Marshmellowman
Macman|marshy
dancer who are todays best plays?
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Skies of Arcadia Mafia - Game Over! Indy (AM) Wins!
- Thread starter Raziek
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1.) @Orb wagon. Reeks of distancing to me.
2.) Where *has* he commited himself?
What should I make out of this post? I make nothing out of it because I don't see any relevant content in it other than a whack stance on Gorf that I don't agree with.
I don't see what's so special about this post for you to like it.
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Smash Cadet
Honestly like this. Seems kind of a weird move for scum to make.
Um, okay.
Rockin, I'm honestly confused here. Why are you voting us? Why did you FoS Soup earlier? Why did you state suspicion against the ORboknown wagon but not do anything about it? Like, I honestly don't even remember you saying anything about my slot.
If you don't like JTB, then what do you intend to do about him, and why haven't you've done it.
More or less the same question towards Rockin. Why areDidn't realize there was a question in that. Wanna pressure Orbo more unless Soup's shot was legit. LAK deserves pressure, Gorf deserves pressure and I wouldn't object to see some pressure on J as well.
Bad read IMO, something both sides of the hydra can agree on. *thumbs down*this
**** pressure. gorf should die
Soup, the reasoning that Xonar has you as scum, and that I'm reluctant to have you as town now (I gave Xonar the go ahead for pressure on you) is because of how you're holding onto this Orboknown read. Like, the thing is is that our reads usually actually line up, and the fact that you're seriously having a hard time grasping the concept that Orboknown can be newbie town bothers me. Trust me, I've seen Orbknown play before and I've thought he was scum for the EXACT same reasons you did (FFT mafia). However, he ended up just being a really bad townie who didn't really know where to look.
So, take my word on it?
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Smash Cadet
Let me finishes reading and then I'll get back to you.
1. Interesting. Why? IIRC, he said something along the lines of "consider me there in spirit," right?1.) @Orb wagon. Reeks of distancing to me.
2.) Where *has* he commited himself?
What should I make out of this post? I make nothing out of it because I don't see any relevant content in it other than a whack stance on Gorf that I don't agree with.
I don't see what's so special about this post for you to like it.
2.Well, okay. But I'm talking about like, hundreds of posts ago. I really wouldn't hold someone a standard of "committing themselves" if they really hadn't the chance to.
This should be: "What are you planning to actually do about these people that you want to pressure?"me said:
I wanted to see if you would
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Smash Cadet
Wanted to see if you might come up with the same reasoning as me.
His response to you was antagonistic. I like that. Shows that he's not afraid to get angty. What do you make of this Gheb?
Marshmellowman
Macman|marshy
>: (
i got a question tho
i hate hate HATE the soup waffling yall are pulling right now. the fact that the xonar side is pushing that lynch while you are on the fence when i know you (dancer) are MORE than capable of strong reads and a willingness to make a play is grimy. am i unreasonable for disliking that about you?
im also not crazy about this meta youre using with orbo but i can understand it and dont think its scummy by itself (tho scum definitely want orbo around regardless of his alignment). thing is...i could use a similar thought process and use of meta with rockin (mediation actually pointed this out earlier) so theres that
something that weirds me out about you is that you try to hate on me wagoning gorf (even tho its not a bad play you guys are just being whack) and say hes not a play today. thats fine. but...gorf has pretty much the same reads as soup (except soup doesnt believe j to be super protown) so from my point of view gorf and soup should be similar to you (you as in dancer. man i hate this hydra ****) so im at a loss as to how i can take you seriously when it comes to gorf being a terrible play yet soup is a decent one. soup himself even agreed with you guys that rockin was grimy so what is so terrible about him? whats the difference between gorf and soup?
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Smash Cadet
Hmmmm, might have to retract Rockin suspicion after posts 240-280. Seems very relaxed. Not uptight despite pressure. Will quote stuff if people want.
Rockin brings up a good point about JTB. I know that JTB tends to lurk despite alignment but regardless jump on Orboknown was very brash and opportunistic.
KevinM WHY did you join the Soup wagon? What did you find scummy about him?
If you honestly want half the playerlist dead, then please tell me who are they and why?
Gorf what do you make of Rockin's recent posts? If you still have him as scum than why are they not townie like I think they are?
