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Guide The Yo-yo Glitch: Cracked. (Update: FAQ now in first post)
- Thread starter dan smith
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Earthbound360
Smash Hero
Is that a retorical question?
I dunno, I haven't made it yet. But I know it wont be an hour long
. I can't do that much work.
I dunno, I haven't made it yet. But I know it wont be an hour long
. I can't do that much work.
dan smith
Smash Champion
Rhyme
Smash Lord
I developed a random question through practicing techniques against random lv 9 CPU's...will a computer spontaneously walljump? I believe I did Falcon's Nair then jumped out and spiked Mario. He meteor cancels with his second jump, then walljumps off the edge of Final, floats away, then Bups and lives. To my knowledge, the only time a CPU walljumps, even if it is an agile character like Mario, is when they walltech jump after being hit. So the follow-up is, are there other characters that can drop hitboxes like Ness can? Falcon's Nair is multiple hit, and I did do it right at the edge, so lets just say that it dropped a trapbox and when it hit Mario, he walljump techs.
My only other solution would be that he is learning new techniques based on a database the game creates of all the moves that the player has done. It always seems odd to me that when I play without a memory card the CPU sucks but gets better on my good file. I never remembered the CPU SHing, doing running attacks, jumping off the edge and doing anything other than a spike, etc. It actually seems like, the more you play the CPU, the better it gets.
My only other solution would be that he is learning new techniques based on a database the game creates of all the moves that the player has done. It always seems odd to me that when I play without a memory card the CPU sucks but gets better on my good file. I never remembered the CPU SHing, doing running attacks, jumping off the edge and doing anything other than a spike, etc. It actually seems like, the more you play the CPU, the better it gets.
i believe that you di something that made the CP want to move away right when it was at the wall...so it wall jumped
you can do similar things to make CPs wavedash
you can do similar things to make CPs wavedash
OnYourMark
オンヨマク いつも
Does anyone think that the YYG is actually an easter egg? It is so complex that one can only think that it is very possible that this glitch was programmed intentionally into the game.
Clue? : "Electric Ness" - A hint that Ness can not only look like he is storing electricity on his body, but also that he CAN in fact store electricity on himself (with the thunder jacket).
Is the YYG a gift from the programmers for Ness' poor (excuse me -- less than average) grab range by means of his less than impressive upsmash and downsmash?
Clue? : "Electric Ness" - A hint that Ness can not only look like he is storing electricity on his body, but also that he CAN in fact store electricity on himself (with the thunder jacket).
Is the YYG a gift from the programmers for Ness' poor (excuse me -- less than average) grab range by means of his less than impressive upsmash and downsmash?
Handorin
Smash Hero
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Im pretty sure programmers did know about Lcanceling. It was in the N64 version, and then transfered into Melee.
I heard that they taught people in Japan how to Lcancel at a convention, but dont quote me on that because I cant remember how long ago or what my source was. XD
I heard that they taught people in Japan how to Lcancel at a convention, but dont quote me on that because I cant remember how long ago or what my source was. XD
well they knew about L canceling and left it in. (They tweaked it though, in the 64 version there wasnt any lag at all, but in mellee lag is just reduced.)
But no I highly doubt the YYG was an easter egg. Its just a glitch in the physics. When you hit with the yoyo as its coming out it expects you to get as it goes around, but if you make it so that it doesnt you have that hitbox that they expected you to hit. Remember in both the weak and strong yyg you hit only once as its coming out... that trapbox thats left now reacts in weird ways with different moves.
Yooooo... i accidently did a weak yyg, i didnt know if i had the trapbox set or not but i tried to put on a thunder jacket , and dit worked. I also got a lo percentage kill, so yea don't forget about the weak yyg!
But no I highly doubt the YYG was an easter egg. Its just a glitch in the physics. When you hit with the yoyo as its coming out it expects you to get as it goes around, but if you make it so that it doesnt you have that hitbox that they expected you to hit. Remember in both the weak and strong yyg you hit only once as its coming out... that trapbox thats left now reacts in weird ways with different moves.
