Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 ('Terminal' - the 17th for Elite / 18th for non-Elite)

O D I N · Mar 14, 2012

I FORGOT ABOUT THIS GAME!!!!!!

Huh... Maybe I should play it again soon...

Nope. Not yet.

SnackAttack · Mar 14, 2012

Hot_ArmS said:
Maybe you just suck at this game

I'm the only one that sucks around here.

SnackAttack · Mar 14, 2012

I got my disk back today. Get on @ 9 PM EST?

Hot_ArmS · Mar 14, 2012

ill be on fsure

Zatchiel · Mar 14, 2012

Might not be on until Friday, unfortunately, grades get submitted this week. Studying for tests and whatnot. :applejack:

Hot_ArmS · Mar 15, 2012

Lol I fell asleeP

TheSaudiMizer · Mar 15, 2012

I'm about to go wreck with the Model real quick.

And by wreck I mean probably go negative until I get damage proficiency.

Wretched · Mar 15, 2012

If you go look at videos of people playing around with damage proficiency, it does nothing on the SPAS and Model.

Range.

TheSaudiMizer · Mar 15, 2012

Nothing? I get a lot of hit markers that I feel should be 1-hit, I was hoping damage was going to fix that for me. I get range first anyway so we'll see.

Wretched · Mar 15, 2012

Well, to be fair, most of the videos didn't take into account that everyone doesn't hit with the full spread, so it may decrease the pellets needed to kill, but after a certain range, it becomes obsolete. If you hit with the full spread at anything even kinda far, it won't kill.
Range is awesome on the model, and honestly if I were to ever come back to this game, it would be because I wanted to play hardcore with the Model.

TheSaudiMizer · Mar 15, 2012

Well I'll take either of them at this point because some of the hit markers I get make me pretty sad

I was doing pretty well with it though, it's obviously not as good as the striker but I get more satisfaction out of my kills.

SwampertTheGreat · Mar 16, 2012

Wretched you're wrong. No matter what stats say or videos show damage is superior. Anyone who uses shotguns a lot can tell you that(except dur aa-12).
Speaking of which with xbox and ps3 combined I have a total of 4000 kills with the spas/model x_x

Wretched · Mar 16, 2012

"No matter what the facts say you're wrong," oh I had no idea. It isn't like I tested them myself and played with damage and range for about half of the time I played the game.

Zatchiel · Mar 16, 2012

I've heard players strongly advise damage on the Model/SPAS. Greatens the chance for the OHK, which the lever action and pump actions are in definite need of, as much as they can get. :applejack:

Range is what I personally prefer on the Model, however, I don't play as safe with it as I do with the SPAS.

Wretched · Mar 16, 2012

The only way that damage is better is if you always hipfire or you don't hit with the full spread.
I use Quickdraw and Steady Aim so that I can aim, and I try to hit with the full spread, therefore the damage proficiency is only useful if you aren't trying to be accurate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Q-X-xBuskLg#t=105s

TheSaudiMizer · Mar 16, 2012

Well that video assumes perfect aim. It doesn't even count for normal shotgun range, even though you will likely get a lot of hitmarkers within that range because you can't always aim dead on, in which case damage is going to be more helpful.

Wretched · Mar 16, 2012

Wretched said:
Well, to be fair, most of the videos didn't take into account that everyone doesn't hit with the full spread, so it may decrease the pellets needed to kill, but after a certain range, it becomes obsolete. If you hit with the full spread at anything even kinda far, it won't kill.

I took that into account, as you can see, and the ability to kill from far away is, in my opinion, much more valuable than the ability to kill someone more consistently up close.
If they're close enough for you to need damage to kill because it is harder to hit with the full spread, then you should be knifing. If they're at mid range, range is better. Range gives you so many more options, too. With damage, really you have to limit yourself to the most confined spaces and flanks. With range, it is really easy to find a route where you won't be at as much of a disadvantage because you can guarantee more midrange kills.

But to each their own.

Zatchiel · Mar 16, 2012

I'll use range for a bit, did some research yesterday that I have yet to implement. :applejack:

TheSaudiMizer · Mar 16, 2012

I'm closing to unlocking damage so I'll make a judgement whenever I get it. The range has definitely been nice, but I almost always run into people in normal 1-hit 2-hit range (no proficiency) and it hasn't really felt like it has made too much of a difference, other than getting some long-range 2 hits. But at around that range I do much better pulling out my skorpions. Like I said my opinion might change once I start using damage but I'm thinking I'll probably like it more.