Rockin brings up a good point about JTB. I know that JTB tends to lurk despite alignment but regardless jump on Orboknown was very brash and opportunistic.
KevinM WHY did you join the Soup wagon? What did you find scummy about him?
If you honestly want half the playerlist dead, then please tell me who are they and why?
Gorf what do you make of Rockin's recent posts? If you still have him as scum than why are they not townie like I think they are?
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Smash Cadet
I don't know what to tell you. Like Xonar is confident that Soup is scum but I honestly had him as town. He's been convincing me otherwise but I still have him as a town lean. Reads that we disagree on is kinda the burden of being in a hydra.
"Are you unreasonable for disliking that about me?" No, not at all. As scum I tend to play "safe" and if it comes off like I'm playing safe then I honestly wouldn't blame you. Hell, I even told Xonar on Skype that I felt like my scumdar wasn't working this game (since I hadn't picked up on any strong reads).
I've already read ahead and saw that Gorf wants both Rockin and Orboknown dead. Those are both reads that I disagree with now. However, take into the context of the time. I could honestly see why people would want to lynch Orboknown, I just think that it's a bad read. Rockin DID appear scummy at first, which is what Gorf has based his read off of.
I don't think there's much of a difference between Gorf and Soup. Either both are town and have been caught into a bad read or one (probably not both) is scum that feels like they need to hold onto a read for dear life for the sake of "consistency." I currently lean the former. Sorry but I'm not super confident about it. There's a lot of factors that have me confused. Why is Soup being so dumb about his Orboknown read? However, why is he sticking to it despite being in the face of opposition? He put himself in a bad position to defend a read he believes in. Why? He is really just "stuck" as scum?
Do you see what I'm getting at here?
What are your answers to these questions Marshy? Help me out here?
Gorf, on the other hand, just hasn't really done much, so I don't see why everyone is so confident he's scum. Also I saw his read list and besides from his scum reads I agree with them.
Marshy, how is it that you've came to be so confident in Gorf scum so early?
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Did he play exactly like this? I really hate giving people benefit of the doubt, I'm honestly just waiting on Orboknown to respond. I am open to other avenues but I don't see it yet, I really want to focus on this, this is not about tunneling or anything I just feel if I let it slide then it can easily be pushed under the rug.Legolas said:
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Requoting this. we can't go anywhere like this, I have a ton of questions waiting to be answered and people are just idly ignoring them *cough* J *cough*.
I appreciate Legolas actually responding, however.
Marshmellowman
Macman|marshy
gorf, what do you think about the people on your wagon?
#HBC | Nabe
Beneath it all, he had H-cups all along
My guesses before reading:
- AM is smart but hasn't posted much
- Marshy is wagoning someone
- Lego is aggravating
- Soup and JTB posts are interchangeable
- Rockin looks scummy but is just bad
- KevM looks scummy, and is
- Gheb looks town, and isn't
- J is posting pictures and asking questions
- Gorf rubs me the wrong way
- who the hell is Orboknown
- AM is smart but hasn't posted much
- Marshy is wagoning someone
- Lego is aggravating
- Soup and JTB posts are interchangeable
- Rockin looks scummy but is just bad
- KevM looks scummy, and is
- Gheb looks town, and isn't
- J is posting pictures and asking questions
- Gorf rubs me the wrong way
- who the hell is Orboknown
Lovably Adorable Kanine
Red Ryu|John2k4
Your list is lacking someone, Nabe.
#HBC | Nabe
Beneath it all, he had H-cups all along
Oh.
Hey.
Hey.
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Red Ryu|John2k4
A penny for your thoughts on us, Nabe?
#HBC | Nabe
Beneath it all, he had H-cups all along
Does a John/Ryu slot really need me to make a disparaging comment about it?
@1st
Well isn't that almost like the definition of non-commitment? Pushing a wagon that you're not even a part of? I don't even know how much more blatant it could possibly get. Votes /Votecounts are the papertrails to look back onto in this labyrinth of posts and if he says he's 'on the wagon in spirit' he's not only not commiting himself accordingly, he actually refuses to commit accordingly.
