ToS Presents: CLASH OF THE TITANS 4 - Philadelphia, PA - Feb 7/8 NATIONAL!

Puffball64 said:

Don't get hit. No johns.

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who are ya *****? get off me. what a terrible answer for anything.

Mr.E said:

There absolutely was not a SLOW rumble as the lava SLOWLY inches barely into sight as it prepares to SLOWLY move toward the center of the stage. Indeed, I am led to believe that the lava was out to get Inui and just magically appeared in front of him every time he was knocked off the sides somewhere, the ******* stage!

"Bassturd" is a filtered word? Odd.

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Yeah, it's so easy to listen for rumbles with a huge crowd yelling crap at you.

Sadaharu Inui said:

Chibo hosts a lot...and messes up every time.

I'm only representing myself. I admit to being an elitist douchebag. Most players are far more humble and laid back than I am.

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Maybe Chibo shouldn't run tournaments then, and leave that to the pros! *waits for someone to **** on me*

At least you can admit it then o.o
Though are the arguments necessary in that case? I'm pretty sure we're all aware of it, mirite guise?

Sadaharu Inui said:

Random additional damage after that initial hit = LUCK. That kept happening over and over to us, and all that bad luck made us get *****.

You're an idiot, mah d00.

That stage decided who got 2nd, not the players.

Ask anyone at CoT4 that watched that set. EVERYONE that I spoke to about it agreed that Norfair needs to be universally banned.

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I guess our definitions of luck are too subjective for any of us to agree.
It's also funny too, though.

You were outplayed, no johns.

There absolutely was not a SLOW rumble as the lava SLOWLY inches barely into sight as it prepares to SLOWLY move toward the center of the stage. Indeed, I am led to believe that the lava was out to get Inui and just magically appeared in front of him every time he was knocked off the sides somewhere, the ******* stage!

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This.

You weren't beaten by bad luck. You were ***** because you couldn't adapt to the stage, OR manipulate it because of your lack of experience on the stage.

No johns. You just suck on Japes and Norfair.

who are ya *****? get off me. what a terrible answer for anything.

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So terribly true, I know.

Inui. Try to understand that every tournament isn't going to run perfect and on time. Whats done is done. give the dude props for even hosting the thing and move on.

and as for all that luck vs skill mess ur talking about. Just stop playing brawl then. easy lol


In short. Just stop talking.

Good job M2K =/

Panda you have amazing commentary =)

anyway

im glad i didn't go to this


lmao

EVIL_Peach18 said:

Inui. Just stop playing brawl then. easy lol

In short. Just stop talking.

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You win, my good sir.
I think I'm done here.

EVIL_Peach18 said:

and as for all that luck vs skill mess ur talking about. Just stop playing brawl then. easy lol

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I'd rather just outskill everyone and keep winning money.

Sadaharu Inui said:

I'd rather just outskill everyone and keep winning money.

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Too bad you're soooo un-LuCKy.

Puffball64 said:

Too bad you're soooo unlucky.

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Well, yeah. I tend to place higher than 3rd in teams when stages that are highly skillbased are involved. 3rd is the lowest Atomsk and I have placed at anything since...August? It's also the first tournament we entered with that garbage stage allowed where we had to play two players that practically masturbate to it.

Congrats to M2K and Ally.

Sadaharu Inui said:

Well, yeah. I tend to place higher than 3rd in teams when stages that are highly skillbased are involved. 3rd is the lowest Atomsk and I have placed at anything since...August? It's also the first tournament we entered with that garbage stage allowed where we had to play two players that practically masturbate to it.

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Go cry some more.

No johns.

Sadaharu Inui said:

Well, yeah. I tend to place higher than 3rd in teams when stages that are highly skillbased are involved. 3rd is the lowest Atomsk and I have placed at anything since...August? It's also the first tournament we entered with that garbage stage allowed where we had to play two players that practically masturbate to it.

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Then why didn't you just win the neutral match and your own CP?

Guys I think we're missing the major point here.

Inui is an open elitist and we should all ignore him for that.
<3


Anyway I'm going to bed. I'm tired.
Night everyone.

Should have known...Is singles still going on? we just got back from Philly

Someone make a results thread...

i agree

ultimately you shouldn't have lost on the first match
or your cp's

so yeah, it's your fault

get *****

mikeHAZE has spoken.

