Retire

Bad Cupboard · Jan 22, 2013

but I need my fire, it keeps me warm

how2smashbrothers · Jan 22, 2013

leffen is gonna miss his boo =[

Peach also probably fell a whole tier upon this announcement.

The Real Gamer · Jan 22, 2013

Based on Armada's recent comments I'm pretty sure it's safe to assume that he'll eventually be back... He just needs some time away from the game. Nearly impossible for us to gauge exactly how long (6 months, 1 year, 2+ years?), but he'll definitely be back.

Many of us will eagerly await your return Armada!

Sheck · Jan 22, 2013

Good idea man, quit while you're ahead. 2 Apexes in a row, damn...Plus, it can't be that much fun to fly to the States all the time for majors.

CorteX · Jan 22, 2013

This thread made me happy I was actually able to play you once.
Don't think anyone JV4stocked me before twice in a row while sandbagging.
Maybe in the future the metagame evolves to a point where people get so insanely good that you will have more competition (no offense to anyone before I get flamed) to re-ignite this fire you speak of.
I don't know if that's part of the reason you're retiring, but I can understand that things get dull when you've proven yourself over and over again and there isn't much left to gain.
Thanks for visiting Holland, and thanks for showing USA that Europe is a force not to be reckoned with. Good luck and who knows what might happen in the future.

Peace out.

Wobbly Headed Bob · Jan 22, 2013

Awww. Armada was not only the champion, but also the most important player to the competitive top metagame. His character choice caused so much upset that so many players were developing esoteric anti-Armada strategies.

Without Armada, Young Link would have probably never won Grand Finals at APEX, we'll probably never see Hbox's Ness nor PP's Marth among other unforgettable matchups against Taj, Axe, and Mango. We probably won't have the warmth brought by pointless USA chants anymore.

It's only sad that Armada won't be attending Melee's EVO comeback nor finishing a Genesis trilogy. Just when I thought 2013 would be the most exciting year for Melee... it won't be the same without him. I do have to thank Armada for being integral in the most exciting events that kept a guy like me glued to his computer screen watching streams for multiple weekends.

MikeHaggarTHAKJB · Jan 22, 2013

ajp_anton said:
leffen:
I think it's better to announce the retirement, even if it's temporary, rather than just not go to tournaments and cause lots of confusion.
I mean, he is the top player so people are going to notice and care.
Maybe he shouldn't call it "retirement" yet though. "Taking a break" would be better, and then see what happens next.

Armada:
Just don't think about smash for a while. If you do, and keep reminding yourself that you're retiring, you will keep the "fire" away anyway.
Also, taking a break might even be a good thing IF you come back. Often when you push yourself hard to perform well, you limit yourself to one way of thinking. When I played the piano, it was useful to practise the **** out of a part, then not play it for a month, and then suddenly you're much better at it than before.

qft this entire post. i agree with everything.

you never know, the fire might come back. my entire life ive worked in a way that ive had special, very specific interests that i would burn for intensly. i would obsess over these things and get very good at them, but eventually the fire would go away, often as a result of pushing myself to hard and having to high demands on myself. but for some of these interests the fire has returned. it might for armada aswell someday.

i really respect, and above all, understand armadas decision. even though it makes me a bit sad.
the thing that makes the most happy is that ill never stop having fun at tournies, smashfests and trips with bulbasaur <3

G U R U · Jan 22, 2013

Melee at EVO won't be the same without you. God speed champ.

DrinkingFood · Jan 23, 2013

I was looking forward to seeing you at EVO :/
Too bad I never got to play against you either, wouldn't have minded learning how far behind I was through getting 4 stocked a couple times...

UGS.Android · Jan 23, 2013

ajp_anton said:
leffen:
I think it's better to announce the retirement, even if it's temporary, rather than just not go to tournaments and cause lots of confusion.
I mean, he is the top player so people are going to notice and care.
Maybe he shouldn't call it "retirement" yet though. "Taking a break" would be better, and then see what happens next.

