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Fatmanonice

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I LOL'd. Yeah, I suppose for Smash Bros., it just helps her be distinct from the other princess there. Luigi's not a full-on weirdo in the Mario games, either. :p (...or at least he doesn't normally let on. :x)

She pulled it up from the ground, of course. ....on a flying battleship.


orshefounditinasecretroomleftofthetomatoes

Edit: At least second best cutscene in the game. SHEIK ANGRY. SHEIK PUUUUUUUNCH
I know but I like her personality so much more in the canon Mario games, especially the Paper Mario games where she's usually the smartest character in the game. :laugh: Luigi... is pretty weird in the Mario and Luigi RPGs, I won't lie. He's pretty flamboyant in those games.

Oh and KSS reference FTW! :laugh:
 

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Playing Zen's Pikachu in lag? Fft, that's just awful.
 

Grey Belnades

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Ouch... that hurts.
We try to be active, but seriously. What's wrong with this place not having any activity for a short time?
nothing is wrong with it being quiet but it just seems odd, like going to classes and your the only one there
 

Xivii

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There are three set of rankings in OTL. The Seasonal and Cumulative Rankings are the member rankings of those who have participated in tournaments here in OTL. Both of these rankings are based on a point system taking in the account of two factors: The Placing of an individual in a tournament & The amount of participants in that tournament. The more tournaments an individual places in, the more points they earn and the higher they will be on the rankings.

The Seasonal Rankings reset every 4 months, allowing a fresh start for new players and returning participants.

The Cumulative Rankings total the amount of points earned from each season and is a compiled list of every player who has placed in a tournament.

The Character Rankings is a statistical representation of how well each character has placed in online tournament. This is also based on a point system in which characters used by the top placers in each tournament receive.

Upon completion of a tournament, please post the required results in the Seasonal Rankings thread and the Character Rankings thread. (The Cumulative Rankings is updated in respect to the seasonal Rankings)
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Yeah, Ruk. Join, if you can. But it'll suck. Mario and Ness can't work under lag, so I have to go MK or Ike and play gay.

Too good? Lol @ gimps.
 

SSJ5Goku8932

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It may be everyone watching the Apex Livestream, that is causing this place to slow down.

Time to go back to watching Apex.
 

Xivii

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Joining Online Tournaments


Finding a tournament
Joining an online tournament is simple. Simply browse through the topics for an open tournament. Usually you can tell whether or not a tournament is accepting entrants by the title. A good host will display the amount of free spots left; or if the tourney has begun, which round the tournament is currently in. In the example below, the tournament for singles is already on round 2; however, the Doubles tournament is still accepting entrants.


Shows that 10 out of 16 spots have been filled for doubles. There are 6 available spots left.

Once you have found an open tournament, read through the tournament's description. Make sure you understand the rules and requirement before registering. Some tournaments have special rules so it is important to understand what you are signing up for. Some host also require a minimum post count to enter their tournament. This is to make sure that all the entrants will be active in the tournament and to prevent inactive members from joining. If you do not reach the requirement, but have shown to be active in other tournaments, often the host will allow someone creditable to Vouch for your entrance.

Registering
When entering a tournament, make sure to follow the registration format. The standard format used in the online tournament listings is: User Name/Gamer Tag/Friend Code/Characters. The format varies from host to host. Some host only require your name. Always be sure to check the format before signing up.

Tournament Play

Rounds

Rounds vary in time depending on the tournament. Some tournaments are Live Tournaments, and some are Expanded Tournaments .
  • Live Tournaments- This type of tournament takes up just a few hours (2-5). The host provides a specific time for the participants to head online, play, and finish the tournament. The host usually provides a chat room for this type of tourney for quick and easy communication. Each round generally last about 30 minutes each. When signing up for this type of tournament, make sure you will be available on the set date & time.

  • Expanded Tournaments- The majority of the tournaments in OTL are of this type. These tournaments can take up to weeks or months to complete. Each round varies on the tournament host. They can be set from days to weeks. Generally, host allow up to a week for players to complete their matches. Some tournaments allow just a few days for each round and are usually completed within a couple of weeks.

Brackets
When the tournament begins, the host will post the brackets for the tournament in either the OP (Original Post), or in the 2nd or 3rd post following the OP. Brackets show who plays who during each round and may be posted in various forms: an image, link, or typed.


Contacting your opponent

In a single day Tourney, it is easiest to communicate to your opponent through the chat provided by the host. In a Month Long tourney, however, it is usually required that you contact your opponent by Visitor Messaging (VM) or Private Messaging (PM). When you have made contact with your opponent, set a date and time in which you can both play. When your match is complete, report the score in the tournament thread.