SwampertTheGreat · Mar 16, 2012

Wretched said:
I took that into account, as you can see, and the ability to kill from far away is, in my opinion, much more valuable than the ability to kill someone more consistently up close.
If they're close enough for you to need damage to kill because it is harder to hit with the full spread, then you should be knifing. If they're at mid range, range is better. Range gives you so many more options, too. With damage, really you have to limit yourself to the most confined spaces and flanks. With range, it is really easy to find a route where you won't be at as much of a disadvantage because you can guarantee more midrange kills.

But to each their own.

I personally don't see a point in getting hitmarkers from a longer distance. Range is better in a perfect world where everyone stands still and you have perfect aim 24/7. Sadly it's never like that. Also you can always find ways to get in close with a shotgun

Wretched · Mar 16, 2012

I actually do have pretty consistent aim and usually people do slow down when they were aiming and shooting, so being able to get one shots at mid range is pretty cool for me.

TheSaudiMizer · Mar 16, 2012

I have pretty good aim too, just the window at medium ranges between 1 hit and 2 hit kills is pretty small. Anyway I'm sure I'll miss the range it has when I switch to damage, but if I can get 1 hit kills more often I'll stick with damage.

Also funny today I played a Kill Confirmed game on Resistance, in which my 5 teammates were in a party and decided to riot shield the middle building. The rage that ensued was hilarious.

Matt07 · Mar 17, 2012

LMG's got a major patch. They increased the mininum damage they do, so all LMG's now kill at 3 bullets at all ranges. O_o.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZEpe1pLTLQ&feature=g-all-u&context=G2ce5ea2FAAAAAAAAAAA

Zatchiel · Mar 17, 2012

Well, here they come. :applejack:

SwampertTheGreat · Mar 17, 2012

Good. LMGS should stay that way. Glad to see they did something right

Matt07 · Mar 17, 2012

SwampertTheGreat said:
Good. LMGS should stay that way. Glad to see they did something right

Me too, glad they got patched.

Thino · Mar 17, 2012

did they get patched on PS3 yet?

NOVA1106 · Mar 17, 2012

oooo yes lmgs here i come

Matt07 · Mar 17, 2012

Thino said:
did they get patched on PS3 yet?

I don't think so, I believe we're going to receive the patch before we get the DLC drop.

Grandeza · Mar 17, 2012

So I realize I don't play with SWF too much so this won't affect many of you, but my house apparently has bed bugs. We're getting the house bed bug free soon, but the exterminator told use that most of our stuff needs to sealed in plastic bags so any possible bed bug dies. He said that one of the things sealed needs to be my xbox so for the next month I won't be on at all. It doesn't really make sense to me that the tv and computer don't need to be sealed off but apparently the xbox does. And he's the expert so I'll listen. So yeah no xbox for a month. =\ I'm gonna be pretty rusty when I come back but I guess I should just look at it as a break from the stresses of CoD.

Delta-cod · Mar 18, 2012

Have they patched the PP90 yet?

Hot_ArmS · Mar 18, 2012

Don't worry grandeza there hasn't been a team swf in like 2 months

SnackAttack · Mar 18, 2012

Hot_ArmS said:
Don't worry grandeza there hasn't been a team swf in like 2 months

It's because BADger deserted us.

smash brawl player 99021 · Mar 18, 2012

Hot_ArmS said:
Don't worry grandeza there hasn't been a team swf in like 2 months

I'd like to say this is because of my absence, but I'm not sure.

SnackAttack · Mar 18, 2012

Connordger said:
I'd like to say this is because of my absence, but I'm not sure.

You horrible, horrible man.

O D I N · Mar 18, 2012

Oh gee, thanks guys.

SwampertTheGreat · Mar 18, 2012

This game is pretty god awful but I don't see why everyone has completely given up on it. It's still cod and it can still be fun. It's also nowhere near as bad as mw2 was in it's prime and everyone stuck with that game

SnackAttack · Mar 18, 2012

SwampertTheGreat said:
This game is pretty god awful but I don't see why everyone has completely given up on it. It's still cod and it can still be fun. It's also nowhere near as bad as mw2 was in it's prime and everyone stuck with that game

Quoted for truth.

Delta-cod · Mar 18, 2012

Except MW2 was never that bad. Tubes were stupid, yes, but at least people still had to, you know, aim to kill me.

And now MW2 is much better than MW3 so I have no reason to play an inferior copy of a previous game.

SnackAttack · Mar 18, 2012

The only things MW2 had going for it were a good netcode and decent gun balance.

The only real problem was the UMP. Every AR except for maybe the F2000 was usable.

UMP was godlike, but the MP5K, Vector, and all the others were usable.

Shotgun secondaries were bull****.

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