@2nd
Do you feel that - if we assumed you agree with my point now - he improved by now then? In my opinion, he's not shown any kind of commitment to his actions and posts then and he hasn't shown to do so now.
@3rd
Don't know what you mean. I'm going to push lynches on them, like I've done all game.
I make nothing of it. Just like I made nothing of his early attack against you. It's not a town-tell, which you seem to imply.
Marshmellowman
Macman|marshy
@ghebs first point in 378...gorf saying "consider me on that wagon on spirit" seems to make himself MORE accountable since his vote was on the other wagon no?
nabe you forgot the most important observation of all in this game: you replaced noobscum
i dunno what to tell you dancer. its like you are on a mission to cockblock the **** out of every wagon in this game. if youve got something better then im listening. ill take a closer look at your questions soon
disturbing lack of math in this game
nabe you forgot the most important observation of all in this game: you replaced noobscum
i dunno what to tell you dancer. its like you are on a mission to cockblock the **** out of every wagon in this game. if youve got something better then im listening. ill take a closer look at your questions soon
disturbing lack of math in this game
Raziek
Charging Limit All Day
Vote count and prods after work today.
It's been one day going on two, Gheb (least for me). Give me a moment. I've been dealing with moving situations for the last 3-4 days. I should be posting a little more tonight (if anything)@mod
Is it possible that some players deserve prods by now? I'm looking mainly at KevinM, Rockin and Orboknown. These guys haven't posted in a while.
#HBC | Dancer
The nicest of the damned.
@1: Well, if someone was already on another wagon and didn't want to leave then I can see why they would say something along the lines of "I'm on the wagon in spirit." Cis they simply didn't want to leave the wagon they already were on.
I was more so asking you why it seems like Gorf and Orbknown seem like they are distancing. Is it becuase of Gorf's lack of commitment?
@2: Well, he laid down a read list, albeit it wasn't very different from his previous reads nor was it controversial. I think that the amount that he has laid down is fair considering the information he has had.
@3: Nvm this point, for some reason thought you were still being a hipster with a wagon that wasn't going to work out.
@JTB: Honestly didn't think of that. Just kinda defended who I thought was town.
@MarshyL Would appreciate you answering those questions.
Also you still really haven't told us why Gorf is a good wagon.
Also I'm currently am looking at J, and realizing that there's nothing from him that I really care for that much.
unvote vote J
@AM: Why do you like J? Looking at him toDay, I can't really tell what there is for you to like about him besides form the Soup read. Initial jump on me and Gorf was bad, and in general his reads are very "meh." Soup could just be backed into a corner with a bad read, so go with me on this? Reconsider J toDay?
@Soup: He played lurky and kinda just attacked generic targets as town, so yeah.
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Marshmellowman
Macman|marshy
@ kevin
do you have any thoughts on j?
do you have any thoughts on j?
Marshmellowman
Macman|marshy
@ kevin
how do i know you're not scum employing the same strat you used in mario party 2 maf?
how do i know you're not scum employing the same strat you used in mario party 2 maf?
#HBC | Nabe
Beneath it all, he had H-cups all along
Getting back to you now that I'm home from choking hard at a melee tournament!@ kevin
do you have any thoughts on j?
Cuz I'm not scum? :D@ kevin
how do i know you're not scum employing the same strat you used in mario party 2 maf?
Hey bro this is cute but how about you read the ****ing game and give us reads instead of continuing to stall the game with your "funny" reads about players. You could probably have read 10-20 posts in the time you made this one... also you're wrong on most accounts.
Earlier in the game this was your faux scum list that you had pegged thus far in the game.. only problem was there wasn't a single piece of scum in it.. it's basically worthless, you gave us people that looked town mainly because they weren't voting you and posting a lot and then said "Null on everyone else" which literally gives us absolutely no information. I have to read further on but if you haven't extrapolated your views from this point until the page we're on now I'm just going to consider you the proper lynch today unless you start seriously contributing.. taking the easy way out like this as a weaker player is scummy as hell.
Proxy vote on anyone and I'll make sure I shove a lynch train on you so fast that you'll look at your dead slot going "Man maybe I should look for scum instead of just OMGUSing and making frownie faces when people call my slot scummy
You're super giving passes to newer players here.. any particular reason? Scum mate? or are you just going to give him a lot of wiggle room and let it bite you in the *** later when it counts?It isn't his job, but his job is to read into the intent of other players, which his skill does play a part in.
