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Well, there is a new thread that will be CONSISTENTLY UPDATED(I hope), so go there.

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Just a moment ago I was gathering a tiny bit of frame data for Kirby for the mod I hopefully will make, and seeing how I'm probably going to have to gather some hitbox data in order to change a few of the moves, I figured I might start on Pika as well. It'll be my first time doing so, but it doesn't sound THAT complicated. Does anyone have the code so I can make another GCT?
 
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BigSharkz already tried resizing Pikachu. He said that whenever Pichu landed on the ground or did a smash attack, Pichu would return to normal size. :/
 
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I'm working on BigSharkZ's Pichu texture with him. I'm adding hearts as a female tertiary sexual characteristic.
 
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I really hope it works. Resizing body parts seems like the easiest way to make Pichu, Baby Mario, Bowser Jr., etc. actually playable, and it made me sad to know the first attempt didn't quite work.
 
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It's definitely possible to remake every clone exactly as they were in Melee, but I don't think that's what most of the hackers are going for. The one working on Doc is actually making him very different from his Melee incarnation, and Roy is still much more like Brawl Marth than Melee Roy.
 
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Wander said:
and Roy is still much more like Brawl Marth than Melee Roy.
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See, the only problem with Melee Roy, was that he sucked.
I'd say he's inbetween Brawl Marth and Melee Roy, but this isn't the right thread to discuss that. But yeah, I don't think the hackers are aiming to keep bad characters bad.
*looks at Low-Tier Roy and Pichu at the bottom of Bottom Tier*
 
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of course theyre not gonna make them suck! there made for brawl+ where characters are toned out and balanced
 
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Even though there are more reverts, they seem to be occurring in less areas and are active for a lesser period of time.

I will release my code revision of Pichu, and my texture edit from BSZ's original.
 
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Luckily for me I have Melee as well, so I can just pop it in when I want some good ol nostalgia. I remember spending so much time on that game. It probably is my most played game ever, possibly tied with Pokemon Red.

So...how long to the reverts last? Will there be more fixes in the future?
 
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Slashy said:
Even though there are more reverts, they seem to be occurring in less areas and are active for a lesser period of time.

I will release my code revision of Pichu, and my texture edit from BSZ's original.
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Wow, great job Slashy!
 
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superyoshi888 said:
Luckily for me I have Melee as well, so I can just pop it in when I want some good ol nostalgia. I remember spending so much time on that game. It probably is my most played game ever, possibly tied with Pokemon Red.

So...how long to the reverts last? Will there be more fixes in the future?
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I'm going to go ahead and release what I made so far. It includes my revision of BigSharkZ's texture for Pichu, a revised version of BigSharkZ's original, and a premade GCT file including the Snapshot loader.

http://www.filezzz.com/download/128264/Pichu.zip.html


Here is the size mod I made for Pichu
Code: 
Pichu
28708D68 00FF0800
48000000 805A9360
DE000000 80009380
140000E4 3F335953
140000F0 3F335953
140000FC 3F335953
14000108 3F335953
14000180 3F8C5953
140001A4 3F8C5953
140001B0 3F8C5953
140001C8 3F8C5953
140001D4 3F8C5953
14000018 3F735953
14000024 3F735953
14000030 3F735953
1400003C 3F735953
14000054 3F595953
1400009C 3F595953
14000090 3F595953
14000060 3F595953
140000A8 3F595953
140000D8 3F595953
1400006C 3F595953
140000B4 3F595953
14000048 3F595953
14000234 3F595953
1400018C 3F595953
140000CC 3F595953
1400000C 3F595953
14000000 3F595953
14000228 3F665953
14000204 3F665953
140001E0 3F665953
140002EC 3F665953
140000F8 3F665953
1400012C 3F665953
14000138 3F665953
14000144 3F665953
14000150 3F665953
14000174 3F665953
E0000000 80008000
(These are estimates for revert times)
Code: 
-Up Smash: after the first two frames of the animation
-Down Strong Attack:   (only the tail changes size)
-Dash start: 3-5 frames (dash dancing is not recommended because of this)
-Dash end (sometimes): 1-2 frames
-Down smash
-Charging moves: after first 2 frames
-Dash Attack
-Back Air
-Up Throw: (revert ends two frames early)
-Down Throw: (revert ends one frame early)
-Fall special land
-Down taunt: (revert ends one frame early)

Changes from BigSharkZ's Original:
Code: 
-Fixed error with ear texture which caused a black line on the face
-Completely different size modification from BigSharkZ's, less changes were made to certain areas and I changed values on the offset list that had no information about them. This provided a more similar body.
-Error on NORMAL landing animation fixed
-Presumably less revert time
-Tertiary Sexual Characteristics
-Fixed up strong attack
 
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Wow, nice work, Slashy! *downloads*
Now if only we could get the frame data on Pikachu's moves....
 
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Rudra said:
Wow, nice work, Slashy! *downloads*
Now if only we could get the frame data on Pikachu's moves....
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Frame data isn't the problem. That can be easily collected using codes.

It's the hitbox data which requires the use of a USB Gecko--which the WBR has only a few of and are busy or out of commission right now--that is the problem.
 
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maybe ask other hackers like on Wiird or GSCentral.......
anyways any1 have pics to wat pichu looks like?
 
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storm92 said:
Frame data isn't the problem. That can be easily collected using codes.

It's the hitbox data which requires the use of a USB Gecko--which the WBR has only a few of and are busy or out of commission right now--that is the problem.
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Ah, my mistake.
 
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Ah, my mistake.
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Its all good.
Anyways, the first things I can do are messing with the SH height/fall speed to make Pichu a more SHFFL-based character like he was in Melee, and then look into some frame speed mods.
What are some moves we would want sped up/changed?
 
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Don't forget shorter double jump for epic SHFFL-esque QAC. You still don't have any input on my ideas, Storm? I like PM'd you twice, with no response.
 
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So wait...does this revised Pichu ever actually turn back into normal sized Pika during battle, or is that totally cleared up? I don't quite get the changelist.
 
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5ive said:
Don't forget shorter double jump for epic SHFFL-esque QAC. You still don't have any input on my ideas, Storm? I like PM'd you twice, with no response.
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>_> I could've sworn I responded...
I like your ideas, I'm definitely going to be using them as a basis for when I can edit the hitboxes and such, as the majority were in the same area as my own thoughts.

Do you have AIM? Much easier to correspond that way.
 
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@Slashy

Do not edit the legs, otherwise that will be the result. You have to edit the upper/lower legs and feet.
 
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@Slashy

It always works for me. I don't edit the legs but I edit the lower legs, like for Baby Mario.
 
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so I still haven't played melee. if you guys do finish this, props 2 yall. lol. faaaaiiiiiiiiiiil
 
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You people are doing Pichu, Doc Mario, and Roy why not do Mewtwo two that way the Fallen Four would be in brawl so they wouldn't really be fallen.
 
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You people are doing Pichu, Doc Mario, and Roy why not do Mewtwo two that way the Fallen Four would be in brawl so they wouldn't really be fallen.
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Mewtwo? That would be impossible. We have already model haacked Mewtwo in the game (thanks BigSharkZ, i think) and used textures for him. However, Mewtwo is incredibly different from Lucario. The best that can be done is to make Lucario look very similar to Mewtwo. Not much else.
 
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