Make Your Move 6 - Nothing Gold can Stay

That was a much needed improvement. I'm liking it, though it just feels a bit askew. Maybe it's just me.

I might actually make something this time.

Okay, so I have a few things I want to mention before I start commenting on what's been posted so far.

1) I don't think you guys understand the goal of putting a link-up space at the beginning of the thread. You want people to scroll down on the first page and notice it immediately, new people who are just getting into MYM and reading the first page. Putting your link-up space on page 3 is just as useless as putting it on page 93; better edit an older post than take up space in the thread.

2)

To many here *MW*, organization means just as much as the content of the set itself.

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I don't believe Warlord cares about or pays much attention to his organization, although he has gotten better at it lately. Maybe Ocon, Junahu, Daddy or myself would be better examples?

3) Let's get some commenting going, people!

Tryclyde is generally pretty cool. Snake-based movesets are interesting and the hydra mechanic is pretty fitting and not too convoluted - although you wouldn't know it from the way you describe it. From head to toe, this moveset is incredibly wordy and overdetailed. You're still not really using those semicolons, and have annoying run-on sentences like "However, if you press the A Button again, Tryclyde will strike forward powerfully, having average range, like the apple, and moderate priority", just for a mild example I picked out at random; you seem a bit hung up over small details. I don't like most of the attacks that necessitate pictures, since, of course, they're quasi-prop attacks. And you still have a few of those alliterated na- oh, I see.

In the plus column, there's an awful lot of creativity in this moveset, and your overall playstyle is more distinct here than ever before. I've never understood why you people write "Playing Against" sections - aren't you trying to promote your character, not show off why they're weak? Ditto the match-up sections; figuring that kind of thing out properly needs some real competitive knowledge. Oh well, whatever floats your boats. NAMING AN ICON? BLASPHEMY!

So even though I've nitpicked a lot, it was a good read and a good set that deserves a few more comments.

Envy's pretty good, although I'm not quite enthralled. Dash Attack is reused from Gluttony! HACKS! I like the zombie submechanic a lot - especially Cannibalize, genius attack - but the whole parasite thing is a bit obscurely explained and doesn't really pique my interest. The throws, on the other hand, are all excellent. The codec is hilarious mostly because it seems like you've finally run out of ideas and just gave up on trying to make witty ones. XD

On the whole, it's a cool set, and I feel as though the zombie mechanic should have been the spotlight. My favorite of yours is still Skarmory, I think.

I'll read and comment the others later, this took forever for some reason.

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leafbarrett said:

Roserade

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It looks okay from a glance, I can't read it right now, though. You do need to add some color.

Attack: 6
Lelouch doesn't have alot of KO moves. His main KO move involves using his Geass, and that's his, pretty much, only strong move. However, he still can rack up damage decently, and his Geass KO move is powerful.
Running speed: 5.5
Unfortunately for Lelouch, he's not exactly the athletic type. He runs pretty much as fast as Ike.

(Note: He still runs perfectly no problem. He doesn't stop in the middle of his tracks. I just wanted to show this picture, cause i find it funny =P.
Attack speed: 7.5
Fortunately, he attacks fast. He has only little lag on his attacks...mostly.
Range: 8
And he has pretty good range too. Just watch out though as his long range attacks force him to leave himself right open.
Weight: 4
Jumps: 5
Not a good jumper, but not bad either.
Height: 7.5
He's a tall Brittanian student. He's about as tall as Marth.
Falling speed: 7
Lelouch can be light.
Wall Jump: No
Again, not the athletic type.
Wall Cling: No
Glide: No


Down Special -----> Zero Requiem


Please refer to the special ability, "The hatred gathered," for full details.

First of all, there is 2 conditions. 1 is that Lelouch must not be wearing his Zero mask on. Another is that Lelouch must have some anger drawn on to him. Okay, here is what happens. Lelouch will say, "Suzaku!!" All of a sudden, from the last episode of Code Geass, Suzaku, dressed up as Zero, will fall down from the sky. Lelouch will then standstill where ever he is, and you will control, temporaly, Suzaku as Zero. Unfortunately, he is only a Marth clone, with a sword that has a bit more range, and a bit more power. You must quickly run to where ever Lelouch is, and perform a stab to him (AKA, neutral B button). If Lelouch gets hit by the opponent, this move will fail, and 5 hatred points will be lost.