Yooooo... i accidently did a weak yyg, i didnt know if i had the trapbox set or not but i tried to put on a thunder jacket , and dit worked. I also got a lo percentage kill, so yea don't forget about the weak yyg!
Rhyme
Smash Lord
I still lean towards easter egg. After all there were plenty of un-forseen glitches such as SWD(if you believe such things, there is no reference for what this is supposed to be), bomb jumping out of a mid-air grapple, the boomerang jump glitch, IC's and mewtwo's freeze glitches, jumping through Corneria w/ GW, falling through the level with pika/pichu's Bair, etc. It is also common knowledge that some of those glitches, bomb jumping from midair grapple, boomerang jump, falling through the level with pika/pichu's Bair, have been corrected. And yes even some obvious glitches like jigg's shield break were overlooked, but the boomerang and grapple jump glitches are so abstract and were removed; I wouldn't doubt that Nintendo cound have known about or even intentionally given Ness the YYG and SYYG. It's just, the entire execution is so complex yet flowing, and the way it is achieved could not have been any easier, although it is still hard to do in battle. It would also be a huge coincidence that Ness is given the most jacketable attacks of any character in the game, plus he has a jacket for every purpose there need be a jacket. I actually doubt that it is a glitch, but then again there is no proof either direction, only speculation.
Earthbound360
Smash Hero
I actualy kinda doubt that they intended to put this into the game, but then again there is that 12% of me that thinks they did. I mean, Ness just HAPPENS to be thecharacter with the most "Jacketable" type hitboxes. Y'know, one hitbox and can recall the deathline. Oh, and L-Cancelling is not a glitch, or is it necessary for putting on the Spike and Star jackets. But it cuts lag, so why not?
OnYourMark
オンヨマク いつも
Star KO, Meteor KO, and the glorious PKT KO.
Wow. I didn't even think about that.
i dont think jiggs sheild break is a glitch. It would be wierd if the yyg was an easter egg.
Wave⁂
Smash Legend
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- 11,870
un-forseen glitches such as SWD(if you believe such things, there is no reference for what this is supposed to be), bomb jumping out of a mid-air grapple, the boomerang jump glitch, IC's and mewtwo's freeze glitches, jumping through Corneria w/ GW, falling through the level with pika/pichu's Bair, etc.
SWD is a glitch in Physics because of the versitality of morph ball form.
boomerang jump glitch IS a glitch. **** stallers.
SWD is a glitch in Physics because of the versitality of morph ball form.
boomerang jump glitch IS a glitch. **** stallers.
squaminator
Smash Ace
SYYG info?!
Earthbound360
Smash Hero
Nope, sorry, none yet. But what we know is that it involves charging a yo-yo completely off the edge.
OnYourMark
オンヨマク いつも
Does this happen to anyone else:
Drop the Thunder Jacket, but it is largely weakened and is perhaps turned into a regular Yoyo trapbox.
EDIT: I wish I had AR...
Drop the Thunder Jacket, but it is largely weakened and is perhaps turned into a regular Yoyo trapbox.
EDIT: I wish I had AR...
Earthbound360
Smash Hero
No, the weak TJ has nothing to do with you dropping it, but the fact that you cancelled the attack late. If you cancel PKTJ right as you hit yourself, you get a stronger, larger jacket. If you cancel it during the actual movement of the PKTJ stretch, you get the weaker, smaller, sourspotted TJ (still kinda strong).
Guys... it happened again. Remeber when I told you guys about the 3 hit Spike Jacket. Well, during a match with my friend, I YYGed and the trapbox ended up in a wierd spot (like a bit behind me) and when he walked into it, he took 2 hits. I know you may not belive me now, since I'm the only guy who has experienced this so far
, but someone has just gotta believe me. I believe Dan Smith had once had a strange experience with the trapbox edning up behind him once. I can't ingore this anymore. If we (or I 
) can figure this out, we may be getting double or triple hit TJs.