Armada:
Just don't think about smash for a while. If you do, and keep reminding yourself that you're retiring, you will keep the "fire" away anyway.
Also, taking a break might even be a good thing IF you come back. Often when you push yourself hard to perform well, you limit yourself to one way of thinking. When I played the piano, it was useful to practise the **** out of a part, then not play it for a month, and then suddenly you're much better at it than before.

I think you have right

joY · Jan 23, 2013

Ahhhh but Evo!!!

Anyways, you're the best!

Also, this is the best news Hungrybox has ever gotten.

Jmorsch · Jan 23, 2013

joY said:
Ahhhh but Evo!!!

Anyways, you're the best!

Also, this is the best news Hungrybox has ever gotten.

Mango and PeePee are a bigger counter to him then armada imo.

ZeldaFreak0309 · Jan 23, 2013

joY said:
Ahhhh but Evo!!!

Anyways, you're the best!

Also, this is the best news Hungrybox has ever gotten.

why would hbox be happy about this, i'd imagine he'd be really disappointed to not have any more chances to beat armada in tournament lol

ivootjes(nr18) · Jan 23, 2013

Because of this thread I just rewatched my favorite Armada vid! :troll:

Thanks Armada, for the games we've had and the entertainment on the countless livestreams i've watched.

Respect

Froggy · Jan 23, 2013

Armada if I'm being honest I'm not ok with you leaving. But I must say that you have been absolute entertainer. I can think of more than once I was sad or frustrated and watching your videos made me smile. I wouldn't be as into the smash community if it weren't for you. So good luck with everything man. You rock.

Dulren · Jan 23, 2013

Armada, you are an excellent competitor and a true champion. Had to give respect to one of the most dominant melee players of all time. Not since Ken has a player single-handedly forged a character's meta game like you have. props dude and good luck with whatever else may come in your life! I'm sure that if you take the drive you have demonstrated in melee, you'll succeed in life.

Shimesaba · Jan 23, 2013

Dulren said:
Not since Ken has a player single-handedly forged a character's meta game like you have.

This is an insult to Armada imo. I don't have any trouble believing M2K when he says that Ken ripped off his tech.

bubbaking · Jan 23, 2013

Yeah, tbh, if anything, M2K forged Marth's metagame as much as Ken did and Sheik's metagame as much as KK did. Armada, on the other hand, shaped his own character's top metagame all by himself. The man's a genius.

Ziodyne · Jan 23, 2013

I rooted against Armada, but I can't deny how friggin' amazing he is. Became best in the world with Peach of all characters and did **** no one had seen before and still can't fully replicate to this day. Sucks though, I think Genesis 3 would have been the best farewell tournament Armada could've gotten.

Honestly just hope another player can come along to match Armada's legacy, in both pushing a character's metagame to the absolute limits and dominating the tournament scene to such a huge degree.

MaNg0 · Jan 23, 2013

I think this is pretty silly...

You're saying you lost the fire???

LMAOOO hard to believe considering you have super close sets with all the top players

and dropping sets to kevin and his ****TY marth

( ***** that ****ty marth in friendlies ) ( LMAOAOA )

When I lost my fire it was after traveling to tourneys in every region and winning without people taking games off of me for like 2 years.. and when the game was dying.

You've only actually won 4 tourneys since you've been on top ( in America ) ( Europe don't count they blow )

And you wont even play me when we set up a fund for me to go to Sweden and after every already had donated and after we had talked about it like 6 months ago or something.

our community is so small so one of our top players retiring is a super big deal...

And to retire when were gonna possibly gonna make evo ? AND G3 was just announced .

that's like what we've always wanted.. we even got a bunch of viewers at apex.. Melees on the comeback dude

The thing I learned a while back is that we play for something bigger then us.

I think its super duper lame to retire at THIS MOMENT

but yeah its ur call

I think at the least you could give the community 1 more armada mango set

on ur home turf

d00d

Ziodyne · Jan 23, 2013

^^^ rooted for this guy instead

zero regrets, now and forever

SaixXIsaVII · Jan 23, 2013

Mango

types

like

a
****ing

Champion

doooOOOoodD

Voltz · Jan 23, 2013

MaNg0 said:
I think this is pretty silly...

You're saying you lost the fire???