If you do manage to stab him, Lelouch will then collaspe on the ground and say to Suzaku, "You will live on...always wearing that mask and fighting as a knight for justice." You will then control Zero, AKA Suzaku AKA Marth clone, depending on how long the hatred is and the opponent, believing Zero to be their savior, will cheer for him. The beginning hatred for Lelouch is very small right? So, you can use Zero Suzaku for 10 seconds and not only that, the opponent will cheer, "Zero!! Zero! Zero!!" no matter what the opponent's controller does for 10 seconds, therefore the opponent will not be able to use the attack button against their savior Zero, until time is up. They are still free to run away though. For each hatred level, the longer it takes effect is an added 5 extra seconds for each level. However, when the hatred level is at very high, you may control as Suzaku Zero for as long as you want.

If you ever want to quit, just press the down B button again, and Lelouch's dead body will resurrect from the dead (he just rises back up from where he was stabbed >.>). However, even though when times runs out, Lelouch will come back from the dead anyway, since Lelouch was stabbed pretty bad, he'll have been suffered a total 25% damage. Also note that if Suzaku Zero gets K.O.ed, the stock loss will still count, and you'll be forced to play as Lelouch again. If the opponent gets K.O.ed while they're still cheering for Zero, they'll stop cheering as soon as they're K.O.ed and they'll be able to fight back now. Suzaku Zero and Lelouch share the same damage percentages (though the 25% damage doesn't happen until Lelouch is brought back to life). Be careful.

Neutral Special -----> Geass


Lelouch motions his arms around, and while he does, he says, "I, Lelouch Vi Brittania, command you..." All of a sudden, a small red symbol will fly out of Lelouch's eye, and travel straight forward. That is the Geass ladies and gentlemen. It takes about a whole second for the Geass to fly out of Lelouch's eye. Now for something hard to do. First of all, the opponent must be on the same platform/level as Lelouch is, or otherwise, the Geass will miss the opponent. Second of all, Lelouch requires direct eye contact with the opponent. Therefore, as the Geass symbol flies straight forward, it must hit the opponent's head for it to work at all (the opponent can easily dodge the Geass by ducking, though the Geass will still effect opponents that are short like Pikachu and Kirby, as long as they're on the same platform). Finally, the opponent must be in a 4 small stage builder block range.

There are various Geass commands the Lelouch can use. It all depends on what you do AFTER the Geass has hit the opponent. This involves moving the control stick, or pressing a certain button. However, you must note that you only have 2 seconds to decide what you wanna do. Otherwise, the opponent will break out of the Geass control. Also note that Lelouch may only use his Geass to the opponent once. However, he may still use his Geass as many time as he wants to his other opponents, and as soon as THAT opponent loses a stock, he can use his Geass on them again. And one final rule: If you abuse your Geass by using it over 5 times a stock, the Geass will lose control, and Lelouch will be forced to use it, with no control over it, every 20 seconds. Therefore, when he uses it, he'll be left wide open for a whole second. Anyway, here are the commands:

Pressing B button again: "...Die!!!"
His opponent will laugh a little bit, and, if they can talk, say, "HAPPILY YOUR HIGHNESS!!!!" All of a sudden, they will take a bomb from there pocket, slam it to the ground, and will be sent flying high sky. This is Lelouch's main KO move. This will cause the opponent to have 28% damage with great knock back. I would suggest using it when Lelouch has racked up enough damage (at least 80-100%). Also, make sure you're not in a 1 small stage builder block blast radius, or otherwise Lelouch will be sent flying too. As soon as they slam the bomb to ground, the opponent will regain control over themselves.

