SusanMaybe he's thinking of uh...uhhhh....Suspect? :<
Who else has a name with "Su" in it?
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SusanMaybe he's thinking of uh...uhhhh....Suspect? :<
Who else has a name with "Su" in it?
Oh Pierce, I didn't know you were the only moderator on this websiteOkay, so for about the past week or so, I was on vacation, which is why such a large level of flaming, trolling, etc was tolerated up until this point.
True.Ding ding ding.
Espy wins the thread.
Hell, they don't even have to say "because we felt like it"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVEvg4jtGlkXyro and AZ.
In essence it just lets local TO's know:
If you want to prepare for every (currently known) national for next year. You will adopt this stage list:
*gives stage list*
Kthxbai.
Which I think was pretty cool. Let's TO's know to use that stage list. Rather forces them too in a way. I feel unity is worth that, especially due to nationals.
We're testing who is the most skilled at rules we agree too. Well if I have a few months to try and learn Distant Planet because some regional is using it.. and it's ONLY that regional (which I'm traveling to from OoS) so it's only really that REGIONS local TO's running that stage. I'm going to be at a disadvantage, and I may not place well.
All because the community can't agree upon a standard. I don't have as well as a shot of placing.
/that's why unity is important people. Just because YOU don't travel doesn't mean it's overrated.
while you continue to think that, enjoy getting better at a far slower pace than you could be.Large wall of text
umadI know how to space. >:[
10warios
arent you the person who said player skill has nothing to do w/ analyzing stagesSee, a lot of people like to go for this whole "we tested it and deemed it banworthy back in '08" idea. Snake was considered the best, DDD one of the best, chars in the game around '08. Think about that for a moment. We SUCKED at brawl back then! We were awful! Hell, even 2009, where not everyone (read: nobody except ally) had upped their game to deal with MK, and nobody had upped their game to **** good snakes.
maybe if you got better your view on PTAD would change alsoThe analogy I'm trying to draw attention to is the simple factor that when people suck, **** changes.
****So you are comparing stage analysis with character metagame growth and match-up knowledge.
It's a bad comparison.
Analyzing a stage is no where near as in-depth as evolving a character's metagame and expanding their character match-up ability.
Our level of skill has nothing to do with our ability to analyze a stage and determine if it's worth having in our stage list set. Especially since we had Melee as a precedent to help aid in that process.
@AZ: I looooooooved Skyworld. So funny.
are you expecting the average person to write that much about... garbage *** stages. let alone care that much LOL.Why did I never see anything nearly as detailed as razieks analysis about these stages?
your posts have been pretty ****Just saying, but if I was a TO and, at my tournament, five people out of the eventual 100 entrants came up to me and said that Distant Planet is competitive and should be added to the stage list because of that, I'd tell them they are SOL.
Seriously, it's really not that big of a deal. I haven't heard of a time of someone not attending a tournament because Japes is banned. Would it be nice if Japes was legal? Sure. I love that stage. But the world doesn't end if Japes doesn't show up on a tournament's stagelist.
The minority has every right to voice their opinion, as they have. But this is becoming extremely circular, because, again, you're all repeating your same points over and over and have not budged since this topic has started.
You will not get anywhere doing that.
LOL *waits for **** storm*If you haven't realized it already, you and the same repeated 5 people are the only ones that do like it. We're not pushing it on others when you and a minority are the ones pushing what we don't like on us.
see this is some big *** words here, and if i try to comprehend them and respond i will have to see More big *** words, and most likely walls of textNo, we use argumentation. You use a fallacy. Thats the major difference.
thisthe few group of "chosen ones" seem to always be right just because they can write bigger walls of texts than we do and claim how they have superior logic
LOL i had the same thoughtUse fallacy? What does this even mean?
inceptionA fallacy to your mind.
adhd stepping those debate skills upThis is why I classify you as a fool. There's only black and white.