OnYourMark
オンヨマク いつも
About how much damage does the weak Thunder Jacket do?
Because the thunder jacket I dropped did only 3% . . .
Or is that what the weak thunder jacket does when it is dropped?
EDIT: I believe you about the double and triple hit stuff =P
Because the thunder jacket I dropped did only 3% . . .
Or is that what the weak thunder jacket does when it is dropped?
EDIT: I believe you about the double and triple hit stuff =P
Earthbound360
Smash Hero
Umm... no that can't be it. It would still have good knockback and do 20%. If you drop a jacket, and time it slightly wrong, you will just drop a regular trapbox. Maybe that's what you did. Did the one that did that make a zap noise upon contact?
Reik
Smash Ace
Weird. Record all your matches from now on in case it happens again. >_>
OnYourMark
オンヨマク いつも
Oh there.. that's it. *sigh*
I didn't know that happens if you time it poorly.
Earthbound360
Smash Hero
Hmm... that would be hard. I dont YYG every match obviously, but i'llsee. I wasn't even having a match when it happened. After 3 long years of YYGing him, I decided to clear thing up for him since he was so confused. I took him to training mode and bam, it happens. Also, I'm pretty sure that his would make no difference, but it seems that I am always in training mode when this happens.
EDIT: Does anyone have a dime? I need it to buy a jawbreaker. Well, I would use my own, but my pockets are stucktogether right now.
Earthbound360
Smash Hero
Hmm... but how would two or three trapboxes completely overlapping eachother look. Meh... I wanna figure this out, but it's really frustrating me becuase I can't repeat it when I want.
Rhyme
Smash Lord
But if it's only 2 or 3 hits than its not SYYG, so what would you call it?Hmm... but how would two or three trapboxes completely overlapping eachother look. Meh... I wanna figure this out, but it's really frustrating me becuase I can't repeat it when I want.
squaminator
Smash Ace
the ghetto SSYG (AKA GSSYG)
Earthbound360
Smash Hero
XD
Umm... I dunno. Ness' usmash has too much in it seriously.
Anyone try the challenge at all yet?
EDIT: Happy Haloween! I was dressed up as a mushroom pizza.
Earthbound360
Smash Hero
For what, the AR stuff in the AR discussion? Umm... kinda expected it to be posted in the topic itself, but okay then.your welcome, EB360.
Oh, and I don't go to the bathroom to do what I need to do. Real men go where they want!
Same here annoying.
some more SYYG info guys....make of it what u can:
flamestarr666: ok something odd happened
Simna ibn Sind: yeah?
Simna ibn Sind: u did SYYG?
flamestarr666: i dunno
flamestarr666: i yoyo'ed off the edge
flamestarr666: and i was messing around
flamestarr666: then i pkt's back onto the edge becaise i jumped off
flamestarr666: and ganon was near the edge
flamestarr666: and i hit him like 4 times
flamestarr666: 0-like... 78
Simna ibn Sind: !!! did u record it?
flamestarr666: no
flamestarr666: i have no recording device
flamestarr666: T______________T
Simna ibn Sind: everlasting jacket....that's syyg
flamestarr666: no way!
flamestarr666: omg
flamestarr666: let me try ro recreate it
Simna ibn Sind: what happened after?
Simna ibn Sind: is the match still open?
flamestarr666: it's in training
Simna ibn Sind: have u reset or anything?
flamestarr666: no
flamestarr666: i paused
flamestarr666: that's it
Simna ibn Sind: sweetspot the edge with pk thunder
flamestarr666: nothing
flamestarr666: i died before though
Simna ibn Sind: o
flamestarr666: i diddn't make it back on
Simna ibn Sind: wait try throwing dorf
flamestarr666: normal
Simna ibn Sind: hmmm.
