Scar talks Lean Melee [2012YotF]

vadgama · May 4, 2011

Thought this would be a good place to leave a vid of Captain Falcon getting ***** by Me and Jiggs in 2 seconds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFaru_lkwwg

thumbswayup · May 4, 2011

Wenbobular said:
Yeah I did
What a mistake spraypainting the whole thing was
I should've just done the insignia and left it at that T_T

Why was it a mistake? It looks just like SS's controller. Do you have any of that stuff left lol I want mine that color as well. Once I buy a new one that is

Nando, yeah fsmash ***** peach. At a MD/VA tourny in late 09 I rocked DoH cause I fsmashed everytime he came near me floating and I am notoriously bad vs peach

linkoninja · May 4, 2011

What is shield DI?

Random question
what's the most amount of peeps you've seen in one character specific board? I think I saw like 17 on the Falcon boards a while back

I forgot

ETWIST51294 · May 4, 2011

Shield DI is when you DI... with your shield. It's like if you get hit with a multihit move you can tilt the shield and move towards the other dude. I'm pretty sure thats what it is. If I'm worng of you gotta better explaination go ahead.

Wenbobular · May 5, 2011

thumbswayup said:
Why was it a mistake? It looks just like SS's controller. Do you have any of that stuff left lol I want mine that color as well. Once I buy a new one that is

Nando, yeah fsmash ***** peach. At a MD/VA tourny in late 09 I rocked DoH cause I fsmashed everytime he came near me floating and I am notoriously bad vs peach

I think it's because I play so much on it that the paint has kinda melted off and makes your hands smell funny
-_-
Probably didn't use enough clear coat
But it's pretty gross now
At least no one will ever ask to borrow my controller / have any incentive to steal it

Scar · May 5, 2011

s2j said:
vs peach

i've concluded that her f-air is a death zone

but is there anything i can do after i block it

seems like i can't (before she jabs/d-smash)

but not sure

i suck vs peach i could never wrap my mind around the matchup

i was better vs here when i just ran around like a ****** than i was when i tried to think

Strong Badam · May 5, 2011

s2j said:
vs peach

i've concluded that her f-air is a death zone

but is there anything i can do after i block it

seems like i can't (before she jabs/d-smash)

but not sure

8 frames of shieldstun, 4 frames landing lag, +4 frame advantage. you can't really do anything in response, Dsmash comes out frame 5 and jab comes out frame 2. :/

harriettheguy · May 5, 2011

If you let her fair your shield then you've already "lost" and you gotta respect that (same with good ganons). A janky way out is shield grab to let her jab you, then mash double jump out of the jab.

Be careful of cornering yourself with dd camp against peach...the window of her wind-up is small, but it is there for you to hit her first. Insta-uairs ruin any kind of offensive float-fair. omg its s2j Preaching to choirrrrrrr

Who's peach is giving you trouble?

0Room · May 5, 2011

Scar said:
i suck vs peach i could never wrap my mind around the matchup

i was better vs here when i just ran around like a ****** than i was when i tried to think

Lol Scar, it's actually really really easy conceptually.

Since Peach has a guaranteed throw->knee [70-120%ish] it's literally DD and coax percent out of her until she gets to that, then position yourself to where a throw->knee would kill. Obviously you don't wanna dthrow->knee on the left side of 64 looking right.

uthrow->knee works around 40% if they don't DI

I mean it's really easy stuff
Nair trades will every one of her aerials except well spaced fair. [I believe, I need to test it]
So just DD nair/grab camp. Bair wall is super good too.

Don't forget wheel of fortune
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INgI5BEbjNk

Aussierob123 · May 5, 2011

I feel like dthrow knee only consistently hits around 90ish+ %, anything lower and i get naired out of the knee.

For the longest time I had trouble with peach but I think I've finally got the hang of the match up (relatively speaking, we're a lot worse in australia than you guys lol).

linkoninja · May 5, 2011

Peach and Samus have always been my worst matchups. I can never combo them :/I got better at the Doc matchup though
and everybody else is free
lol not really but I do fine against spacies

Smooth Criminal · May 5, 2011

Wait 'til you play some really good spacies, Linko.

You won't be saying that for long. Lol

Smooth Criminal

linkoninja · May 5, 2011

Smooth Criminal said:
Wait 'til you play some really good spacies, Linko.

You won't be saying that for long. Lol

Smooth Criminal

trust me I know
I'm only saying that cause me and all my friends are scrubs xD

Deleted member · May 5, 2011

harriettheguy said:
If you let her fair your shield then you've already "lost" and you gotta respect that (same with good ganons). A janky way out is shield grab to let her jab you, then mash double jump out of the jab.

Be careful of cornering yourself with dd camp against peach...the window of her wind-up is small, but it is there for you to hit her first. Insta-uairs ruin any kind of offensive float-fair. omg its s2j Preaching to choirrrrrrr

Who's peach is giving you trouble?

every peach that is good.. and there's no good peaches where i live to learn from

severe lack of good peach practice makes it one of my worst matchups overall

so my mistake i learned is that i try to punish f-airs on shield

and basically you can't

lol

==

also correct me if im wrong but falcon's nair isn't as broken as it is in other matchups, seems like peach can stuff it out easily with her own ghey high priority aerials

Mogwai · May 5, 2011

there's no basically, lol. you just can't. Strong Bad's frame data is correct, Peach's fair on shield is completely broken because of Float Canceling IMBAness.

Roneblaster · May 5, 2011

And all the peach players ***** non-stop about falcon.

