Given the velocity this game is moving at, I'm probably gonna have to do separate posts for current goings-on and the ancient history stuff that catches my eye.
That's aight though, I brought my fedora!
Indiana Jones and the Wagon of Fun
Axel, you are at L-1, you should claim.
It's shiz like this that makes people think you're scum dude like seriously ugh -_-.[/quote]
P101. Gorf points to something scummily successful, and yet does nothing to advance it. Just like before, where he stood at the precipice of doing something, but had someone else tell him what to do.
Vibe: Wants to see what other people think before doing anything proactive, but also wants some objection of his own in the paper trail so he doesn't look like a parrot or a sheep.
Btw, anyone who hammers right now without letting axel defend himself or has a sound reason to do so i'm pretty much gonna say is scum.
Unless of course Axel himself ends up being scum, eh?
Axel, what would you say is the most likely reason for Gheb to be saying what he's saying about you?
Do you think it's a gambit or maybe a false read or what?[/quote]
P105. Jerkus asks a good pointed question, but then offers up possible answers. Why? It diminishes the potency of this particular question, as Axel may have contradicted an earlier answer to a similar question.
Vibe: First I was like
and then I was like
It's shiz like this that makes people think you're scum dude like seriously ugh -_-.
L-1 is L-1, do you see the wagon changing?
didn't think so.[/quote]
P106. I'm not even going to bother explaining this because I'm betting the following posts will do so.
Vibe: Doesn't answer to the gaping hole in his explanation of the claim request, and goes on to say that he doesn't see the wagon changing which is just what in the unholy mother of ****. Grimy.
Choice, how do I defend myself?
Also, what would be a valid/sound reason to lynch us already?
not my job to tell you how to defend yourself. i think in general asking other people to defend you or instructions on how to defend yourself isnt the right way. your lawyer aint here bud.
give us some reason to think you're town. one valid reason to lynch that i see coming up soon is that you're doing nothing to prove yourself as town.
your defense right now is "everyone else that's got their vote on me is scum!" but with nothing to support that other than the vote that they got on you.[/quote]
P109. I was really digging Choice's last big post, and this one... until he dropped the strawmannest strawman in strawtown. What the ****, bro. He'd specifically called Gheb town and Afro Gandhi town, and iirc he mentioned a few other wagon notables without screaming scum at them either.
Vibe: At first I thought he was motivating Axel to shape up and/or expose himself as even scummier, which I was down with. Now, with that one lil' snafu of logic, it looks more like he's starting to position for the kill.
The bolded is soooo scummy. I've even made that txtbook scum-slip before and know I see why it has been used against me. It just looks so scummy. Strawmanning the argument to just AtE is silly as well.
could you explain what about it looks scummy? also what is strawmanning?
i intended no AtE in that post. right now, i have circus pinned together with you as a scummate if you are scum. the vote simply seemed like an effort to get pressure off of you and get things moving in another direction. the other issue i have with it is that he made an assertion but showed no effort to pursue it anything past what he had already stated/observed. i'm not asking him to ask me questions so as to clear my name or whatever, but i would like to see some more effort on that case if he's gonna go with it.[/quote]
P153. Wow was that ever weak. He thinks Circus was just taking heat off of J? By voting for Choice for a post made about J? Someone give this guy a god damn medal, apparently he's finally discovered the one true transparent scumtell.
I did mention I don't like people who play out of a textbook, right?
There are many ways to get attention off of someone without trying to start a wagon on one of the people that are accusing them. Pretty much all of them are less strategically moronic and blatant.
Vibe: Dumb or scum. I was really thinking Choice was newbietown until this stretch of posts, but these are really awful.
@3rd para: you shouldn't lynch me because I'm town lmao. There's nothing else to say. The game hasn't even been open a full irl day yet :3
Now unvote me.
i'll unvote once theres someone looking like a better lynch candidate.[/quote]
P154. This post is only acceptable if he would still be completely fine with a J lynch, and his retreating post suggests otherwise.
Vibe: Dumb or scum but leaning harder to scum. I'm also positive at this point that J and Choice aren't on a scumteam. I've seen rabid SvS gambits take this form, but they were always later in the game, with a specific game, and executed by better players.
could you explain what about it looks scummy? also what is strawmanning?
i intended no AtE in that post. right now, i have circus pinned together with you as a scummate if you are scum. the vote simply seemed like an effort to get pressure off of you and get things moving in another direction. the other issue i have with it is that he made an assertion but showed no effort to pursue it anything past what he had already stated/observed. i'm not asking him to ask me questions so as to clear my name or whatever, but i would like to see some more effort on that case if he's gonna go with it.
You are asking if someone has any questions for you. What is the point of asking this besides try and seem helpful? Strawmanning is whittling down the arguement to a certain point and not focus on anything but one point but in a negative light.
Paragraph is just fluffed up OMGUS on Circus.
i'll unvote once theres someone looking like a better lynch candidate.
No offense, but oppurtunistic much? And you are openly admitting to not having a legitamate reason to vote us.
P155. To the first point, the point of it from a newbtown POV could be "this guy is voting me and I don't understand why maybe if he asks me some questions I could dissuade him." And J should know this. You don't blindly apply common things to every single relevant situation in mafia. Mafia is psychology, ffs, not math. J's certainly right about dat OMGUS though.
With the second paragraph, J gets at a scummy post for all the wrong reasons. People go for their backup lynches literally all the time, it doesn't mean they have no reasons for them.
This is astonishing. I've never seen two people argue and have them both look scummier as it goes on.
Vibe: See above.
Ran said:
Soup, read on Choice, Gord, and WL?
Axel, what are your reads on WashedLaundry and Gordito, since they are both on your wagon as well.
Gord: Clarify your scum read on Axel since you are voting him.
For me, it's like this: Axel, Gord, Choice.
P158. Second question was good but completely torpedoed by revealing the motivation behind asking the question. Why would you do that? Again, scumJ might have said something contradictory. He would at the very least glance back over the wagon's movement to make sure everything lines up better than it would have in an off the cuff post.
seriously.
Vibe:
Intermission!
Choice asked me a question.
@both EE and RR: when you arrive, what are your thoughts on the axel wagon?
which post do you dislike the most so far?
Both questions are and will be well-answered by this post I'm making, I think.
End Intermission.
...and then in that same post.
Choice said:
my read on axel is null/leaning scum. gheb did influence this read because of his vision posts and poetic madness. its honestly kinda annoying me now since he denied actually having any information, but at the same time he's already got this poetic ambiguity goin on. maybe he has to maintain it or something? i dunno. maybe its all just bs.
Why is his read being influenced by something that has been confirmed by the 'something's poster as relatively meaningless? That makes no sense whatsoever.
Gheb flat-out ****ing said he has NO SECRET INFORMATION, so all I can get out of this is a limp justification and maybe a side order of fishing.
Now that is wishy-washy
Vibe: Yet another post from Choice that starts aight and then plummets.
Intermission!
Choice said:
@everyone:hey actually, for those who have played with Gordito before, is him putting Axel at L-1 something he would do just for fun?
Yup. That's actually a big part of why I was bothered by the fact that he decided to stand at the edge of the pool, dabbing his toe in the water and wetting himself a little.
End Intermission.
I've had a surprisingly long stretch without stupid ****, so I'm going to cease the ANCIENT HISTORY segment of my glorious return here, post it, and finish catchin' up.
I HOPE YOU ENJOYED YOUR ADVENTURE THROUGH THE RAINFOREST OF DUMBANIA