Deadlines

It is very important that you complete your match by the given deadline. If you fail to complete your match by the deadline, the host will decide the winner by either a coin flip or basing off of who played the most active role in attempting to complete the match. Do not wait for your opponent to make first contact. You should always attempt to get your match done asap. In the event that a match is incomplete by the deadline, host will often decide who goes on based on who was the most active. If both players were active, then they will simply decide by a coin toss. In some cases, a host may extend a deadline if opponents had difficulty getting in contact with each other; however, this is not often the case, so it is best that you comply with the original deadline.
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I get a massive headache from playing good people in lag. >_>
Then the power shuts off right while I'm losing to his Lucario. **** wi-fi.
 

Xivii

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Hosting Online Tournaments

Getting Started


Before setting up a tournament, you must first decide what kind of tournament you will be hosting and how it will be ran. Generally, there are three types of tournaments: Singles Tournaments, Doubles Tournaments, and Themed Tournaments. Under each of these includes two further subdivisions: Live Tournaments & Expanded Tournaments. There are also other factors to consider such as how long rounds will be; how many entrants there are; what time the tournament will start and end; etc. When hosting a tournament it's always good to plan and set it up accordingly.


Basic things to include in a tournament thread
  1. Intro- The introduction of the tournament establishes the basics about the tournament- what kind of tournament it is, and general things potential participants need to know about the tournament.

  2. Rules - You should always include the rules of the tournament as well as specific match rules. Match rules generally should include the following:

    A. Scoring (Stock or Time + How Much or How Long)
    B. Time Limit
    C. Items (On or Off)
    D. Sets (Best of 3, Best of 5, etc.)
    E. Banned Tactics/Characters
    F. Legal Stages (Neutral Stages & Counterpick Stages)
    G. How Stages will be chosen

  3. Prize- If there is no prize simply omit this, or mention that there is no prize.

  4. Registration/Entrants- Always provide an entrants list and what format is required to sign up. The standard sign up format is: Username/Gamer Tag/Friend Code/Characters.

  5. Brackets- Once the tournament begins, brackets should be posted for participants to use and find opponents. Often host will reserve and use a second post for the brackets in order to keep things organized and make updates easier.
These are the basic things that you should include in a tournament no matter what type of tournament it is. There are many other things that can be added to spice up the tournament and provide additional information. Host may also provide a chat for participants to communicate with. Example of basic tournament structure.



Standard Tournaments
Standard singles tournaments are the most basic of tournaments. They strictly test skill and knowledge of the game without any extra obstacles and limitations, and are the most likely the ones to have a prize. When hosting a singles tournament it is usually best to set up either as a 16-man or a 32-man tournament. Anything smaller does not contain an adequate amount of players for a tournament, and larger tournaments typically have difficulty filingl up. It's up to the host to decide whether or not the tournament will be double elimination or single elimination. Most players prefer DE.

The standard match rules are:

-3 Stock
-8 Minute Timer
-Items set to "off" and "none"
-Sets are best of 3 matches. Losers Finals, Winners Finals, and Grand Finals are best of 5 matches.
-Stalling of any kind is banned. MK's infinite cape glitch is banned.

Hylian said:
Stage Lists

TOs must move stages from the starter/counterpick into either the starter or counterpick categories and must move stages from counterpick/banned into either the counterpick or banned categories.

Stages in the Starter/Counter and Counter/Banned list did not receive 2/3 majority, indicating no consensus could be reached on the stage.

The SBR Recommended rule list uses the stage striking system. In this system, players take turns striking stages from the starter list until only one remains; these stages are not banned and can be counterpicked later in the set. There must be an odd number of starter stages. There are up to 8 stages available for stages striking under the SBR stage list (4 in starter, 4 in starter/counter). We recommend as a TO that you decide on the ideal number of stages to use for striking at your tournaments (3, 5, 7).

Starter

Battlefield
Final Destination
Smashville
Yoshi's Island

Starter/Counter
Castle Siege
Halberd
Lylat Cruise
Pokémon Stadium 1

Counter
Brinstar
Delfino (moved from S/C)
Frigate Orpheon
Jungle Japes
Pictochat
Pirate Ship
Pokémon Stadium 2
Rainbow Cruise

Counter/Banned

Distant Planet (moved from C)
Green Greens
Luigi's Mansion (moved from C)
Port Town Aero Dive
Yoshi's Island (Pipes) (moved from C)
Norfair (moved from C)

Banned
75m
Big Blue
Bridge of Eldin
Corneria (moved from C)
Flat Zone 2
Green Hill Zone (moved from C)
Hanenbow
Hyrule Temple
Mario Bros.
Mario Circuit (moved from C/B)
Mushroomy Kingdom I
Mushroomy Kingdom II
New Pork City
Onett (moved from C/B)
Rumble Falls
Shadow Moses
Skyworld (moved from C/B)
Spear Pillar
The Summit
Wario Ware
These are the recommend rules made by the SBR. For the complete rule set go here.


