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Wrong thread.There is no ****ing deadline. If you shoot without a claim, you're dumb or scum.
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Wrong thread.There is no ****ing deadline. If you shoot without a claim, you're dumb or scum.
You play like a robot. I feel this is necessary to bring up.SK -- Openly declares a sheep vote on T-Block. Wrongly declares T-Block's vote of Nich as OMGUS. "wow interesting events"; just pings my gut and I did seem to get another gut view of SK over the TB-Nich as a sort of "scum glee" if you will, but just gut. Severe backpedaling and case reaching on T-Block; very populist. Then we have post #283 which was basically slapped together; I see no reason to assign a blanket town read to KK (even though my gut says town), so I assume this is a gut read. Says Nich is newb-town; this is an easy read to make but I would REALLY like to see the town reasoning on this because newb is not a faction. T-Block is not scum but needs more content, OK. Ran town for shallow questionnig that he follows up on OK, we agree. Swiss is town; no reasoning, just Swiss is town? From what? Grey is town for proactive; this is a meta read that I am unfamiliar with but w/e. I am scum for shallow questions (not shallow) while catching up; bzzzzt. July null for not enough content?? and Swiss gets a town read?? This analysis post is NOT genuine. PLSD null for no content (obvious). Based on the play this slot has exhibited: Scum
It amuses me that you think I'm being anything other than bluntly honest.lol swiss
get over yourself
You know he's not in a hydra, don't play dumb. Why are you playing dumb? You're not dumb. Must be scum.Ok this game is ridiculous. Up to page 21 and stopping because I gotta be at uni early tomorrow . Few things:
Still don't understand how or why Nich is scum. Nabe is referencing "slips" but not that much else. Weak weak weak.
Didn't care for Zen's hydra log(s?). He's in a hydra? News to me.
Still don't understand how Nabe is so obvtown to people. Would lynch him. I do agree with my other half that Nich's ISO on him is slightly reaching however. I could do an ISO on just about anyone and paint them as scummy. Irregardless, I don't like Nabe's reactive question asking style play.
Oh wait Zen was making a joke... wow o.o
I like SKat's 693.
Reyth I've seen you bring up this point about 100000 different times now (slight exaggeration). Explain how the heck this is in any way relevant to their alignment.
Nothing else really jumps out at me.
I'm on page 24.Are you caught up, Swiss?
Oh, and happy B-day, J/vand(one of you)
Bad reads = scummy?Ran's reads are so off all of a sudden. He is being downgraded to Good from Town. Maybe when one of his "scum" flips pop town he will re-adjust but I'm starting to get the feeling that there is something wrong with him (alignment wise).
More? What did you to just then?Looks like it'll just be me until around Thursday or so. X1 got WASTED apparently and is now going somewhere that might not have wifi until Thursday ;_;
will do more later today
This whole post is off, and I'm not just talking about Ran being good.Ya I've played and spoken with Ranmaru. He is a clever player. I don't think it will be easy to read him. I will go with Grey's philosophy: Read the clever player by examining his personal reads and his votes.
Basically, his .jpg case is contrived and weak. I mean 'cmon, .jpg was opportunistic in reference to July?? Who buys that?? Sounds like a convenient way to explain his vote and that is then proven by how that read has blossomoed into the be all and end all for his game reads.
Secondly, his push on me for crappy reasoning regarding Grey; it stinks. It looks to me like he is looking for an excuse to sling mud at me.
That is just off the top of my head. When I take a magnifying glass to his posts I will find a few other things as well.
I really want to lynch you.Just finished reading up the latest 4-5 pages. (seriously why Ran/Reyth?) I'd like to comment on the situation. Ran vs. Reyth is silly and in this argument I actually am going to agree and side with Ranmaru in this case.
I've been contemplating my dislike for Reyth for a while now and it's mainly because I feel his reads feel completely shallow. He is voting Ranmaru atm, for what it seems, because Ran doesn't agree with Reyth's personal reads. He also when asked to explain said reads, they are weak as hell.
Overall though, I have to agree with the other side on this, he says some weird things but I don't see the scummy intent behind it. More or less I just find myself asking "How in the world.....why in the....what?" with a lot of Reyth's posts.
Especially WTF at the Nabe/Reyth/VG.jpg/TB voting block. Da hell is that?
I skipped this, what happened?I do know how to read DeGray, especially with how scummy he has been. I also do agree with Ranmaru that it isn't scum-hunting and is anti-town because he is just going with Swiss to go with Swiss.
I do agree with you though, the point you are trying to present is shallow.
I'm impressed anyone can get called arrogant when I'm in the game. Relatively, that's normally like calling a light bulb bright when placed next to a supernova.I didn't even say "Oh wow scummie!" to that. I said it was anti-town.
.....I really think you have a reading problem. >.>
And an over-arrogance problem too. <.<
I see a lot of words from you, and words that make logical sense, but no spark, no real effort, pressure, awkward questioning or effort.But doesn't this series of events look to you like it could be a logical progression of thought? First one he says no vote, second one he throws out an offer re: KK, third one he admits he's done waiting. It seems to me that you're coming at this with the impression that Ryker is scummy, and seeing his actions under that light, when in reality it's null.