Simna ibn Sind: i guess it disarms when u die
flamestarr666: all you heard was zapzapzapzap
Simna ibn Sind: good progress tho
flamestarr666: then he went flying
flamestarr666: wanna know something weird
Simna ibn Sind: yeah
Simna ibn Sind: i wanna know weverything
Simna ibn Sind: everything*
flamestarr666: ok this is what i did
flamestarr666: i was wd to the edge, faling pff
flamestarr666: i did it 4 times about
flamestarr666: i pk'ed back on
Simna ibn Sind: faling pff?
flamestarr666: falling off*
Simna ibn Sind: of
flamestarr666: wding off the edge
Simna ibn Sind: oh*
flamestarr666: so i pk'ed back on the legde
flamestarr666: i'm on FD
flamestarr666: about a roll distance away
flamestarr666: i grabed ganon and tossed him to the edge
flamestarr666: i paused, because iu had a phone call
flamestarr666: i did a normal yyg
flamestarr666: then i attached it to myself
flamestarr666: spiked him up
flamestarr666: then i threw him to the middle of the stage
flamestarr666: i nailed myself with the pk thunder straight down
flamestarr666: you know to tget that static affect
Simna ibn Sind: yeah
flamestarr666: i throw him again
flamestarr666: no
flamestarr666: i yoyo's off the edge like 5 times
flamestarr666: then i threw him
Simna ibn Sind: were u able to charge it?
flamestarr666: yeah
flamestarr666: 2nd one i missed i think
flamestarr666: might of been the 3rd
Simna ibn Sind: how much did u charge them?
flamestarr666: all the way
Simna ibn Sind: ok
flamestarr666: so then, i jumped off, i was like w/e, right
flamestarr666: i pked the edge back near the bottom stright up
flamestarr666: i well
flamestarr666: kinda left
flamestarr666: mostly up
flamestarr666: and i hit ganon's barely
flamestarr666: and i o heard was zapzapzapzap
flamestarr666: then i died
flamestarr666: i thought i sweetspoted it, i guess i didn't and i missed
Simna ibn Sind: did u bounce off the wall or what?
flamestarr666: no
flamestarr666: i fell
Simna ibn Sind: were u too far or did u just kinda fall?
Simna ibn Sind: did u reach the edge at all?
flamestarr666: i wasn't paying attention
flamestarr666: i think i did
Simna ibn Sind: because that's another syyg effect
Simna ibn Sind: PK Thundering thru solid objects...u may very well have gotten to the edge but gone thru it then fall down out the bottom
flamestarr666: i thought i saw some grafical glitches on ness
flamestarr666: maybe it was the multiple impact
Simna ibn Sind: yeah i believe those happen too
Simna ibn Sind: now that we have more proof that this does in fact exist...we must figure out the exacts behind it^_^
flamestarr666: it's insane
flamestarr666: if we can figure this out
flamestarr666: ness will broken
flamestarr666: lol
flamestarr666: you better take me with you
flamestarr666: if you go to a tournament
Simna ibn Sind: lol
Simna ibn Sind: as soon as i can do the SYYG whenever i want
Simna ibn Sind: first thing im gonna do is
Simna ibn Sind: im gonna go to socal
Simna ibn Sind: and im gonna have a bowser challenge
flamestarr666: LOL
Simna ibn Sind: im gonna thunder jacket and spam pk fire
Simna ibn Sind: that will end the match
flamestarr666: totoally
flamestarr666: i can't yyg
flamestarr666: it won't let me
flamestarr666: dude i can't
Simna ibn Sind: try again
flamestarr666: i did
flamestarr666: like 20 times
Simna ibn Sind: use fair, then try again
flamestarr666: i fif
flamestarr666: didi*
flamestarr666: this is pissing me off
Simna ibn Sind: u broke the game
flamestarr666: lol
Simna ibn Sind: u r banned from tournament
flamestarr666: i just did it
flamestarr666: i reset
flamestarr666: on training
flamestarr666: i dunno if it was just me
flamestarr666: but i swore i felt a rumble when i was midair
flamestarr666: i dunno
Simna ibn Sind: rumble?