A Button: "Hand it over!!!"
This use may be only good for matches with items on, but there are still some other uses to it. The opponent will run to Lelouch, and hand over what ever item they have to Lelouch (it can be a baseball bat, a pokeball, or something like that). This also counts for smash balls. If the opponent has broken a smash ball and Lelouch uses this command, the opponent will lose the smashball, and Lelouch will then be able to use his final smash. Of course, if the opponent does not have an item with them, they will not give Lelouch anything. Instead, they'll question themselves, "..What item?" and be confused for 3 seconds, letting Lelouch give an opportunity to attack. If the opponent does not have an item, Lelouch is able to use his Geass on them again.

Control stick upwards: "Jump!!"
The opponent will jump up and down for 12 seconds of the current stock. This may seem like a bad command, as when the opponent jumps, Lelouch can't land a clear hit. However, this also means that the opponent can't land a clear hit either, always jumping up and down. This can also be use to screw up the opponents recovery, as they may waste there second jump too.

Control stick downwards: "Give me 20 push ups!!!!"
The opponent will go down to the ground and...start doing push ups. They will do 1 pushup for every half a second, so that's 10 seconds for the opponent to finish doing there pushups. The opponent must finish there pushups before regaining control again. Otherwise...start doing pushing up boy! Lelouch can use this to attack the opponent, though since the opponent is on the ground, he can't use high attacks or anything.

Control stick forward: "Kill everyone here!!!"
This may seem like a useless move when he's facing the opponent by himself, but still, the opponent will say, "Yes your highness!!!" and will look around the stage for opponents. The opponent will not attack Lelouch, but they will go to both ends of the stage twice, looking for opponents. If they do find other opponents in a 4 way match, the Geass controlled opponent will...well attack to KO them.

Control stick backwards: "Do not avoid me!!!"
The opponent will be unable to dodge, block or roll out of the way when Lelouch uses this Geass command for 15 seconds of the opponent's current stock. This is a very good use, as Lelouch can use this to ensure a clear hit on the opponent without them doing anything funny. The opponent can still jump to dodge however.

Side special -----> C.C.

Lelouch's partner C.C., helps Lelouch in certain conditions. It takes about a 2 second wait for C.C. to magically appear in front of Lelouch, which obviously takes time. I suggest using it when you're at a safe place. Fortunately, C.C. may be called out at and time during that match, but C.C. only has 4 different abilities, and what she chooses to help you with depends on the condition. Any what she can do is:

1. If Lelouch is about to be attacked by a projectile, C.C. will come right in front of Lelouch, say, "He mustn't die!!!" C.C. will then block the attack, and Lelouch will be safe from the projectile.

2. If Lelouch has a higher damage percentage than his opponent, and his opponent is about to launch a smash attack, C.C. will dress up as Zero, appear behind the opponent, and fall off the stage. This will cause the opponent to immediately stop there smash attack, be distracted for 3 seconds, giving Lelouch a chance to attack them.

3. If Lelouch has his Geass out of control, C.C. will give Lelouch a special lens that will block his Geass. Unfortunately, this means that Lelouch will not be able to use Geass for the remainer of his stock. You better use it before you get these lens.

4. If Lelouch has none of the above conditions, C.C. will say to Lelouch, "Boy where is my Pizza?" C.C. then lets out a raspberry, and disappears. Lelouch just got owned.

Up special -----> Nightmare frame


Lelouch will let out a whistle, and his Nightmare frame known as the "Shinkiro," will appear from the bottem of the stage and below Lelouch. It will then fly up, pick up Lelouch, and send him upwards about 6-8 stage builder blocks (depending, and it controls ROB's up special.) If you press the Up B button again, Lelouch will hop into the Shinkiro and pilot it.

While Lelouch is in the Shinkiro, whatever harm is done to it will still hurt Lelouch too (and will still cause knockback to the Shinkiro), but the stats are know the same as ROB. It's jumps are great, with it reaching 5 stage builder blocks a jump. While in the Shinkiro, he may only stay in there for 15 seconds, and once that time is up, he may only stay use again after 20 seconds. It's best not to pilot it in case you need it for a recovery, but if you must pilot it, it has 2 different moves:

A button: Lelouch will activate it's Absolute defense mechanism. It takes about 2 seconds for it to come out, but with it, it can block any attack in front of it, and the shield won't drain. Of course, the back is still exposed.