THISif we're going to compromise please trade picto for japes
LOLSure glad i'm not part of the minority.... bahahaa
thisthe Stagelist would be really good without Picto.
pretty muchEven I'll admit Picto might be worse than Japes. The only thing wrong with Picto is it's obstacles spawning into you randomly. Otherwise, it'd be alright.
johnsOkay, so for about the past week or so, I was on vacation, which is why such a large level of flaming, trolling, etc was tolerated up until this point.
From this post forward, any posts flaming or trolling will receive an infraction without warning or hesitation.
Any discussion about the legality of stages can take place in a separate thread. If the BBR Ruleset committee wants the mass public's opinion on stages, they can make an additional thread to ask for it. Otherwise, stage discussion in this thread has proven to be too degenerate and unproductive, in addition to off-topic.
This is the first and last warning oolmonke
because this. YO MIC WHERE YOU @ LOLOh Pierce, I didn't know you were the only moderator on this website
That's awesome
This post was not worth 2 points pierce, sheeshOh Pierce, I didn't know you were the only moderator on this website
That's awesome
don't praise pierce when you could have easily alerted another mod to stop the spam. even if you can't be on a computer, you can obviously still post. send a PM to another mod to monitor the thread and things could have happened in a more frindly manner.Stop. Just stop. He's being a stern moderator instead of a "cool mod". I've been without a computer for the past week or so, which is why I haven't been able to monitor this thread. Pierce is right to be infracting. You have been breaking forum policy by flaming and trolling and it is our job to prevent it. We have been too lax and now we're taking action. As soon as I get access to a computer, I will be strict on this thread. iTouch out.
so with you being in here the whole time why did you not alert someone else as to the level of trolling so someone else would have been infracting the spam and trolling since you're obviously saying there was in fact these things going on since you did not object to pierces complaint?Pierce won't be responding to your post here, Albert. Take it to PM or Forum Support.
Everyone else stay on topic.
It really doesn't take that much time to learn the stages, you know. Even a few friendlies on a stage is enough to figure out what are good strategies and what are not.You focus your practice on stages you won't end up using. Ever heard of the phrase "Spreading yourself too thin"?
You can officially put me on board now :DCorrect Keitaro. At this time we haven't decided on which will be starters/counter picks and will be adding more TOs to the room before such a decision is made.
I would have handed out infractions a long time ago if i had power here.don't praise pierce when you could have easily alerted another mod to stop the spam. even if you can't be on a computer, you can obviously still post. send a PM to another mod to monitor the thread and things could have happened in a more frindly manner.
so with you being in here the whole time why did you not alert someone else as to the level of trolling so someone else would have been infracting the spam and trolling since you're obviously saying there was in fact these things going on since you did not object to pierces complaint?
I don't see how the level of discussion went from completely tolerable since omni gave NO WARNING that major trolling was going on (other than future) to completely intolerable in such a short amount of time.
/waits to be infracted for a legitimate concern
I will agree with Hax when I say the following:Correct Keitaro. At this time we haven't decided on which will be starters/counter picks and will be adding more TOs to the room before such a decision is made.
Not proof, reasoning would be the better word.I will agree with Hax when I say the following:
There should never be a seperation of starters and counter picks. If you are saying a stage is OK to play on - it is OK to play on on Game 1.
If you are saying it is to drastic and game-breaking to be played on Game 1. Then it is obviously not a stage worthy of competitive play.
My proof?
Apply this horrible logic to other things that could be.
Imagine banning MK... but only for game 1.
Imagine having a LGL.... but only for game 1.
Imagine banning DDD's standing infinite.... but only for game 1.
It's horrible logic. (Not that the above 3 bans are horrible logic without applying worse logic to them... but that's beside the point...)
When you pretend to be "debating" as to see who is right, then use terms like proof and keep on acting like you are always right, thats a contradiction, not semantics. Its just how it is. Add me on your ignore list, that will only prove how contradictory your statements about debating are.I'm about to just add everyone who wants to argue semantics on my ignore list.
You know very, very damn well what I meant.
The concept is logically flawed. Saying a stage is unfit for gameplay then turning around and saying it's fine no more than 8 minutes later.