flamestarr666: my controller
Simna ibn Sind: when in midair?
flamestarr666: yes
flamestarr666: i jumped off
flamestarr666: and i felt a slight shake
flamestarr666: i dunno if it was just me
flamestarr666: or something
Simna ibn Sind: its the gods
flamestarr666: lol
Simna ibn Sind: warning u not to proceed
Simna ibn Sind: u are walking into broken territory
flamestarr666: can you ttg with the d smash?
Simna ibn Sind: u can yyg dsmash but we looked into that and found it mostly useless
flamestarr666: how so?
Simna ibn Sind: ya know how with upsmash u have to hit the opponent for it to work?
flamestarr666: yeah?
Simna ibn Sind: with dsmash yyg u have to hit the opponent AND get hit yourself
flamestarr666: o.0
flamestarr666: how do you do that?
Simna ibn Sind: i did it as an edgeguard vs. marth
flamestarr666: oh
Simna ibn Sind: dsmash as he is coming up, then it makes him drop a bit, then release, then he upBs and hits u
flamestarr666: oh ok
Simna ibn Sind: hey
flamestarr666: hmm?
Simna ibn Sind: when u yoyo'd over the edge
Simna ibn Sind: how far over the edge was the yoyo?
flamestarr666: i'm not sure
flamestarr666: like...
Simna ibn Sind: was it like hanging straight down string and all?
flamestarr666: i think i tipped the edge
flamestarr666: like, at a 45 degree angel
flamestarr666: angle*
Simna ibn Sind: was the string over or just the head?
flamestarr666: string was about 40% off the egde
flamestarr666: edge*
Simna ibn Sind: cool
Simna ibn Sind: good info
flamestarr666: the string seemed to bend
flamestarr666: almost wanting to go straight down
Simna ibn Sind: but not quite?
flamestarr666: almost like a sharp angle
flamestarr666: you knw normally it's like curves
flamestarr666: it wad kinda just staight
flamestarr666: then down
Simna ibn Sind: like a straight diagonal line away from ness?
flamestarr666: kinda
flamestarr666: like 50 stright
flamestarr666: slight curve
flamestarr666: then 45 degrees
flamestarr666: ok something odd happened
Simna ibn Sind: yeah?
Simna ibn Sind: u did SYYG?
flamestarr666: i dunno
flamestarr666: i yoyo'ed off the edge
flamestarr666: and i was messing around
flamestarr666: then i pkt's back onto the edge becaise i jumped off
flamestarr666: and ganon was near the edge
flamestarr666: and i hit him like 4 times
flamestarr666: 0-like... 78
Simna ibn Sind: !!! did u record it?
flamestarr666: no
flamestarr666: i have no recording device
flamestarr666: T______________T
Simna ibn Sind: everlasting jacket....that's syyg
flamestarr666: no way!
flamestarr666: omg
flamestarr666: let me try ro recreate it
Simna ibn Sind: what happened after?
Simna ibn Sind: is the match still open?
flamestarr666: it's in training
Simna ibn Sind: have u reset or anything?
flamestarr666: no
flamestarr666: i paused
flamestarr666: that's it
Simna ibn Sind: sweetspot the edge with pk thunder
flamestarr666: nothing
flamestarr666: i died before though
Simna ibn Sind: o
flamestarr666: i diddn't make it back on
Simna ibn Sind: wait try throwing dorf
flamestarr666: normal
Simna ibn Sind: hmmm.