LMAOOO hard to believe considering you have super close sets with all the top players

and dropping sets to kevin and his ****TY marth

( ***** that ****ty marth in friendlies ) ( LMAOAOA )

When I lost my fire it was after traveling to tourneys in every region and winning without people taking games off of me for like 2 years.. and when the game was dying.

You've only actually won 4 tourneys since you've been on top ( in America ) ( Europe don't count they blow )

And you wont even play me when we set up a fund for me to go to Sweden and after every already had donated and after we had talked about it like 6 months ago or something.

our community is so small so one of our top players retiring is a super big deal...

And to retire when were gonna possibly gonna make evo ? AND G3 was just announced .

that's like what we've always wanted.. we even got a bunch of viewers at apex.. Melees on the comeback dude

The thing I learned a while back is that we play for something bigger then us.

I think its super duper lame to retire at THIS MOMENT

but yeah its ur call

I think at the least you could give the community 1 more armada mango set

on ur home turf

d00d

Epic speech.

thespymachine · Jan 23, 2013

The fire rises in #MangoNation

PB&J · Jan 23, 2013

lets do it armada,you vs Mango

and Mango i think i have so Buddy Passes coming my way with one of them being yours

edit:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y18dPvifrc

-ACE- · Jan 23, 2013

Yo Armada, you're a ****ing ***** if you back out now.

wqqqqwrt · Jan 23, 2013

Mango said it

Chubbz · Jan 23, 2013

mango's a champ, clearly

SwiftBass · Jan 23, 2013

MaNg0 said:
I think this is pretty silly...

You're saying you lost the fire???

LMAOOO hard to believe considering you have super close sets with all the top players

and dropping sets to kevin and his ****TY marth

( ***** that ****ty marth in friendlies ) ( LMAOAOA )

When I lost my fire it was after traveling to tourneys in every region and winning without people taking games off of me for like 2 years.. and when the game was dying.

You've only actually won 4 tourneys since you've been on top ( in America ) ( Europe don't count they blow )

And you wont even play me when we set up a fund for me to go to Sweden and after every already had donated and after we had talked about it like 6 months ago or something.

our community is so small so one of our top players retiring is a super big deal...

And to retire when were gonna possibly gonna make evo ? AND G3 was just announced .

that's like what we've always wanted.. we even got a bunch of viewers at apex.. Melees on the comeback dude

The thing I learned a while back is that we play for something bigger then us.

I think its super duper lame to retire at THIS MOMENT

but yeah its ur call

I think at the least you could give the community 1 more armada mango set

on ur home turf

d00d

ummm

yeahhh...

pound3

iRobinhoood · Jan 23, 2013

Get your matches and ego in early, you never know when the tourney might end.

The Business · Jan 23, 2013

SwiftBass said:
ummm

yeahhh...

pound3

what about pound 3

MaNg0 · Jan 24, 2013

I won it

d00d

Falconv1.0 · Jan 24, 2013

Oh yeah, Ken totally took M2K's tech, kinda how George Washington stole diplomatic techniques from Richard Nixon.

Wait, what?

strawhats · Jan 24, 2013

Damn....Mangeezy wit dem callouts

AppleAppleAZ · Jan 24, 2013

Yeah boi. #mangonation foreva!

Tee ay eye · Jan 24, 2013

MaNg0 said:
The thing I learned a while back is that we play for something bigger then us.

I think at the least you could give the community 1 more armada mango set

on ur home turf

d00d

daaaaaaaamn

The Real Gamer · Jan 24, 2013

Damn Mango with the callout.

MikeHaggarTHAKJB · Jan 24, 2013

goddamn mangos post is so ****ing stupid
you wouldn't have won so much in flopmerica if armada lived there and armada wouldve won a million tournaments there if he lived there (or had just attended as many as a flopmerican could)

choknater · Jan 24, 2013

technically mango u could've given us that armada mango set at apex

but u lost

Xelyst · Jan 24, 2013

MaNg0 said:
our community is so small so one of our top players retiring is a super big deal...

Melees on the comeback dude

The thing I learned a while back is that we play for something bigger then us.

d00d

pretty much

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