B button: The Shinkiro will let out a power beam attack from it's chest, that deals off about 25% damage, and nice knockback. However, it's a thin blast, so it can easily be ducked. The speed for the attack is the beginning of Captain Falcon's neutral B, and the ending lag of Ike's forward smash. It travels as far as it wants! This is a very useful move for the Shinkiro, and it's only attack. Be careful when using it.

Once the Shinkiro has suffered 40% damage, it will fly away, and Lelouch will fall out of it. Remember, you will have to wait for 10 seconds ONLY if you decide to pilot it. You do not have to wait if you just chose to recover.

Neutral A -----> Cape attack

Lelouch will attack with his cape by throwing it forward, making it swipe forward. He will then kick the opponent with a foot forward, and end it off by quickly bring his gun out, and firing one bullet at them. The first 2 hits don't really do alot of damage (about 3-4% damage) and all they do is cause the a flinch, but the gun shot can deal off about 5% damage with little knockback. The range for the first 2 attacks only reaches what's in front of Lelouch, but the gun shot can reach up to 2.5 small stage builder blocks. The hit box are Lelouch's cape for the first hit, his foot for the second hit, and the bullet for the final hit. There is hardly any beginning lag, and a bit of ending lag. Good for racking up damage, and KOing at around 400% damage (yeah, the bullet is THAT weak), but otherwise, not a really good move.

Side tilt -----> Birds of justice

Lelouch lifts his cape and suddenly, 2 light red pigeon birds start flying forward to the opponent. If one of them hit the opponent, it causes about 5-6% damage with little knockback. They fly forward about 3.5 stage builder blocks forward, and go about as fast as Samus' neutral B. The hitboxs are all around the red birds flying. Nothing else. There is the about the beginning lag of Link's side tilt, and the ending lag of Marth's neutral B. This is a good surprise projectile to attack with if Lelouch doesn't have enough time to use his Geass or anything as it is one of Lelouch's faster projectile moves (and his only ones.) The only problem is that Lelouch is left wide open when he's releasing the birds.

Down tilt -----> Gun threaten

Lelouch will aim....a gun at his head? Lelouch is probably trying to bluff his way out of a situation, as the opponent must REALLY want to KO Lelouch. If he is hit while in this pose, he will counter the opponent, let out a "gotcha!!" and fire the gun at the opponent, dealing off 8-10% damage with little knockback. Lelouch will stay in the pose for about 2 seconds, and will then put his gun away.

You press the down tilt button again while he's in the pose, Lelouch will quickly fire the gun downwards diagonally dealing off about 6-8% damage. It's range is only what's right in front of Lelouch, and it has a bit of lag at the beginning, but hardly any lag at the end however. It's best sticking with the recovery, but if you do think that the opponent is NOT going to attack you, it's wise to use this attack.

Up tilt -----> Chess piece throw

Lelouch will throw a chess piece upwards (looking closely, it's a king) about 2 small stage builder blocks, and while it's in the air, Lelouch will say, "If the king doesn't lead, how do you expect his subordinates to follow?" The entire animation is about 1 and half second. The hitbox is small and it's only the king chess piece that was thrown upwards. It deals off about a small 6-7% damage with little knockback unfortunately. While the chess piece is out of Lelouch's hands, he has super armor frames. If Lelouch (somehow at 500% damage or something o.o) manages to KO an opponent with this attack, Lelouch will say, "Checkmate," at the end.

Dash attack -----> Speeding Lulu

Lelouch will speed quickly forward about 1.5 small stage builder blocks (it looks like he's sliding) and any opponent in the way will look like they've just been hit a lot of times, and will suffer 10-12% damage, with ok knockback. This is one of Lelouch's better moves. It's speed has only very little lag at the beginning, and only a bit of ending lag. As he is using this move, he can destroy items like the capsule or crate without being hurt with a maybe explosion inside of them. Of course, the price for this move is that Lelouch loses an hatred level point every time he uses this move.