Doubles Tournaments

Doubles tournaments are most difficult tournaments to run. They are most successful with an 8-team set up (A total of 16 players). Anymore than that, and the tournament is likely to fail. Single elimination and Double elimination are equally acceptable in doubles tournaments. The standard match rules for DTs are the same as STs. Additional rules include Life Stealing Allowed & Team Attack set to ON.

The standard sign up format for doubles tournament is:

Team Name
Player1/Gamer Tag/Friend Code/Characters
Player2/Gamer Tag/Friend Code/Characters

*Expanded doubles tournaments generally do not succeed in OTL. If you host a doubles tournament it is recommended that you make it live, and have replacements ready in case of no shows. There have been some successful expanded doubles tournaments however.*

Example of a Doubles Tournament



Themed Tournaments
There are an infinite variety of themed tournaments. Some themes limit the characters that can be used, some alter when they can be used, and some change rule sets entirely. When setting up a theme, you want to make sure that the theme is manageable and that it is something people would enjoy. Themes can be separated into two basic categories: general themes and innovative themes.

General Themes

Themes that alter specific match rules; such as stock amount, prohibited characters, and legal stages can be classified as general themes. The majority of tournaments found in OTL fall under this category. Here are just a few types of general themes:

Character Restricting

  • Tier Specific- These types of tournaments only allow characters of a certain tier. They are specially beneficial to those who use lower tier characters as they can avoid fighting 9001 MKs.

  • Dittos- In these tournaments, only one character is allowed, and players play through a series of ditto matches.

  • Series theme/Attribute theme- In these types of tournaments, characters are limited to that of a certain series (i.g: pokemon characters) or of a certain attribute (i.g: characters with swords).

Stage Restricting

Some tournaments require that players play using a special stage list.

Item Tournaments
In these types of tournaments either all items are allowed, or a specific item selection is used. Some examples include:

  • Explosives Only (Bomb-ombs, Motion Sensor Bombs, Sticky Bombs, etc.)
  • Bumpers Only
  • Pokeballs & Assist Trophies



Innovative Themes
These types themes go beyond the concept of a tournament. Hosts design their own original game that is unique from standard tournament structure.

Examples of Innovative themes:
Level Up
[url='http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=251317"]Gym Battle Tournament[/url]
[url='http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=236888"]Perfect World[/url]​



Live Vs Expanded

Live
In live tournaments all players meet at a specific time to play matches. When hosting a live tournament, you should set a date and time that works for everyone. Provide a chat for players to use. This allows for quick updates and communication. Live tournaments are often the most successful in OTL as they are not prolonged and all players are available to play each other at one time.

Example of a Live Tournament


Expanded

Expanded tournaments take course over an extended period of time. As a host it is up to you to decide on appropriate amount of time for each round. Many host allow at least a week for matches to be completed. However, the longer a tournament is prolonged, the more likely it is for it fail. When running an expanded tournament, you should do your best keep it flowing smoothly and as short as possible.

Example of an Expanded Tournament
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Yeah. I'm on a laptop now, so I had reserve power. I can play again, if you guys want.
Good games, Zen. ^^
 

Pr0phetic

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Man I'm having some intense games with Aryman, but i dunno where he went 0.o I almost beat his Oli with D3, and his ROB with Marth, so I'm getting much better. I beat his Falco with Marth, and I'm supposed to be playing his Samus but yea...

More updates later.
 

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Sure. Host it, I need to turn on my Wii.
 

Xivii

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Getting Started

Before setting up a tournament, you must first decide what kind of tournament you will be hosting and how it will be ran. Generally, there are three types of tournaments: Singles Tournaments, Doubles Tournaments, and Themed Tournaments. Under each of these includes two further divisions: Live Tournaments & Expanded Tournaments. There are also other factors to consider such as how long each round will be; how many entrants there are; what time the tournament will start and end; etc. When hosting a tournament it is always beneficial to plan and set it up accordingly. No matter what kind of tournament, there are always a few basic things that you should include.


Basic things you should include in your tournament thread

  1. Intro- The introduction of the tournament establishes the basics about the tournament- what kind of tournament it is, and general things potential participants need to know about the tournament.

  2. Rules - You should always include the rules of the tournament as well as specific match rules. Match rules generally should include the following:

    A. Scoring (Stock or Time + How Much or How Long)
    B. Time Limit
    C. Items (On or Off)
    D. Sets (Best of 3, Best of 5, etc.)
    E. Banned Tactics/Characters
    F. Legal Stages (Neutral Stages & Counterpick Stages)
    G. How Stages will be chosen

  3. Prize- If there is no prize simply omit this, or mention that there is no prize.

  4. Registration/Entrants- Always provide an entrants list and what format is required to sign up. The standard sign up format is: Username/Gamer Tag/Friend Code/Characters.

