Denti
Smash Master
let me know what you think of this thread btw. critiquing would be nice..
I've been wondering what is best after down throw, up smash or fair? I researched it because I'm tired of guessing or doing whichever and I want to do what is "best".
Now as you can expect with Olimar this kind of stuff depends on whats in line and what pikmin you're down throwing with.
I don't have the data right now to show what to down throw with but I do have everything else.
(these are all fresh fyi)
Blue
fair - 13%
US - 15%
Red
fair - 15%
US - 15%
Yellow
fair - 12%
US - 14%
White
fair - 5%
US - 9%
Purple
fair - 14%
US - 13%
F smash - 18%
Yes purple F smash is a follow up. I was watching a video of brood and at low percents Olimar can down throw to purple F smash. Purple F smash stays really close and lobs upwards for some reason.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxIKEZblZJg Start watching at 5:42 for purple F smash hit bubble. This works at pretty low percents like 0-6%.
Another follow up is buffered grounded White side B. Instead of doing a fair or US try a grounded side B. The area where pikmin can latch onto an opponent is big and white pikmin are fast to throw. Opponents never try and attack Olimar after a down throw so this should be safe unless they catch on(so be careful).
Yellow up smash has hit stun. So if you have a Yellow next in line, try to up smash your opponent because you'll probably be able to follow up with an Uair.
DACUS! Dacus dacus dacus! This extends our combo percents after down throw by a noticeable amount, especially if you have a yellow next in line. Dacus extends Olimar's US range by 75%.
When thinking about what to follow up with next always consider the MU and where the opponent wants to be and where you guys are on the stage before doing what is best.
Don't forget.. Purple attacks have smaller range than the other pikmin, so be careful if you're trying to follow up with a purple. Also after down throwing with a purple you can never have a for sure follow up.
So there ya go... enjoy
I've been wondering what is best after down throw, up smash or fair? I researched it because I'm tired of guessing or doing whichever and I want to do what is "best".
Now as you can expect with Olimar this kind of stuff depends on whats in line and what pikmin you're down throwing with.
I don't have the data right now to show what to down throw with but I do have everything else.
(these are all fresh fyi)
Blue
fair - 13%
US - 15%
Red
fair - 15%
US - 15%
Yellow
fair - 12%
US - 14%
White
fair - 5%
US - 9%
Purple
fair - 14%
US - 13%
F smash - 18%
Yes purple F smash is a follow up. I was watching a video of brood and at low percents Olimar can down throw to purple F smash. Purple F smash stays really close and lobs upwards for some reason.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxIKEZblZJg Start watching at 5:42 for purple F smash hit bubble. This works at pretty low percents like 0-6%.
Another follow up is buffered grounded White side B. Instead of doing a fair or US try a grounded side B. The area where pikmin can latch onto an opponent is big and white pikmin are fast to throw. Opponents never try and attack Olimar after a down throw so this should be safe unless they catch on(so be careful).
Yellow up smash has hit stun. So if you have a Yellow next in line, try to up smash your opponent because you'll probably be able to follow up with an Uair.
DACUS! Dacus dacus dacus! This extends our combo percents after down throw by a noticeable amount, especially if you have a yellow next in line. Dacus extends Olimar's US range by 75%.
When thinking about what to follow up with next always consider the MU and where the opponent wants to be and where you guys are on the stage before doing what is best.
Don't forget.. Purple attacks have smaller range than the other pikmin, so be careful if you're trying to follow up with a purple. Also after down throwing with a purple you can never have a for sure follow up.
So there ya go... enjoy
