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Then we have quite the conundrum, now don't we? If we win because we have fire, and you win because you are fire, then who wins? Clearly it must be the Roy boards because we have fire (which is also you). But if we have you, then we're just fighting you with you. And the extra strength of the Roy boards + kage > kage.
typically roy being better than marth means you have problems spacing marth's attacks. that was my problem for a long time. now my roy is better because i've played him far more than my marth and i'm able to think of roy options better.
In Soviet Russia, Ganon spaces you!
True, but once people know you're going to counter their recover, they can tweak their movements and timings to fake you out or avoid triggering your counter altogether
I agree to some extent to what you are saying, but usually when someone is recovering they lose a lot of mobility and certain characters like Fox and Falco do damage with their recovery so it is a whole lot easier to catch them with your counter, but if we are talking about Captain Falcon or Jigglypuff it would be a lot more difficult since Jiggly doesnt have a physical recovery and Capt. Falcon "hugs" you to death.
I am saying that it would be more difficult to use your counter against Jiggs because she is good at recovery. Besides she doesn't always need to use that in order to recover.
Jiggs should never be close enough with rising pound to be countered. Also if they are, why not just fsmash?
and its not tipped its like his shoulder or his hand when swooping if its around there i think it meteors
The move/part of the move that sends the furthest always has more hitstun as hitstun is directionally proportional to knockback.
saw him and lol no chance
also i have no recording equipment... but i could explain... i pwn w/ roy lol by using his dair more than most im sure
Yes his wave dash i s really useful at desperate un planned times but I would work on wavelands and dashdance and being able to fsmash during the dd. I like to wavedash backwards towards the edge dairing then lcanceling then edgehogging or ledge hop to dair meteor smash to ded meteor smash so its pretty legit but thats for flash you could just fsmash lolHey everybody! I'm new to competitive Melee, but I can already tell that I still enjoy playing Roy (despite his f-tier standing) as much as I did when I played the game for funsies. How should I begin seasoning myself for competitive play? Should I begin by training some of the ATs like his wave-dash among others? Sorry for the vague question, but it's nice to meet you guys!
It depends on who you are up against. When you are up against bowser I find the easiest DED to be >>^down. Bowser is one of the few characters where if you do that DED on correctly it will work more than half the time no problem. Since other characters are lighter they will have more of a knockback so it is far easier for them to get out of it. Just experience around and see what you can come up with, but you wont find many times where you can actually hit with all four attacks of your DEDs.
ganondorf ice climbers and ff at certain times kinda early then changes
I didn't really read the whole post, I just wanted to tell you your options for the edgeguard that I always use. Jab, counter, fsmash, dtilt.
love you magus. have my babies.Only that section can be touching them since all of the strong upwards sending hitboxes have priority over it. You'd space it to hit near the top of their head.