Inui, get *****.

I'm really starting to dislike players from other regions....

Edit: The bad ones. The pro players seem smart and actually understand stuff.

"No johns" is the absolute gayest thing in the Smash community.

Sadaharu Inui said:

I'm only representing myself. I admit to being an elitist douchebag. Most players are far more humble and laid back than I am.

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Perhaps you should take a page out of their playbook...?

Or are you too cool for that?

>_>

Stop *****ing about stage selection, Inui. You got beat, no johns.


Smooth Criminal

This was long and tiring.

And I didn't even go.

Good stuff on bringing back the radio, though. That mess was like listening to a boxing title match. So good.

Smooth Criminal said:

Perhaps you should take a page out of their playbook...?

Or are you too cool for that?

>_>

Stop *****ing about stage selection, Inui. You got beat, no johns.



Smooth Criminal

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well nah i agree stupid stages can lead to inconsistent/luck wins. but the fact remains that they shouldn't have lost on their cp's/neutral lmao


edit: goodnight

No johns doesn't mean you can't justify a lost... it just means deal with it. If you lost, you lost. Do better next time. That doesn't meant you can't say the tourney was not well run or that you didn't agree with choices, but you lost. That's what no johns means. Frankly, I agree with you on most things, too.

Napilopez said:

No johns doesn't mean you can't justify a lost... it just means deal with it. If you lost, you lost. Do better next time. That doesn't meant you can't say the tourney was not well run or that you didn't agree with choices, but you lost. That's what no johns means. Frankly, I agree with you on most things, too.

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More or less this. But if you're going in to a region that has a CP set that is different from yours, you should probably use that set instead of the one that your region uses in regards to preparation. Yes, that even includes dumb stages like Norfair.

See? I don't totally disagree with you, Inui. I personally think Norfair is pretty lame and contributes to the luck/inconsistency win-streak Mike Haze was talking about. But *****ing about the stage being the reason for your loss is futile. The fact of the matter is that you lost. Next time, **** harder. If Norfair isn't banned in this region after this (fiasco), then squeeze in some practice on it. Learn about the lame-*** nuances of the stage and the lava hazards. Go to any region that has this stage on CP and **** 'em. You and Atomsk seem to do a pretty **** good job of that.

>_>

Hopefully they ban it, though.

Smooth Criminal

Game sucks period!

I say the same...though we still play it faithfully...

Like I always say, "If I have to play something, might as well be good at it"...

D1 said:

Game sucks period!

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...

I rofl'ed.

<3 D1

Smooth Criminal

D1 said:

Game sucks period!

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lol D1 finally comes back to the darkside.

::Sigh::

I wish people would just move on with this game and adapt to how it is played. People can complain all they want about the game, "It sucks, it's boring, CP's are terrible, Rules are horrendous, Metaknight this, Metaknight that.." but really, no matter what you say, your still playing the game.. your still going to tournaments, your still somewhat enjoying yourself. This is saying alot coming from me, I like to ***** and complain.. royally.. but seriously. No Johns. Just deal with it.. and try to enjoy the game until the Next Smash is released.

D1 said:

Game sucks period!

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I <3 you D1!!!

Come home to FL!!!

D1 said:

Game sucks period!

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Melee fo lyfeeeeeee

Everyone should just play Melee and the Bowser Challenge should be an actual event at every tournament.

DJ Nintendo said:

Everyone should just play Melee and the Bowser Challenge should be an actual event at every tournament.

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This, along with To Manly For Brawl and Archers vs Attacker. **** competitive gaming, let's just do weird events from here on out. Like low tier tournaments!

The Chibo Post

As everyone knows, a lot of problems happened this past weekend. While I'm not trying to john about it, I feel an explanation is needed.

First of all, please don't listen to any of the posts on SmashBoards yet. No one knows what happened besides me right now, and this is my first chance to fully explain it to everyone.

As people could tell, I was VERY sick this entire tournament. I got sick way back on Monday, and it didn't go away. I was coughing every few seconds, and I was loosing my voice, and by the end of the tourney, it's completely gone. I can't speak above a whisper.