What's actually bothersome in conjunction is that he hasn't posted since, which some people have talked about, which does potentially point to "active lurking". But then again, didn't he also called V/LA? Which would make all of this null. If he avoids the thread from here-on or posts without content then I'd support a lynch, having seen inactive Rykerscum in KSSU.
Soup is town, JPG might be scum, move Nabe down and Nich up.Scum: KK, Ran, Zen, PLSD
Not Good: SK, Nich
Good: July
Town: T-Block, .JPG, Swiss, Nabe, Grey
Reeks if you don't follow this up.T-Block, that sounds like a mild insult to Grey there...
Does everyone else see him in white apart from Reyth? Answers plz.Ran, please stop posting in black.
Your only content is wrt your alignment and his read on you?You're right, but why so confident?
You're wrong, but why so confident?
And unless I'm mistaken from skimming more recent posts, did your read on me change?
I'm "reading" the stuff from page 24 to present. Gonna make it fast because apparently you guys *coughreythrancough* don't know the meaning of restraint.
Ran, half your posts say the same things. "What is your read on x, y, z? Do *insert request here* ASAP" etc. etc.
You're so demanding o_o
Detracts from your responsibility to infer your own reads - you're not scum with Reyth.Reyth, I'm on page 27 of 31. What should I be looking for in the next few pages?
Because it's Ryker.Yeah apparently he claimed or something.
Trying to fathom why a hydra with Ryker would be the first to claim on D1.
GRIMYHehehe. Zen Zen Zen you are so fun to watch orchestrate thingies.
Ya suuuure ya done duder?
Sweet Jesus thank you.Also Kawaii is scum for sure.
Took you long enough man. Gawd. Catchup. Now lets hold hands and dance around the camp fire.Ran, shut the **** up. There's no reason for your reaction.
Why the hell would you claim flavor so ****ing easily after what I JUST warned everyone about.
Vote KK
+ 1Ran, if you use that ability on .JPG and Nabe, you're ****ing ********.
What are you getting at, Zen?
God, this looks so ****ing staged.
But OS requires town PR's to co-ordinate. This is EXACTLY what this does. OS doesn't let one slot carry, he makes you co-ordinate or pay the price. Duh.You're limiting it to two people and one of them is a town read and one of them is a last resort read. I have to be on the lynch and I can't advocate No Lynch.
Why in the hell would you think limiting the flow of information at this stage in the game is a good thing? You limit the discussion to who is scummier out of TWO players. If you **** up and it's TvT, then you really open the door for players to be mislynched for leading a lynch against a townie when they had no option BUT to lynch a townie.
If you really wanted to get lynched, you'd have said how many more votes you needed, not how many you were on.I think I have 4 votes on me so u know.
Dislike how you stay out until Zen makes it clear what he means, and you can safely agree.Anyways I really should be heading to bed, it's 5 am.....
I like what you are doing Zen however.
Unvote
Do you have anything I need to adresse now or can I wait after I sleep for like....ever...heh.
I was wrong, I skipped it.STOP POSTING.
Jesus.
I'm now 13 pages behind.
I know, I just know I am going to read up and facepalm at the dumb **** wasting space.
Detracting from KK scum case, whilst passively defending him by calling Ran scum and making an excuse as to why you can't justify the read.vote: Ranmaru
he's a detriment
afk work
Huh. Clearly not buddies.This is baaaaaaaad. Why couldn't they both be scum?
Legit content.Re-reading the whole interaction, it's shocking how quickly Ran claimed. Feels like a safe claim in that aspect. It's like...
Zen votes Ran
Ran votes Zen back
Ran asks why Zen didn't pressure him
Zen says he'll find enough when he reads
Ran claims
He doesn't ask town opinion as to whether he should claim, etc. Just jumps the gun and outs it.
I dislike this call for a claim from Zen as well. No support shown for a Zen wagon because of this, but he's calling for a claim...
So vague, 'content' without stances. You don't weigh in yourself, just make references to other people.Ranmaru confirmed he did act differently but it seems Kat thinks differently. o_O
I'm gonna bring up a few posts I don't like in juuuuust a sec. I really don't like the last line of this because I don't ever really base scum-reads on people having extremely different PoVs. Look at Reyth.
And there was me thinking I'd been forgotten.@Swiss
I really hope you post soon. Just do your analysis piece by piece so we know you're working at it.
Who are you referring to? Ran?Scatter brained and impulsive. Tbh, I could probably easily sway him if I needed the vote bad enough. I think Swiss could as well. I dunno if PLSD could anymore after ruining their credibility with inactivity.
Inside you head.And you are right that Swiss is a town read as well. Btw where the heck is Swiss??
Never said I was scared of it. Don't take things out of context.Never seen a townie scared of a voting block JFYI.
Near the beginning.Swiss said:I skipped this, what happened?
