melee, It makes all her moves but forward air and back air worse...
Renki
Smash Journeyman
Right there. Zelda really doesn't do much besides let Sheik kill earlier...and not get CG'd by Pika...and stand somewhat of a chance against IC's...
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.......
.........Hmmm....I need to sit down.
Elyssa Xey Hexen
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Not to get into opinions much, but I see it as:
Sweetspot Zelda Bair/Fair >Shiek Bair/Fair > Sourspot Zelda Bair/Fair
Also,
|x^2-1| < 3 =
-3 <= (x^2-1) <= 3
And before I forget, Snake is moving down this tier list and someone from A tier is replacing him for 2nd best.
Wait, how did you know K Prime? I'm assuming Espy told you?
Yes, it is in fact Shiek. You all know the chain glitch right? Where she can power it up by doing moves in a specific way? Well M2K goofed off with her not too long ago and discovered something a bit similar. If you platform cancel a Bair and buffer certain moves, your attacks gain that damage/knockback/priority until it wears off. For example, say you platform cancel a Bair and buffer an Usmash. Your next few attacks, even if they are small like Jabs or Tilts, will do Usmash damage and knockback.
Not everything is known about the specifics (for example, does it wear off if you clank attacks? How long exactly does it last? What moves work with this? *Dtilt oddly enough doesn't*).
Yes, it is in fact Shiek. You all know the chain glitch right? Where she can power it up by doing moves in a specific way? Well M2K goofed off with her not too long ago and discovered something a bit similar. If you platform cancel a Bair and buffer certain moves, your attacks gain that damage/knockback/priority until it wears off. For example, say you platform cancel a Bair and buffer an Usmash. Your next few attacks, even if they are small like Jabs or Tilts, will do Usmash damage and knockback.
Not everything is known about the specifics (for example, does it wear off if you clank attacks? How long exactly does it last? What moves work with this? *Dtilt oddly enough doesn't*).
Justblaze647
Smash Lord
i'm not *****ing
Also, vids or it never happened
Also, vids or it never happened
YagamiLight
Smash Champion
I would argue that Zelda has a better Down Tilt, Down Smash and Down Aerial as well as a better Forward Smash.
Also Zelda's Down B is better than Sheik's.
Renki
Smash Journeyman
That's....interesting. Yeah, majority of Sheiks did find the Chain Jacket to be useless.
Yay Jason. *claps*
Yay Jason. *claps*
Life
Smash Hero
That's... pretty awesome. itz not sawnik T_T
Of course, more research must be done but that should give Sheik some great kill power I assume? (But of course your opponent will now do anything to stop you from platform canceling Bair so....)
Of course, more research must be done but that should give Sheik some great kill power I assume? (But of course your opponent will now do anything to stop you from platform canceling Bair so....)
da K.I.D.
Smash Hero
thats pretty cool.
does it work on throws? cus if not im just going to molest my shield button whenever this happens.
dang, you definitely got me on that one.
Pikabunz
Smash Hero
I was just guessing. I just think Sheik's underrated. Her ground speed and attacks are ridiculously fast, which makes her an excellent punisher, she can gr to upsmash some characters, and umm... she's got needles... Also, wasn't she high tier on the Japanese tier list?
I forgot all about the chain glitch.
I forgot all about the chain glitch.
da K.I.D.
Smash Hero
but if you could stack on dash attack that would be amazing since all of the characters that she can GR up smash, she can GR DA too, and thats like 15000 times easier.
Well ****. I'm interested in the finer details of this tech as well, especially if the usmash knockback can be transferred to throws/needles :o
lol brawl. Too good.
lol brawl. Too good.
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da K.I.D.
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@chuee i dont care, either is good enough.
turning dash attack(her easiest to hit with move) into a KO move is enough to move shiek up at least a comple spots. The ease of set up will also be a factor. cus if its less time restrictive to just transform, than thats not going to help at all.
not to mention the fact that in most places, theres only like 3 stages where platform canceling is even possible.
turning dash attack(her easiest to hit with move) into a KO move is enough to move shiek up at least a comple spots. The ease of set up will also be a factor. cus if its less time restrictive to just transform, than thats not going to help at all.
not to mention the fact that in most places, theres only like 3 stages where platform canceling is even possible.
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