Nike.
Smash Hero
Roy_R wasn't there for me to meatride 
I asked a couple ppl who Future used and they all said IC's.
I asked a couple ppl who Future used and they all said IC's.
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(」・ω・)」 MARS la Marf in Smash 4 (／・ω・)／
- Thread starter Virgilijus
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Nike.
Smash Hero
We talked a little. Theres no hate. But we never MM'd. Broly really wanted to but idk if they ever did.
Teh Future
Smash Master
=(((( i didnt know who you were and I saw someone playing marth once and it was sebreik. So i stopped trying to find out if I ever saw a marth after that LOL.Roy_R wasn't there for me to meatride
I asked a couple ppl who Future used and they all said IC's.
but yeah everyone still thinks i use ics but im trying not to bc they are dum and boring
4th gen is full of stall? I thought 4th gen was the trend toward promoting quick and dirty offense, or building up trains to run over everyone. =V
Although I haven't played much or almost nothing at all of competitive 4th gen. That generation was what I considered "changing too much" imo.
Regardless, the assertion that the Pokemon community is filled with those types of people is also a reason why I distanced from playing those games beyond pesudo-informed-casual-play anyway. Yes I am implying I am largely ignorant of the finer workings of 4th generation play (in fact I forgot but the bare basics of even 2nd and 3rd gen).
Ignorance is simply an inevitable human condition. But to be willfully ignorant and vehemently arrogant is another. Those types of people are unbearable.
so guys i was watching madoka and episode 10 is like endless **** it's rly good not reik haruhi overrated imho ryouko is pretty hawt
VibeSlyph
Smash Ace
Dream world is bull**** imo.
I thought he didn't cause of what he said in the whobo thread before the tourny.
He asked nike to mm him or was he gonna run and talk ish like usual or something in that matter.
Anyways, im going all marth in a tourny this weekend. First time in maybe almost 2 years where I havent used multiple characters in a tourny. Hype
He asked nike to mm him or was he gonna run and talk ish like usual or something in that matter.
Anyways, im going all marth in a tourny this weekend. First time in maybe almost 2 years where I havent used multiple characters in a tourny. Hype
xxmoosexx
Smash Lord
4th Gen really isn't stallish at all. With pokemon like infernape, dragon dance dnite, ChestoRest Kingdra, and assortment of Gengar, Lucario, and Dragon Dance tyranitar.4th gen is full of stall? I thought 4th gen was the trend toward promoting quick and dirty offense, or building up trains to run over everyone. =V
Although I haven't played much or almost nothing at all of competitive 4th gen. That generation was what I considered "changing too much" imo.
Regardless, the assertion that the Pokemon community is filled with those types of people is also a reason why I distanced from playing those games beyond pesudo-informed-casual-play anyway. Yes I am implying I am largely ignorant of the finer workings of 4th generation play (in fact I forgot but the bare basics of even 2nd and 3rd gen).
Ignorance is simply an inevitable human condition. But to be willfully ignorant and vehemently arrogant is another. Those types of people are unbearable.
so guys i was watching madoka and episode 10 is like endless **** it's rly good not reik haruhi overrated imho ryouko is pretty hawt
4th gen was about knocking out the opponents bulky water and sweeping.
Before Mence was banned it was all about Magnezone/Salamence offensive core.
Before Latias was banned....i have no idea, never played before latias was banned. But I'd assume it'd be Latias and Salamence putting massive pressure on teams with scizor to scout and take care of tyranitar. Which led to heatran risage.
xxmoosexx
Smash Lord
is that an honest opinion or just a trolololly comment?
If you think that...then whatever happened to Crocune?
Nike.
Smash Hero
He did? Where was that post? x)
then i was like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DwT_2QQU64
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DwT_2QQU64
Just trolling, even tho when I first started playing I had one on my team.
And made alot of people rage quit. Or he just did good.
ability-body fat (whatever it was called)
held the berry that awoke you from sleep
body slam/ rest/ curse/ fire punch
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12302059&postcount=3468
VibeSlyph
Smash Ace
you don't. lol.someone teach me how to beat ****ing Marth with Peach
Nike.
Smash Hero
Zano
Smash Master
teach me how to beat ****ing Peach with Marthsomeone teach me how to beat ****ing Marth with Peach
seems every peach knows the MU waaay more than I do, even though I don't know the MU, so that's probably why
VibeSlyph
Smash Ace
When I'm not rushing down and ******, I use ftilt a lot and it works.teach me how to beat ****ing Peach with Marth
seems every peach knows the MU waaay more than I do, even though I don't know the MU, so that's probably why
edit: Actually, I play the MU pretty defensively.
Zano
Smash Master
brb, gonna religiously watch the sets between Illmatic and Nike
Nike.
Smash Hero
Your gonna be dissapointed.
Illmatic plays aggressively and doesn't camp. He's a better player than me, but his style simply will not work vs marth.
I played Razmikazi in pools for 2 sets. He camped and followed up every turnip with an ariel that I couldn't punish. He knew what he was doing and how to play the matchup. Both sets went to game 3 and every game went to last hit.
What it really comes down to is how you beat peaches fair.