Simna ibn Sind: i guess it disarms when u die
flamestarr666: all you heard was zapzapzapzap
Simna ibn Sind: good progress tho
flamestarr666: then he went flying
flamestarr666: wanna know something weird
Simna ibn Sind: yeah
Simna ibn Sind: i wanna know weverything
Simna ibn Sind: everything*
flamestarr666: ok this is what i did
flamestarr666: i was wd to the edge, faling pff
flamestarr666: i did it 4 times about
flamestarr666: i pk'ed back on
Simna ibn Sind: faling pff?
flamestarr666: falling off*
Simna ibn Sind: of
flamestarr666: wding off the edge
Simna ibn Sind: oh*
flamestarr666: so i pk'ed back on the legde
flamestarr666: i'm on FD
flamestarr666: about a roll distance away
flamestarr666: i grabed ganon and tossed him to the edge
flamestarr666: i paused, because iu had a phone call
flamestarr666: i did a normal yyg
flamestarr666: then i attached it to myself
flamestarr666: spiked him up
flamestarr666: then i threw him to the middle of the stage
flamestarr666: i nailed myself with the pk thunder straight down
flamestarr666: you know to tget that static affect
Simna ibn Sind: yeah
flamestarr666: i throw him again
flamestarr666: no
flamestarr666: i yoyo's off the edge like 5 times
flamestarr666: then i threw him
Simna ibn Sind: were u able to charge it?
flamestarr666: yeah
flamestarr666: 2nd one i missed i think
flamestarr666: might of been the 3rd
Simna ibn Sind: how much did u charge them?
flamestarr666: all the way
Simna ibn Sind: ok
flamestarr666: so then, i jumped off, i was like w/e, right
flamestarr666: i pked the edge back near the bottom stright up
flamestarr666: i well
flamestarr666: kinda left
flamestarr666: mostly up
flamestarr666: and i hit ganon's barely
flamestarr666: and i o heard was zapzapzapzap
flamestarr666: then i died
flamestarr666: i thought i sweetspoted it, i guess i didn't and i missed
Simna ibn Sind: did u bounce off the wall or what?
flamestarr666: no
flamestarr666: i fell
Simna ibn Sind: were u too far or did u just kinda fall?
Simna ibn Sind: did u reach the edge at all?
flamestarr666: i wasn't paying attention
flamestarr666: i think i did
Simna ibn Sind: because that's another syyg effect
Simna ibn Sind: PK Thundering thru solid objects...u may very well have gotten to the edge but gone thru it then fall down out the bottom
flamestarr666: i thought i saw some grafical glitches on ness
flamestarr666: maybe it was the multiple impact
Simna ibn Sind: yeah i believe those happen too
Simna ibn Sind: now that we have more proof that this does in fact exist...we must figure out the exacts behind it^_^
flamestarr666: it's insane
flamestarr666: if we can figure this out
flamestarr666: ness will broken
flamestarr666: lol
flamestarr666: you better take me with you
flamestarr666: if you go to a tournament
Simna ibn Sind: lol
Simna ibn Sind: as soon as i can do the SYYG whenever i want
Simna ibn Sind: first thing im gonna do is
Simna ibn Sind: im gonna go to socal
Simna ibn Sind: and im gonna have a bowser challenge
flamestarr666: LOL
Simna ibn Sind: im gonna thunder jacket and spam pk fire
Simna ibn Sind: that will end the match
flamestarr666: totoally
flamestarr666: i can't yyg
flamestarr666: it won't let me
flamestarr666: dude i can't
Simna ibn Sind: try again
flamestarr666: i did
flamestarr666: like 20 times
Simna ibn Sind: use fair, then try again
flamestarr666: i fif
flamestarr666: didi*
flamestarr666: this is pissing me off
Simna ibn Sind: u broke the game
flamestarr666: lol
Simna ibn Sind: u r banned from tournament
flamestarr666: i just did it
flamestarr666: i reset
flamestarr666: on training
flamestarr666: i dunno if it was just me
flamestarr666: but i swore i felt a rumble when i was midair
flamestarr666: i dunno
Simna ibn Sind: rumble?
flamestarr666: my controller
Simna ibn Sind: when in midair?
flamestarr666: yes
flamestarr666: i jumped off
flamestarr666: and i felt a slight shake
flamestarr666: i dunno if it was just me
flamestarr666: or something
Simna ibn Sind: its the gods
flamestarr666: lol
Simna ibn Sind: warning u not to proceed
Simna ibn Sind: u are walking into broken territory
flamestarr666: can you ttg with the d smash?