I did get involved and I never said his reaction was scummy. I said his reaction was horrible. Again, you are taking things out of context.Swiss said:Why doesn't KK get involved?
How was his reaction scummy wtf? Wtf is this. Kill KK.
How?Swiss said:GRIMY
No I didn't?Swiss said:Dislike how you stay out until Zen makes it clear what he means, and you can safely agree.
KK - Swiss = lolSwiss doesn't equal a read. Take a stance, make it town.
No?Swiss said:KK suddenly needs a re-read after more people call him scum? Surprise surprise.
I don't even get what you are getting at atm.Swiss said:So vague, 'content' without stances. You don't weigh in yourself, just make references to other people.
Gah your reads are so good though sans one or two. ;_; They are almost exactly like mine.Swis said:Scum: KK, JPG
Town: Swiss, Grey, Reyth, SK, Nich, Ran, Zen
That's completely true. It's also what we do as town if it looks like it'll work. It's also what we do when we feel a claim is beneficial. It's also what we do when we feel a claim is beneficial, but we can pass it off as a gambit.Did I skip past Grey's claim? What did he claim again? Claiming is a gambit. Gambits are what us two do as scum by way of not having fun otherwise. Respond to this, Ryker.
Null on Zen and SK. Town on TBlock and someone I'm forgetting.Scum: KK, JPG
Town: Swiss, Grey, Reyth, SK, Nich, Ran, Zen
goddammit!that's completely true. It's also what we do as town if it looks like it'll work. It's also what we do when we feel a claim is beneficial. It's also what we do when we feel a claim is beneficial, but we can pass it off as a gambit.
In other words, it's there. Period.
Null on zen and sk. Town on tblock and someone i'm forgetting.
As always. DeGrey is not. You can see me online when I want you to see me online.Ryker are you on invis?
town tellBull****.
Doublevote: Zen
DIE MOTHER ****ER DIE.
town tellNope. I have none. Is tblock your buddy?
town tellYOU TELL ME. HOW WOULD I KNOW?
Here is my thoughts on why you would do this:
1. You haven't done ****. I'm right about JPG, so it would be best to fake claim a guilty on me to save a bud.
town tellAND DON'T EVEN THINK OF TRYING TO CLAIM INSANITY. Oh boy.
Saving before a wagon would build on him.
But if not it's obv for saving A buddy who is under the hot seat. So, tell me your thoughts on people with wagons. I WANT THOUGHTS ON EACH PERSON.
I WANT YOUR READS NOW.
I WANT WHY YOU COPPED ME.
WHEN DID U COP ME.
I didn't attack it at all though. I questioned that there was one but it seems there isn't at all.@KK: I don't like how you attacked out town voting bloack either.
His reads are exactly like mine besides Myself and SK. Yet you call me out majorly on how my reads don't match yours and it's scummy for that. But when Swiss has it, you call it fine.Reyth said:On Swiss, I don't like how he has .jpg as scum but otherwise his reads appear just fine. He certainly agrees with me on you.
What are you talking about?Gimme a break, KK. He doesn't have me as scum and doesn't have July up on some pedestal like you have. Don't know if you're reaching or desperate or what.
I said his reads are good atm to the ones he has shown and they are extremely close to them. On my town-flip, he wants to look into you and that's good enough as a leaning scum because that's what's going to happen. July idk his read on her atm but seems up in the air since he even said he isn't reading most of her posts.His reads are not exactly like yours.
Have you even read any of the debates between Reyth/Me, honest question? July I agree with alot of with what she has to say and I see the town intent behind what she is bringing. What I don't like is the fact how everyone says they dislike her, but can't show my why. In fact, a lot of people this game have that problem with their scum-reads and it's annoying.T-Block said:Can you show me where Reyth said you were scummy for not having reads lining up with his? Also, can you give reasons for having July town?
Considering his only scumpick besides you is me, does that mean I'm pretty much your main scumpick? I forgot.Gah your reads are so good though sans one or two. ;_; They are almost exactly like mine.
......*sigh*If it was in 900-1200, I skimmed it. If not, I probably read it but can't remember >_>
IDK what you are Asdioh nor do I ever know. ATM I'm leaning scum but I need to crank a re-read of this game soon that isn't an isolated ISO of TB.Considering his only scumpick besides you is me, does that mean I'm pretty much your main scumpick? I forgot.
Meh, don't worry about it. Unfair of me to ask you to go through that lol... I'll look for it later.......*sigh*
I would really like it if you read it but I'll go drag it up when I'm not chilling with friends.
And if KK is scum, do you think July is his buddy?Swiss, why is KK scum? I read your post but I don't see the reasoning. Not knowing Zen wasn't in a hydra = dumb but he's not dumb so = scum? Seriously? That hydra log confused me as well.
Like, the rest of your post that says "KK scum" I can't definitively agree with.
98.7 to the 5th power% sure.DeGrey scum? How sure are you?
More about why on Ran.
Why is DeGrey scum? I already said I believe his claim, though at the same time I can see him being the indy he mentioned faking info.98.7 to the 5th power% sure.
The paragraph below 7 in my post goes into the why.