Because what would he gain from doing so? He's drawing tons of attention to himself, received several votes and gained nothing, how is this all not obvious? What do you suggest a scum Zen's motive for doing it could be? Or do you actually think he's scum who wanted some more influence over town by trying to form an alliance? Because that [non]-power over DH and Kant was totally worth all the attention he got that he otherwise wouldn't have received. How have you not got this yet.
You act like all these "bad" things that have come from putting himself out there in the limelight so early have permanently damaged his chances of winning if he's scum. It's funny that you claim you actually believe all that, when your very disposition toward him tells a completely different story. If all this attention he's getting is so damning, and all these "votes" he's gotten (btw, he has one and its FROM ME), are [is] equally damning, then why exactly is it that you're so convinced he's town? It seems to me that if people like you are going to react to him putting himself out there by saying "lol wow that's way to ballsy for him to do as scum he must be town cuz hes ******** otherwise" then he'd probably one ****ing happy camper as scum. How do
you not get
that yet?
You act like I'm the one who's being ******** when in reality you and anyone sharing your stance are LITERALLY just giving him a free pass for being vocal in a dumb way. Like
what?
Your 'more nuanced explanation' doesn't actually achieve anything but it makes it look like you've posted something useful. This is what I mean, its non-content
Yep, because if you
say that it achieves nothing, it obviously achieves nothing. I just explained to you why explaining the deeper layers of his behavior is beneficial information to have, and you respond by saying "lol non-content it does nothing".
You can't just ****ing say something is non-content, or that it "does" nothing, and then strut around acting like its true. Until you can actually substantiate the claim that my analysis of OS's early game play
actually serves NO purpose, you can kindly continue to **** off.
Kantrip said you were just pulling the OMGUS card on him, or rather you were just immediately called his attack on you OMGUS because you attacked him first. When he says you're just discrediting him he means you calling OMGUS without actually responding to his points.
How the **** could I be the one pulling OMGUS on him? HE ****ING SAID OMGUS FIRST! I never accused him of OMGUS until I thought he was trying to spin it on me because of the way he worded his response to my rebuttal of his awful response to my initial attack and vote on him.
Seriously,
read the ****ing exchange. He beings up OMGUS first in this post:
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=14279420&postcount=357
And that post was a direct response to my post here:
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=14278836&postcount=346
I attacked him. He responded. Post 346 is my rebuttal of his response to me. Where exactly did I
ever ****ing bring up OMGUS? Again, my only mention of OMGUS is in the post AFTER he mentions it, because like I said, I thought he was trying to make ME out to be OMGUSing him. Not my fault he had god awful word choice.
@FF: "We cannot take Kantrip's post asking inactives to claim PRs as a scumtell or a towntell but only as a dumb tell, as really neither fraction would actually ever do that."
Tell me why that logic is wrong if you would.
It's wrong for a lot of reasons. One, there's no provided warrant for why no player from any faction would ever ask inactives to mass claim. That's just a baseless assumption. Two, just because a player's likelihood to suggest a piss poor plan of action isn't influenced heavily by their alignment, doesn't mean that for any given particular player you can't look at exceptionally dumb suggestions and analyze whether or not THAT PLAYER SPECIFICALLY would have their disposition toward that idea influence by their alignment. Thirdly, suggesting dumb plans and/or agreeing with them with little or no reasoning, though dumb yes, is also quite scummy. Dumb and scum are NOT mutually exclusive, and more often that not, player's that suggest things that are dumb enough to be harmful to the town are actually scum not thinking things through from a town perspective. Not everyone is a master at hiding pro-scum behavior within public suggestions for the town. No one is too smart to never **** up.
@ Pink Lemonade:
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=14279709&postcount=369
Ok cool, so you played as scum with Zen. Big whoop. I've played as scum with tons of people on this site. Without a compelling reason or example
from that game you played in as his partner that shows me that he his being directly reflective of that past scum behavior, I don't really see where the meat of this alleged "meta" read is. You can't just say "I was scum with this guy once, and so I can see when he's scum, and he's scum now". You need to bring some actual substance to that allegation and show me how what you learned in that game either directly applies here, or how there is some sort of clear parallel going on.
In other news....
OS voting KevinM for being KevinM made me chuckle.
I really don't get all the Rockin hype. Not sure where all the fuel on that wagon is coming from.
Why won't more people vote Kantrip? We can't keep X1 a liar forever now can we?
. Immediate posture of trying to act like helpful, but the questions he made are incredibly non-leading-to-anywhere. Also, before D1 even started, he barely / didn't get involved in the TA discussion, but as soon as the game officialy began, he made a lot of questions focused on that issue; is like he saved those questions to show a strong D1's start.