We had been expecting around 200 or something, and ended up with nearly 300 people, which is up in the ranks of the largest smash tourneys ever. Unlike other tourneys of this size, this took much longer to start compared to:
-Pound 3 (had pre-paid registration)
-Axis (singles only, not as much competition so seeding was no where near as important/tough to do)

As soon as I noticed how long it was taking for registration and potentially what time we were starting, I immediately sought help. People are still saying I didn't let people help me, which is a complete lie. I worked my crew to death doing a crap load of work, and had an INSANE amount of help mainly from Samurai Panda, AlphaZealot, and Omega Black Mage.

Signups were done with an excel file, which was the only possible way we could do it with having 2 signup stations, and to get it done in any reasonable amount of time as we wouldn't be able to put it in Tio quickly enough with switching between the events, adding people, tracking money, and more. We had a 4-5 person assembly line for signups. Sorry we had so many people.

The biggest problem was for preparing doubles after this. I had to go through the excel signups (all 285 or so entrants) by hand and find everyone, their teammate, and make sure they paid. There were sooo many instances of someone saying their teammates name (real name), but their teammate signed up with a gamertag or vice versa, which made it so we had to recall up tons of people to find out who they were teaming with. In the end though, not a single team was missed, and I'm very glad with having 0 errors dealing with that many entrants.

Next problem, a Wii was stolen. Seriously, THIS **** HAS GOT TO STOP HAPPENING AT TOURNAMENTS. It's been happening a lot recently, and it's **** terrible. This cause a lot of stress, and time trying to deal with the situation.

What I did was for doing pools and what not, I just started my own system on it which takes like 5-10 mins to get it going, then I immediately had other people come help me, which turned out to mainly be OmegaBlackMage on Sat and AlphaZealot on Sunday, but both and others helped out on both days.

Next thing, is I'm tired of how people are all saying they would have run this better. Are there plenty of people that could have had this done better? Most likely, but seriously, trying to deal with crowds this big, etc. It took an hour of yelling at people on Saturday night to get people to leave. People just flat out don't listen to you. It's 100% different from a regional tourney. At a regional it's very easy to know everyone that's there, and you most likely know them from before the tourney as it is and they are people willing to co-operate. Not at nationals for sure. I don't know half the people that were there and they were all just worried about doing their own thing and not listening to the freicken rules.

Yes, the tourney ran later than planned... So have other tourneys though? Why single this out like the only one? Pound 3 running till after 3am (and having to switch venue), Axis running to like 4am or something and dropping doubles, and more. This isn't the first time something like this has happened.

Now perhaps for the main deal... the ending. We realized we would be short, so I asked to get an extension on the venue. The manager, who was like a 20 or something year old foreign student who didn't speak English well at all. He said that the venue was open until 11 for cleaning staff and such, but people had to leave at 10. I asked if we could let the last 15 or so ppl for bracket stay for 10 to 11 and he said he was ok with it as long as everyone else left. We told people, and no one left. 15 minutes later at around 10, the manager told me to start getting people out IMMEDIATELY. We had to start being a little more aggressive with getting people out, so we starting kicking people off friendlies, and turned off the projector, and people FLIPPED. I have never seen such a group of immature-mean-argumentative-pricks in my entire life. Everyone's solution was to ***** and start a freicken riot. The manager told us if they are not out IMMEDIATELY (especially now that they were starting to be un-ruly) or he would call public safety to have them taken out. We told people, they didn't care, so guess what happened... Public safety was called.

During this time the manager went around flat out unplugging everything from the wall without my permission, even after saying the people could be in there for a little longer, and ended up unplugging the TV during the match of ChuDat vs Ally. If people had never rioted in the first place, this whole mess wouldn't have happened. I was EXTREMELY upset at the manager, and immediately went to the office with him to discuss what had happened, and you will all be sure that I will be talking to his boss about what happened, as I am pissed.

Public safety got there and got everyone out. They were all yelling my name trying to get me and since I had all of the prize money on me, they forced me to be escorted out from the venue to my apartment. I couldn't deny this at all. I couldn't even stay at the venue to continue to gather my stuff, so some of my stuff is still there, which I have to go get tomorrow (today) morning when it opens.


so all in all


If people weren't such idiots to start something close to a riot, none of this **** would have happened. Chu's match wouldn't have been unplugged, we would have gotten a lot more of the bracket done at the venue in quicker fashion, and more.