Side smash -----> The gunshot kill

Lelouch will bring out his gun, and automatically shoot 2 gun shots forward. Each gun shot will do about 5% damage each, with only a flinch. The range for the gun bullet will reach only 2 small stage builder blocks forward. The gun shots can easily be avoidable, considering they only travel the speed of Lucario's neutral B projectile. There is hardly any lag the beginning, and the ending lag is small. However...that's not the real forward smash.

Lelouch will then spin his gun, and THIS part of the move is chargable. Lelouch will then pull the trigger as hard as he can, and off the speeding bullet goes. This time, the bullet travels the speed of Link's arrows. It reaches about 3 small stage builder blocks forward. The damage it causes is around 7-8% damage with little knockback uncharged, and 11-12% damage with nice knockback fully charged. For course, while it may be a bit easier to hit the opponent with this attack then the previous bullets, it's still dodgable to the opponent.

Up Smash -----> Fabulous!!!

Lelouch puts his hand behind his cape, and that is his charging stance. He will then release his charge, swing his arms forward upwards diagonally, and it will leave behind a beautiful rainbow. Fabulously. Unlike the arm wave upwards, the rainbow will stay in it's place for 2 seconds, before it disappears. Anyway who, the rainbow will do 8% damage if anyone touches it. Uncharged, the arm swing that Lelouch does will cause 13% damage, and ok knockback upwards diagonally, while fully charged, this attack does 17-18% damage with nice knockback. The range for this move is about 1 small stage builder blocks up diagonally, but there it a rainbow that follows it. It has decent range overall. The speed for this move is about the beginning lag of Ike's side tilt and the ending lag of Link's forward smash.

Down Smash -----> Self suicide bomb

Lelouch will lift up his cape, and show that to his opponent that his body has a bomb that will explode if it hits. Lelouch's move in the last episode of the first season. If the opponent does attack Lelouch's bomb, it will explode, causing Lelouch 11% damage, no matter what the charge, and to his opponent, 15% damage with ok knockback uncharged, and 18% damage with nice knockback fully charged. However, for the bomb to explode, the opponent must do an attack that deals at least 10-15% damage, so just one blast from Fox's blaster = No. The bomb's explosion will cover a whole 2.5 stage builder blocks in total around Lelouch. It takes about half a second for Lelouch to reveal the bomb, and another half to regain control. Lelouch will not suffer any knockback, and rather, he will collaspe to the ground. This is a very dangerous move, as it can hurt Lelouch badly. I suggest only using this move when the opponent is at a high percentage, and yeah.


Neutral Aerial -----> Using Geass on the Smash Bros camera man?

Lelouch will use his Geass to the front of the screen, aiming it at the Smash Bros. camera man? Lelouch will command, "Close up on me!!!" The camera will then close up on Lelouch..and that's it? However, if anyone is outside of the camera range (which is about half a stage builder block on each side of Lelouch), they'll suffer about 1% damage a second. It takes about a whole second and a half for the camera to zoom him on Lelouch. This may seem kind of ridiculous for a move, but all's fair in love, fun and war right? The camera will zoom in Lelouch for about 3-4 seconds, and then it will zoom out again. This can be used to cause some confusion for player opponents, and can cause opponents recover in the wrong direction.

Forward Aerial -----> Fake out Geass

Lelouch will do the same animation as his Geass attack, only instead, he's not actually using his Geass. He will then immediately bring out his gun, and fire it straight forward at the opponent hopefully. This attack will deal off about 12% damage with ok knockback. This move has average beginning lag, and the ending lag of Ike's forward smash. The bullet will reach about 3.5 small stage builder blocks straight forward. This move can be used to trick people that he's about to use his Geass power, but he's really going to attack straight forward!!! Of course, it takes a while to bring his gun out, so be careful.

Backwards Aerial -----> A mirror and a Geass

Lelouch will quickly turn around, and bring out a mirror from his pocket. He will go quickly as possible to use his Geass power on himself. He will then use Geass to command himself, "Forget the pain!!!" It takes a whole 3 seconds for this to happen. This will cause Lelouch to be healed up by 15% damage. While this move may be a healing experience, Lelouch may only use this move every 20 seconds. After all, the Geass rule counts towards him too. If Lelouch is interrupted while he's using this move, the mirror Lelouch is holding will break, causing 5% damage to himself AND to the opponent. Geez, how fragile is that mirror?