Simna ibn Sind: u can yyg dsmash but we looked into that and found it mostly useless
flamestarr666: how so?
Simna ibn Sind: ya know how with upsmash u have to hit the opponent for it to work?
flamestarr666: yeah?
Simna ibn Sind: with dsmash yyg u have to hit the opponent AND get hit yourself
flamestarr666: o.0
flamestarr666: how do you do that?
Simna ibn Sind: i did it as an edgeguard vs. marth
flamestarr666: oh
Simna ibn Sind: dsmash as he is coming up, then it makes him drop a bit, then release, then he upBs and hits u
flamestarr666: oh ok
Simna ibn Sind: hey
flamestarr666: hmm?
Simna ibn Sind: when u yoyo'd over the edge
Simna ibn Sind: how far over the edge was the yoyo?
flamestarr666: i'm not sure
flamestarr666: like...
Simna ibn Sind: was it like hanging straight down string and all?
flamestarr666: i think i tipped the edge
flamestarr666: like, at a 45 degree angel
flamestarr666: angle*
Simna ibn Sind: was the string over or just the head?
flamestarr666: string was about 40% off the egde
flamestarr666: edge*
Simna ibn Sind: cool
Simna ibn Sind: good info
flamestarr666: the string seemed to bend
flamestarr666: almost wanting to go straight down
Simna ibn Sind: but not quite?
flamestarr666: almost like a sharp angle
flamestarr666: you knw normally it's like curves
flamestarr666: it wad kinda just staight
flamestarr666: then down
Simna ibn Sind: like a straight diagonal line away from ness?
flamestarr666: kinda
flamestarr666: like 50 stright
flamestarr666: slight curve
flamestarr666: then 45 degrees
Flamestar666
Smash Lord
[11:08PM] SimnaibnSind: i did have slight graphicalhickups
[11:09PM] SimnaibnSind: nothing big tho
[11:09PM] flamestarr666: LOL you posted my message?
[11:09PM] SimnaibnSind: yeah
[11:09PM] SimnaibnSind: ^_^
thanks for the heads up
my theory soming up
[11:20PM] flamestarr666: idon't think it has to do wuth the edge
[11:20PM] flamestarr666: i think it had to so with jump canceling the smash
[11:20PM] SimnaibnSind: really?
[11:20PM] flamestarr666: while you're moving
[11:20PM] flamestarr666: i think so
[11:20PM] SimnaibnSind: maybe a combination of both?
[11:20PM] flamestarr666: probab;y
[11:20PM] flamestarr666: because check this out
[11:21PM] flamestarr666: the last time, i missed my smash
[11:21PM] flamestarr666: and jumpped
[11:21PM] flamestarr666: like a n0b
[11:21PM] flamestarr666: n00b*
[11:21PM] flamestarr666: that's when i started ****ing around
[11:22PM] flamestarr666: i'm thinking this...
[11:22PM] flamestarr666: i think it has to do witht he yoyo getting dragged off the edge
[11:23PM] flamestarr666: and the hitbox temp staying on the egde while it sharges
[11:23PM] flamestarr666: charges*
[11:24PM] flamestarr666: which would explain the jump cancel, because caneling the crouch animation would make then yoyo probab;y come out closer
[11:24PM] flamestarr666: and the hitbox would stay on the egde
[11:24PM] SimnaibnSind: hey
[11:24PM] flamestarr666: and snap onto the place where it was suppose to be
[11:09PM] SimnaibnSind: nothing big tho
[11:09PM] flamestarr666: LOL you posted my message?