The solution...


I can not even begin to explain how thankful I am for Samurai Panda and how he helped me in this situation. With being escorted away from the tourney, and unable to really talk much on the phone because of my voice, Samurai Panda was able to organize everyone still in the bracket, and brought them to my place and helped to start the tourney back up. And guess what, we even had a big group of people watching all the matches and we had a great time and saw some VERY exciting matches. And if you were only of those riot members threatening me, there is no way I would let you in or anywhere near my apartment, so you continued to hurt yourself even further by starting that whole mess.

I am so thankful for everyone who cared about me in the whole situation trying to help me through everything whether it be helping me run the mess at the end, or sending texts/calling me to make sure I'm ok.

Bottom line though, however much we attempted to save this with almost succeeding, I'm crushed. I'm not running a tournament for a while. It's flat out too much work. I bust my *** for months for organizing this event, go through hell during the weekend being sick while running it, and this happens unfortunately and now everyone hates me. It's not worth it. I didn't get a single friendly at the venue throughout the entire tourney. It's my first national Brawl tourney, with all of the pros from all over the country, and I couldn't play one **** friendly. Why is it worth it? If you think you can run a national so well Inui, let's see it (since your trash talking comes to mind)

I took all the time to read every single post in this thread (up until yesterday), answered every PM, helped out every person that needed help, filled an endless amount of forms with Drexel for reserving the place, setting up a discount at the hotel, and much more. This is a lot of work.

I would like to give a shoutout again to OBM, AlphaZealot, especially Samurai Panda, GOTM, .com, UltimoDragon, AndyG, and the rest of the ToS members who helped.

I had a lot of help for this tourney and I'm appreciative of everyone who offered to do so.


So tourneys done, and this whole debacle is over thankfully.

If I can think of more to add later I'll post again.
In the meantime, can someone send me a pm about the whole random ike guy thing? I don't know what you guys are talking about.

Dam, all this happened after we left?!

Chibo, I forgot to get a copy of your Brawl... ;[

Dam, all this happened after we left?!

Chibo, I forgot to get a copy of your Brawl... ;[

Its like I told you at the tourney Chibo, if people don't wanna listen, you gotta take the forceful initiative. If its about stopping friendlies to start calling matches and stuff like that, if they don't wanna stop, do the Web2Zone on them. Turn that sh*t off in their faces. I understand thats not really a good idea since its Brawl with the loading times and stuff, but some people you just gotta do it too since they don't listen. If its about people not cooperating, you gotta do what you gotta do. Its whatever though.

Yo Chibo, I feel ya. While things could have gone better, I think thats always the case, and it was your first national tourney. I remember Play N Trade NY and the unexpectedly high turnout, the rude behavior of some of the store folk, it wasn't Alex's fault. And people shouldn't have been making some accusations without hearing your side of the story first. Just learn from this experience, should you hold tourneys again at some point.

BTW, if you saw my Random Ike Guy pic, its not offense to you or anything. It was just a funny idea since RIG was pseudopwning everyone. I'll PM you about him.

DJ Nintendo said:

So yeah, the Bowser Challenge I created was fun. I might take Brawl seriously, not sure though since singles is extremely boring. We'll see.

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don't do this to the people who believe in you.

edit: I just read chibos post and at first I just wanted to say "no johns", but people seriously need to cut him some slack. Only thing he could have done different was mandatory pre-reg and/or have a team of people helping him from the beginning. You can't really do much about getting 50% more people than was expected. And after realizing axis and pound 3 also had their problems you guys really need to stop *****ing.

The community is getting pretty bad now, I don't know if it is because of brawl [every one should blame brawl for this ****, so that game can finally die] but it is really immature to see people actually having a riot, especially when the police were there. I doubt this would have ever happened at a melee tournament.

Chibo the drama will die down don't worry about it. Though I guess you can say alot of people have the right to be angry, but if what you said happened, I think you did the best you could have in the situation. The tournament was ****ed from the very beginning.

see i knew it

people are *******s lol

**** brawl players man can't believe they would do that ****

oh wait i can most of them are like 12 or at least act like it