Scar talks Lean Melee [2012YotF]

Windrose · Apr 25, 2011

I get in alot of zelda cpu practice. I originally try to practice against sheik but the cpu keeps turning into zelda. As a result, I have alot of knowledge on how to beat the crap out of zelda. :troll:

PS: I miss that mango falcon tips thread. what happened to him? Why did he get "super banned?" (i didn't really start diving into SWF until really recently)

EDIT: after doing some digging into old threads in the CF forum, i found many useful threads that contain answers to alot of questions that people ask and some of them even contain posts from magus with helpful advice.

For example, I found hax's melee falcon thread...not sure if we can even use this anymore, the last post was over 2 years ago....http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=231492

Wenbobular · Apr 25, 2011

Hax said:
falcon has no approaching moves. to make up for this he has the goodest dashdance ever which you should use a lot. also doublejump alot.. sh*t *****. let em come to you and skeet on them with a hax combo

What else do you need to know
GOODEST DASHDANCE EVER

0Room · Apr 25, 2011

Eh I like to know everything. Like what can I do off a grab, can I even do anything off a grab [luigi it seems you can't, except maybe a uair], etc.
Zelda's fair and bair frustrate me, I'm not sure when to bust in.

MikeHaggarTHAKJB · Apr 25, 2011

If zelda spams shdf you can nair in between the two fairs/bairs (same thing when marth does shdf). you can lead this to a 0-death combo, so much fun <3. works both from a dashdance and oos. if they try to approach more aggressively with dash attack/grab just dd grab them (dont try to shieldgrab if you think theyre gonna dash attack, zeldas are often good at mixing up grab/dash attack)
if they di up at low percent dont forget to sneak in knees and combo from those (since nair doesnt work if they di up and uair doesnt combo until 30% or so).

Strong Bad said:
You mean this?

yhea ive seen those gifs, i was in the thread when magus posted them for the first time.
he said that it was just ideas that he had and he hadnt tested them in real matches lol.

but i still think those things can work well and ive forgotten about them every time ive met smasher89 (the planking puff). i should start using the stuff in that gif.
ill just ask some of the local smashers here play planking puff vs me next time i play with them lol, so i can practice.

unfortnately the fj bair thing only works on fd. but on other stages you can waveland on the platform next to it and drop->bair, which might actually be even safer/better.

Also does hax have a fan page on FB? if not someone make it. and dont forget to list him as an athlete. =)

Winston · Apr 25, 2011

0Room said:
Eh I like to know everything. Like what can I do off a grab, can I even do anything off a grab [luigi it seems you can't, except maybe a uair], etc.
Zelda's fair and bair frustrate me, I'm not sure when to bust in.

dthrow -> knee doesn't really combo Luigi but most Luigis will miss the DI, be too slow, trade, or jump into it like 4/5 of the time. So it's definitely worth going for at KO percents unless they've proven they will get out of it.

Mokumo · Apr 25, 2011

MikeHaggarTHAKJB said:
Also does hax have a fan page on FB? if not someone make it. and dont forget to list him as an athlete. =)

i dont think he has a fan page BUT he showed up on my recommended friends list a couple days ago xD

The Upholder · Apr 25, 2011

So, if there was a falcon who could perfectly space nipple stomps whenever he wanted if they were physically possible, how much better would that make him?

It is, after all, the strongest spike ever.

I've just been thinking about this for a while now, and it's hard to tell. Things like stomp to nipple stomp on the edge would be fantastic, as well as comboing into a nipple stomp, but how often would it actually come up to make a significant difference? For instance, how many throws actually combo to stomp and at what percents on what characters? Ie, if there was some way to consistently pull the spike off on jiggs it would be pretty nifty.

Mokumo · Apr 25, 2011

stomp -> nipple stomp ko doesn't sound that hard if you know the %s

The Upholder · Apr 25, 2011

The thing is it would be best at lower percents against, say fox. I think it works as low as like 50, but you have very little room for error, and spacing it perfectly is pretty difficult, in addition to placing yourself horizontally, you have to fastfall at exactly the right time, or else you end up too high, but if you do it too early the stomp doesn't come out. I wonder when it works against jiggs/peach?

That's overall an easier use though because the stomp doesn't get DIed that often.

ryankam10 · Apr 25, 2011

The Upholder said:
Ie, if there was some way to consistently pull the spike off on jiggs it would be pretty nifty.

This works at almost any percent , even up to like 100 or above, so long as they DI inwards. Yeah, I know puffs probably wouldnt DI inwards but if they get scared and mess up their DI, it combos into nipple spike at like 100. I tried it but didn't record it unfortunately.

thumbswayup · Apr 25, 2011

Upsmash to nipple spike, I've done it many times before. It's the best way to get a low percent nipple spike gimp imo cause the upsmash sends them pretty high even at lower percents. So just upsmash by the ledge and immediately jump dair

CaptainNanD0 · Apr 25, 2011

downthrow to nipple spike works on jiggs 30-35%

-hax

Brookman · Apr 25, 2011

I'm glad we're discussing nipple spikes.