Nair spaced and timed perfectly can beat it I think. I try and time it so that nair comes out after the fair but before peach lands (the window is very small with fair auto cancelling, which is where the godly timing/spacing comes in).
The other way you can do it is counter. If she hits you off stage and you try to get on and you see her floating sort of with your body, you know that hes gonna try to time a fair. Counter it.
You can also set up 50/50 traps your grab game. Say you get a fthrow that puts them to the edge (giving you big stage advantage). Peach's options are fair, float cancel away, air dodge on stage. When that happens:
Counter/shield grab the fair
Pivot grab the air dodge to reset the situation.
Stand your ground if she float cancels back and forth right above the ledge and react to how shes going to land.
Also learn to SDI her dair. I practiced it enough one day to be able to either SDI into the ground to fsmash or SDI up/left/right and fair her.
I didn't do this stuff nearly as much as I wanted to against Illmatic, but that's my mindset going into peach matches. Fthrow trap worked wonders on Raz and it's the only reason I won.
Illmatic plays aggressively and doesn't camp. He's a better player than me, but his style simply will not work vs marth.
I played Razmikazi in pools for 2 sets. He camped and followed up every turnip with an ariel that I couldn't punish. He knew what he was doing and how to play the matchup. Both sets went to game 3 and every game went to last hit.
What it really comes down to is how you beat peaches fair.
Nair spaced and timed perfectly can beat it I think. I try and time it so that nair comes out after the fair but before peach lands (the window is very small with fair auto cancelling, which is where the godly timing/spacing comes in).
The other way you can do it is counter. If she hits you off stage and you try to get on and you see her floating sort of with your body, you know that hes gonna try to time a fair. Counter it.
You can also set up 50/50 traps your grab game. Say you get a fthrow that puts them to the edge (giving you big stage advantage). Peach's options are fair, float cancel away, air dodge on stage. When that happens:
Counter/shield grab the fair
Pivot grab the air dodge to reset the situation.
Stand your ground if she float cancels back and forth right above the ledge and react to how shes going to land.
Also learn to SDI her dair. I practiced it enough one day to be able to either SDI into the ground to fsmash or SDI up/left/right and fair her.
I didn't do this stuff nearly as much as I wanted to against Illmatic, but that's my mindset going into peach matches. Fthrow trap worked wonders on Raz and it's the only reason I won.
xxmoosexx
Smash Lord
I hate that Abel kid >.>
He spammed up my wifi friend finder for brawl site
He tried spamming my visitor's message area up
He spammed the owner of my wifi friend finder for brawl
Now hes here >.> But as long as hes banned im cool with it.
He spammed up my wifi friend finder for brawl site
He tried spamming my visitor's message area up
He spammed the owner of my wifi friend finder for brawl
Now hes here >.> But as long as hes banned im cool with it.
Zano
Smash Master
Thanks Nike, I'll remember all that
VibeSlyph
Smash Ace
Good peaches will use more Bair if you're ****** their Fair. Just saying.
Remzi
formerly VaBengal
Marth v DK is like 55-45 Marth imo.
I played Will in a few friendlies at pound, and he beat me in most of them, but I felt like I was able to control the match pretty easily for the most part with full jump aerials + classic grounded defense. I would usually have a pretty decent lead 3rd stock and he would come up with some crazy hard read to win it.
Part of that can be attributed to Will being better than me, but you also have to consider that DK reaps a higher reward from a big read than most characters, including Marth. And that has to be factored into the MU as well.
If Marth has an advantage at all, it isn't a big one. I can definitely say I don't think DK has an advantage, though.
I played Will in a few friendlies at pound, and he beat me in most of them, but I felt like I was able to control the match pretty easily for the most part with full jump aerials + classic grounded defense. I would usually have a pretty decent lead 3rd stock and he would come up with some crazy hard read to win it.
Part of that can be attributed to Will being better than me, but you also have to consider that DK reaps a higher reward from a big read than most characters, including Marth. And that has to be factored into the MU as well.
If Marth has an advantage at all, it isn't a big one. I can definitely say I don't think DK has an advantage, though.
Nike.
Smash Hero
Bair loses to ftilt.
VibeSlyph
Smash Ace
Fair doesn't always though, although like I said before, I do Ftilt a lot, and it does work. lol.
Kuro~
Nitoryu Kuro
Lmao if your winning it wont be 5 mins till they do something.
Teh Future
Smash Master
^well i waited for a like a minute and got bored LOL.
marth vs peach isn't bad at all bc peach is stupid bull**** and goes through swords
marth vs peach isn't bad at all bc peach is stupid bull**** and goes through swords
Albert.
Smash Master
DK kills marth too early with practical and reasonable moves for Marth to win.
Lord Chair
Smash Master
Practical and reasonable moves being bair.
edit: perhaps utilt, but you're pretty ****ed in that situation and shouldve been uaired 2 years before even getting low enough to be utilted
edit: perhaps utilt, but you're pretty ****ed in that situation and shouldve been uaired 2 years before even getting low enough to be utilted
Albert.
Smash Master
Lord Chair leave the theory craft stuff aside, DK's Dsmash is fast enough.