Mogwai · May 5, 2011

well, if you ever watch Hax play the matchup, you should understand why. it just requires a different mindset than what most Falcons have in my experience.

thumbswayup · May 5, 2011

Wenbobular said:
I think it's because I play so much on it that the paint has kinda melted off and makes your hands smell funny
-_-
Probably didn't use enough clear coat
But it's pretty gross now
At least no one will ever ask to borrow my controller / have any incentive to steal it

Right, but do you have any of that stuff left, I'd like to use some lol

Wenbobular · May 5, 2011

I have a lot of blue leftover
Dunno about primer or clearcoat
Might have a dark green that I didn't use
Dunno about gold
My silver paint can just kinda exploded haha

thumbswayup · May 5, 2011

Dark green is all that matters

Citizen Snips · May 5, 2011

Roneblaster said:
And all the peach players ***** non-stop about falcon.

Yeah, not gonna lie, I mained Peach and *****ed about him. Now I main Falcon and ***** about Peach. It's a vicious cycle

0Room · May 6, 2011

Because it's a very even match up.
It's inevitable when one character doesn't pull far away from another.

Mokumo · May 6, 2011

creepin on kage's facebook

dude all your pictures are from smash tournaments it's awesome

linkoninja · May 6, 2011

What do you guys think about Falcon's tilts.
I noticed I never use them -_- not sure if this is terrible. I know his tilts aren't the greatest
but against characters that aren't space animals I don't see much use for them

bertbusdriver · May 6, 2011

they're quite situational, but they have their uses

diagonal down ftilt useful for edgeguarding certain recoveries
dtilt i rarely use. can't comment.
utilt edgeguarding spacies is a really safe option. SS used to do it pretty often.

TemPesT- · May 6, 2011

is ftilt can surprise ppl. i like to sometimes space a nair and then throw out the tilt if their like dash dancing in front of me.

if it hits they often miss the tech which is a free knee. and if it hits and they do tech, your falcon :D tech chase.

CaptainNanD0 · May 6, 2011

nair'ing over them to ftilt is pretty good

i use dtilt vs marth now like when he fairs just crouch dtilt for a knee if they have enough %

or when the marth is camping the ledge and you're at low % just stand there and crouch

anything they do can get dtilted to ****

Walt · May 6, 2011

Dtilt is extremely situational. you can use it to CC annoy sheik if they don't want to grab for some reason, it can go under marth sh fair/nair, it can combo fastfallers at mid percents into another dtilt/knee/grab sometimes. Is surprisingly not a terrible edgegaurd vs. falcon, it'll pop him up and you can hit with it like 2 or 3 times occationally.

Fitlt is best used as just a rare move because people rarely expect it, down-angled edgegaurds illusion and firefox to grabbing the edge pretty well. Up-angled and regular ftilt are good mix-ups at strange times like out of uthrow at 60ish on fastfallers just because people will always click L/R right as they get hit by it then like, never tech it. I'm not sure if it's that people can't tech it because of the 60(?) frame tech timer or if people are just like "wut ftilt" and hit the ground and get knee'd. I think up-angled goes through some of the lower platforms as well. And down-angled doesn't auto-crouch cancel like ganons does.

Utilt is also just another edgegaurd tool, I'll seen it in combos but it's really really rare.

Peach is hard, FC is some BS. All I do now is grab and lightshield dsmash into stomp/knee OoS. Nair is good if you hit them while they're floating but I don't think that should ever actually happen?

My work hasn't blocked smashboards or youtube. fools.

_Rocky_ · May 6, 2011

Divinokage · May 6, 2011

CaptainNanD0 said:
nair'ing over them to ftilt is pretty good

i use dtilt vs marth now like when he fairs just crouch dtilt for a knee if they have enough %

or when the marth is camping the ledge and you're at low % just stand there and crouch

anything they do can get dtilted to ****

Haha you are doing Ganon strats with Falcon? Well it def works. =)

CaptainNanD0 · May 6, 2011

hahaha kage

im becoming a warrior like you

Divinokage · May 6, 2011

The Falcon warrior could be pretty damn good in the warrior ranks. =P Officially, there are Gimpyfish, Eggz and Cactuar that I officially deemed warriors.

Walt · May 6, 2011

Haha, I think warrior is a good goal to aim for. Are there any goofy lower ranks like Squire or Cabin Boy?

Divinokage · May 6, 2011

Walt said:
Haha, I think warrior is a good goal to aim for. Are there any goofy lower ranks like Squire or Cabin Boy?

Haha that would be funny, but no I didn't really go that far for my own personal ranks. To me it would be either you are a warrior or you are not!

Walt · May 6, 2011

Kage you're going to Genesis right? I hella want to do Falcon v Ganon and Ganon ditto you. My Ganon is secretly super ballar.

Divinokage · May 6, 2011

Walt said:
Kage you're going to Genesis right? I hella want to do Falcon v Ganon and Ganon ditto you. My Ganon is secretly super ballar.

Indeed I am going to Genesis 2, let's do it! =D

Eggz · May 7, 2011

Divinokage said:
Haha that would be funny, but no I didn't really go that far for my own personal ranks. To me it would be either you are a warrior or you are not!

TRUER WORDS NEVER SPOKEN

<3 Kage

Palpi · May 7, 2011

Kage isn't a warrior.

:troll:

ETWIST51294 · May 8, 2011

<_<

Hellooooooooooooooooooo...

*echo*

Windrose · May 9, 2011

I got beaten to a pulp by Kage this weekend, lols...(in teams and singles pool >_>)

I kinda wish I had some chance to play friendlies =( I wasn't ready at all in pools T_T... (johnny McJohns, served with a side of Mcfrenchfry Johns)

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