[11:09PM] SimnaibnSind: yeah
[11:09PM] SimnaibnSind: ^_^
thanks for the heads up
my theory soming up
[11:20PM] flamestarr666: idon't think it has to do wuth the edge
[11:20PM] flamestarr666: i think it had to so with jump canceling the smash
[11:20PM] SimnaibnSind: really?
[11:20PM] flamestarr666: while you're moving
[11:20PM] flamestarr666: i think so
[11:20PM] SimnaibnSind: maybe a combination of both?
[11:20PM] flamestarr666: probab;y
[11:20PM] flamestarr666: because check this out
[11:21PM] flamestarr666: the last time, i missed my smash
[11:21PM] flamestarr666: and jumpped
[11:21PM] flamestarr666: like a n0b
[11:21PM] flamestarr666: n00b*
[11:21PM] flamestarr666: that's when i started ****ing around
[11:22PM] flamestarr666: i'm thinking this...
[11:22PM] flamestarr666: i think it has to do witht he yoyo getting dragged off the edge
[11:23PM] flamestarr666: and the hitbox temp staying on the egde while it sharges
[11:23PM] flamestarr666: charges*
[11:24PM] flamestarr666: which would explain the jump cancel, because caneling the crouch animation would make then yoyo probab;y come out closer
[11:24PM] flamestarr666: and the hitbox would stay on the egde
[11:24PM] SimnaibnSind: hey
[11:24PM] flamestarr666: and snap onto the place where it was suppose to be
OnYourMark
オンヨマク いつも
I hate to interrupt, but I have a quite useless piece of information on the NORMAL YYG.
---An additional Jacket effect that makes Ness nigh invincible to Fox's (/Falco's) Illusion (Side+B)!
If Ness equips a PKT Jacket and uses it on Fox, then Ness will endure all of Fox's Illusions uneffected. This only lasts until Ness uses his "ghost hit."
However, If Ness equips a Star/Spike Jacket and uses it on Fox, then Ness will endure only one of Fox's Illusions uneffected; but after this, Ness will be take damage and knockback.
Note > This is only evident if Fox intersects Ness on the same level. (So if Ness gets hit in the head by a Fox Illusion, then he will suffer damage and knockback)
(By the way, sorry if this is old news...) Now I'll get to searching about the SYYG ^_^ =P
EDIT: Was this already known?
---An additional Jacket effect that makes Ness nigh invincible to Fox's (/Falco's) Illusion (Side+B)!
If Ness equips a PKT Jacket and uses it on Fox, then Ness will endure all of Fox's Illusions uneffected. This only lasts until Ness uses his "ghost hit."
However, If Ness equips a Star/Spike Jacket and uses it on Fox, then Ness will endure only one of Fox's Illusions uneffected; but after this, Ness will be take damage and knockback.
Note > This is only evident if Fox intersects Ness on the same level. (So if Ness gets hit in the head by a Fox Illusion, then he will suffer damage and knockback)
(By the way, sorry if this is old news...) Now I'll get to searching about the SYYG ^_^ =P
EDIT: Was this already known?
Reik
Smash Ace
I am totally confused, but glad that you guys are at least making some progress. Maybe you can clear some of this up for me:
1. Did Flamestar reach the very edge (meaning Ness would have gone into the teeter animation) before JCing a U-smash?
2. Did he wavedash towards the ledge or just run up to it? If he just ran, did he JC from the initial dash animation or the full run animation?
1. Did Flamestar reach the very edge (meaning Ness would have gone into the teeter animation) before JCing a U-smash?
2. Did he wavedash towards the ledge or just run up to it? If he just ran, did he JC from the initial dash animation or the full run animation?