This comes off as very transparent of you.
Consider you there in spirit? Really helpful but doesn't hold any weight when you're vote was sitting on some slot that you apparently didn't feel strongly enough to push. Also really easy as a scum to just point out you agree with a case and hilarious enough you keep bringing up how you Gheb really isn't playing hard and that you're going to give Orbo a pass on sheeping.. is it because you were planning on just sheeping onto this case as well?
Nice a "watch list" that is helpful when you're not giving any particular reasons why you have players there. Also to name two other players and say they're on your INACTIVE HUNT would imply that you are going to pressure inactive slots which you haven't done nor have you tried once to draw them into speaking with questions.Vote: Gheb
I don't approve of the transparent play and ironically not really doing anything.
Legolas was on our watch list but i need to take a closer look at his newer posts.
Rockin is on my watch list.
JTB and Rake are on my inactive hunt.
You've now posted useless fluff for two straight pages.
Glad you're still just piggybacking all of your views and being entirely useless this far into D1
I agree with a lot of this and my read on soup started to change it's momentum over to townie here. I also like his question on Rockin because it's something Rockin really hadn't addressed up until this point though he had been defending the Orbo slot at the same time.
a lot of the time a scum will protect a weaker slot because the slot looks like it's going to get lynched. When that slot gets lynched they as a whole will look more townie because they were defending the townie hardbody. I've employed this tactic a lot on earlier days of a game.
Terrible scummy response, thanks for making it easy to lynch you.
Oh wait... You're still refusing to comment on anything relative to the game and still arguing about something asinine like someone's perceived skill level in mafia.
Hi my name is LAK and I plan on going around in circles without commenting on the game.
The irony in asking someone to expand on a view after these last two pages is horrible.
>_>
Here's where J pops in for the first time and tell us he's going to start responding to things. Also beings buddying Marshy hard, something I've seen him do as scum and town so Null on that.
Still hasn't "responded to anything" but he's asking a lot of questions with not a lot of weight in them and the second one gets little to nothing accomplished... Yes or No questions in mafia really bug me.
I don't understand a lot of the first part of this.. Do you feel like he is scum because Swords isn't posting? Or do you just get scum vibes when Xonar posts because of his reads?
Buddy buddy buddy
Also the Orbo thing here irks me a lot... it's like a subtle push on our night actions without trying to appear to direct them.
This is a terrible post... I have a lot of scum reads.. which I haven't elaborated on at all and yet I will name three of them here and then casually tell you to vote someone without going into detail but then keeping mine on another person without furthering my read or explaining any possibile changes on the player slot.
Stop doing things like this it's ****ing annoying and a really bad idea at playing this game out... stop trying to form these weird *** alliances.
Nope they won't so we'll see whats up.i dont give a **** of either die. btw can you go into more detail on soupadoupa like you offered?
I was going to find a picture of Marshmallow Fluff but i'm too lazy.
Rockin
LAK
Orboknown
J
Aggresive Mediation
Lego
Nabe
There are a lot of players that could go that about shows my list
The red ones can go for sure
The yellow ones I feel kind of null on but they're definitely not helping so far tho Aggresive started off as really townie.
LAK
Orboknown
J
Aggresive Mediation
Lego
Nabe
There are a lot of players that could go that about shows my list
The red ones can go for sure
The yellow ones I feel kind of null on but they're definitely not helping so far tho Aggresive started off as really townie.
Also worth pointing out is the fact that Orbo still hasn't placed down a stronger read then his
"town are the people defending me, and null on everyone else I'm useless aren't I"
reads.
"town are the people defending me, and null on everyone else I'm useless aren't I"
reads.
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
Ok after J, KeviM dies.
Sword quote this for me.
Sword quote this for me.
You're a real idiot bro.
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
You make me hard.
Haha ok
Well then how about just playing mafia and not ever trying to lynch me when I'm obv town!
Well then how about just playing mafia and not ever trying to lynch me when I'm obv town!
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
I cant play mafia with this boner, so you'll have to die before that happens : (