The Upholder · Apr 25, 2011

You should be.

Juggleguy · Apr 25, 2011

Falcons need to work on consistently pulling off dthrow nipple spike against Peach near the ledge. I swear that **** is almost guaranteed if you're consistent at the nipple spike spacing.

Shroomed · Apr 25, 2011

I was wondering, what did you guys think of Lord's falcon?

ETWIST51294 · Apr 25, 2011

He's great.

CaptainNanD0 · Apr 25, 2011

who's lord?

Mokumo · Apr 25, 2011

some dude that plays falcon. there are videos of him beating people.

scar, what race do you play in sc2?

MikeHaggarTHAKJB · Apr 25, 2011

he plays *****

ETWIST51294 · Apr 25, 2011

wow, really? gtfoutta here with that bull****.

GooeyBanana · Apr 25, 2011

Ok, so when you say SDI to tech **** more often, do you mean like...holding the control stick obviously into the stage, and then uh...well what would you be doing with the C-stick in the meantime? I don't think I've ever gotten a clearcut answer on this whenever I've asked, so I just always hold the control stick and that's it xD

0Room · Apr 25, 2011

GooeyBanana said:
Ok, so when you say SDI to tech **** more often, do you mean like...holding the control stick obviously into the stage, and then uh...well what would you be doing with the C-stick in the meantime? I don't think I've ever gotten a clearcut answer on this whenever I've asked, so I just always hold the control stick and that's it xD

SDI is when you slam the control stick [not c stick] in between the time when you're hit and the knockback is applied.

MikeHaggarTHAKJB · Apr 25, 2011

ETWIST51294 said:
wow, really? gtfoutta here with that bull****.

oh cmon it was a joke
now have some chicken, itll calm your nerves

MikeHaggarTHAKJB · Apr 25, 2011

IM SO SORRY I COULDNT HELP MYSELF lol

Deleted member · Apr 25, 2011

GooeyBanana said:
Ok, so when you say SDI to tech **** more often, do you mean like...holding the control stick obviously into the stage, and then uh...well what would you be doing with the C-stick in the meantime? I don't think I've ever gotten a clearcut answer on this whenever I've asked, so I just always hold the control stick and that's it xD

for both sticks hold towards the edge and you will tech almost everything unless u are suking

==

Lord as solid as he is has 0 business being in grand finals, even rank 5-7 socal can probably easily **** whats left of norcal now except maybe shroomed.

No silentspectre, no lucien, no pewpewu, scar is sandbagging

pitiful region lol

ETWIST51294 · Apr 25, 2011

MikeHaggarTHAKJB said:
IM SO SORRY I COULDNT HELP MYSELF lol

At least put like a "kidding" at the end or some ****. A lot of people are racist on the interwebs sadly. -_-

steak>chicken btw

Deleted member · Apr 25, 2011

fried chicken *****

but..

bad chicken > bad steak

good chicken < good steak

ETWIST51294 · Apr 25, 2011

i agree with that.

Grape soda > every drink though. ****in steriotypes...

Wenbobular · Apr 25, 2011

I like water

ETWIST51294 · Apr 25, 2011

I hate water.

Don't know why.

edit: That doesn't mean I don't drink it, I just gotta force myself.

Strong Badam · Apr 25, 2011

Dr Pepper all the way.

ETWIST51294 · Apr 25, 2011

Dr Pepper = Grape soda.

Strong Badam · Apr 25, 2011

That's a preposterous statement.

ETWIST51294 · Apr 25, 2011

I dsagree.

Walt · Apr 25, 2011

Dr. Pepper in not water. Not at all, I like both but: Root Beer, son

Juggleguy · Apr 25, 2011

wait

what happened to SS, lucien, and pewpewu

MikeHaggarTHAKJB · Apr 25, 2011

ETWIST51294 said:
At least put like a "kidding" at the end or some ****. A lot of people are racist on the interwebs sadly. -_-

steak>chicken btw

im not one of them =) couldnt help myself like i said XD

also, julmust/påskmust->all other sodas. exclusive to sweden, *****ES

Deleted member · Apr 25, 2011

Juggleguy said:
wait

what happened to SS, lucien, and pewpewu

dunno, they kinda randomly disappeared

SS is SS

Lucien had a lot of promise, people disagreed on whether he was actually good or nobody knows how to fight Shieks (this is 100% true) but I truly believe he has the potential to become a Melee Great. I think School happened which is why he stopped

Pewpewu was going to become the next Mango and then got pwnd and disappeared

tarheeljks · Apr 25, 2011

MikeHaggarTHAKJB said:
im not one of them =) couldnt help myself like i said XD

also, julmust/påskmust->all other sodas. exclusive to sweden, *****ES

whoops, wish i had known you were joking b/c i reported it

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