  5. Brackets- Once the tournament begins, brackets should be posted for participants to use and find opponents. Often host will reserve and use a second post for the brackets in order to keep things organized and make updates easier.
These are the basic things that you should include in a tournament. There are many other items that can be added to spice up the tournament and provide additional information. For example, hosts may choose to provide a chat box for participants to communicate by. Example of basic tournament structure.
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Heartz♥

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FFAs are the best way to play in my opinion. It is playing Smash to the fullest when there are items. You guys play Smash like ****ing Street Fighter and Guilty Gear... >__>
 

Xivii

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Standard Tournaments

Standard singles tournaments are the most basic of tournaments. They strictly test skill and knowledge of the game without any extra obstacles or limitations. When hosting a singles tournament, it is usually best to set it up either as a 16-man or a 32-man tournament. Anything smaller does not contain an adequate amount of players for a tournament, and larger tournaments typically have difficulty filling up. It's up to the host to decide whether or not the tournament will be double elimination or single elimination. Most players prefer DE.

The standard match rules are:

-3 Stock
-8 Minute Timer
-Items set to "off" and "none"
-Sets are best of 3 matches. Losers Finals, Winners Finals, and Grand Finals are best of 5 matches.
-Stalling of any kind is banned. MK's infinite cape glitch is banned.



"Stage Lists

TOs must move stages from the starter/counterpick into either the starter or counterpick categories and must move stages from counterpick/banned into either the counterpick or banned categories.

Stages in the Starter/Counter and Counter/Banned list did not receive 2/3 majority, indicating no consensus could be reached on the stage.

The SBR Recommended rule list uses the stage striking system. In this system, players take turns striking stages from the starter list until only one remains; these stages are not banned and can be counterpicked later in the set. There must be an odd number of starter stages. There are up to 8 stages available for stages striking under the SBR stage list (4 in starter, 4 in starter/counter). We recommend as a TO that you decide on the ideal number of stages to use for striking at your tournaments (3, 5, 7).

Starter

Battlefield
Final Destination
Smashville
Yoshi's Island

Starter/Counter
Castle Siege
Halberd
Lylat Cruise
Pokémon Stadium 1

Counter
Brinstar
Delfino (moved from S/C)
Frigate Orpheon
Jungle Japes
Pictochat
Pirate Ship
Pokémon Stadium 2
Rainbow Cruise

Counter/Banned

Distant Planet (moved from C)
Green Greens
Luigi's Mansion (moved from C)
Port Town Aero Dive
Yoshi's Island (Pipes) (moved from C)
Norfair (moved from C)

Banned
75m
Big Blue
Bridge of Eldin
Corneria (moved from C)
Flat Zone 2
Green Hill Zone (moved from C)
Hanenbow
Hyrule Temple
Mario Bros.
Mario Circuit (moved from C/B)
Mushroomy Kingdom I
Mushroomy Kingdom II
New Pork City
Onett (moved from C/B)
Rumble Falls
Shadow Moses
Skyworld (moved from C/B)
Spear Pillar
The Summit
Wario Ware"
~Quote from Hylian​


These are the recommend rules made by the SBR. For the complete rule set go here.
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We have a red connection. >_>
Booooo.
 

momochuu

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I think the exact opposite of Kasey, lol. >_>
 

Barge

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I absolutely dread items and FFA's
No items, 1v1, thats how I play.
I can't stand anything else >_>
 

Heartz♥

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Everyone is gay for Bridget.

All I am saying is that people are trying to make Smash like the generic fighter. Smash isn't Smash without items and Free-for-All battles on wacky stages. The whole 1v1, no items, 3 stock on Final Destination is lame as hell. It's a waste of a game. People have forgotten the definition of F.U.N in multiplayer gaming.
 

Barge

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You can't define FUN as one way of playing, Heartz.
Its all a matter of opinion, maybe some people hate FFA's?

I'd much rather do 1v1's no items, final destination then items, ffa, 75m, 2 minute timer >_>
 

Heartz♥

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The problem I find is that people just want to win win WIN, so they want to keep rules simple and at a minimum. People get so caught up in competition that they spend their life savings going to live tourneys they are just going to lose in. And even if they win, all they get out of it is online popularity.

And when people can't win, they give up on the game. Just like that. I've seen it happen. People stopped playing Brawl when I've beaten them before, online or offline. It's sad.

I understand what you mean, Barge, but if you hate FFAs, then Smash isn't really your "ultimate" game.
 
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