Downwards Aerial -----> Aerial kidnapping?

This was done in episode 4 when Lelouch manages to escape with Suzaku. Just watch it. Anyway, Lelouch swings his arms greatly downward to try and grab the opponent. If he does manage to grab the opponent, he will then wrap his cape around his opponent, and the opponent will not be able to escape. You can either press the down aerial button again to throw the opponent down, grounding them with 10% damage, or this can go into an auto grab when you land back on the ground. This move has above average beginning lag, and the ending lag of Ike's forward smash if it misses. The range for Lelouch's arm will reach a whole small stage builder block directly below him. This can also best be used when he is near a pit, where Lelouch can perform, Lelouchcide. Or something like that.

Upwards Aerial -----> Geass to the sky

Lelouch will turn his head upwards, and he will command...the clouds? This may be him trying to use Geass on god...but whatever. His command will be, "Shine brightly on me!!!" If Lelouch manages to do this move without being interrupted for 3 seconds (it's an incredibly laggy move), a sunlight wave will shine directly on Lelouch, and will continue to travel straight downwards on the stage, for about 4 stage builder blocks downwards. Lelouch will not be effected by the waves, other than beautiful visual effects. However, if the opponent somehow touches the sunlight wave, they'll be blinded, not being able to move for 2 seconds, and suffer 10% damage. The sunlight wave disappears in only 1.5 seconds though. So it may not be worth it to spam this move or anything.


Beat down -----> Elbow smash

Lelouch uses his elbow to attack his opponent. He quickly attacks with it, and pulls it back, getting ready to attack with it again. The speed for the beat down is fast, and it deals about 2% damage. A basic beat down attack.

Forward Throw -----> The fatel shot

Lelouch kicks his opponent forward, and brings out his gun quickly. He then lets out 1 single bullet shot forward. This move was done in episode 23 i believe? Anyway, the bullet will do about 10% damage, with okay knockback. The opponent looks like they were just shot pretty bad, and it looks like they are dead. Scary.

Backwards Throw -----> Chess control

Lelouch will throw his opponent behind him, and bring out a pawn chess piece. He will then motion his pawn as it looks like he was moving forward on a chess board, and all of a sudden, the opponent moves forward just like the chess piece! This is best used near an edge, because as he moves the opponent backwards, it will make the opponent helpless in the air. I didn't know chess pieces had so much power. O.o

Upwards Throw -----> ...Choke hold?

Lelouch will grab his opponent by the throat, and start squeezing his hands. He will then squeeze so hard, that it will cause the opponent to fly diagonally upwards. What is he? Darth Vader? Anyway, this will cause about 11% damage, with ok knockback. Not a good move, but not a bad one either. Alright?

Downwards Throw -----> Stomp

Lelouch will throw his opponent to the ground, and he will stomp on them for about 3 times, and then he'll stop. This move will cause no knockback, but about 13% damage. Lelouch seems cowardly in this attack. I mean, he's stomping opponents when they're down on the ground? What's up with that?


The Code (AKA: Fan Theory "Lelouch is still alive!!!")

If Lelouch is wearing his Zero mask, he will immediately take it off when he uses his final smash. Lelouch will let out, "I am Zero!!! The man that creates miracles!!!!" Lelouch will then attempt to use his Geass at the sky, probably aiming his Geass...at god? Anyway, all of a sudden, Lelouch's left eye will turn into a Geass as well, and now, he has 2 eyes with the Geass. He may now use Geass as much as he wants to the opponent, without losing control over it. Unfortunately, this means his side special will not be able to work anymore. Nevertheless, you probably weren't going to use it anyway. Why? Because with this special Geass, and having used it against god (no offense to those who believe in god. It's just a moveset people), Lelouch is now...immortal! He is invincible for the next 20 seconds he uses this final smash, and if he falls off the stage by accident or something, he will not lose a stock. Lelouch can also use his down special without getting hurt. As soon as his final smash is over within 20 seconds, Lelouch's Geass power will return to normal, and he will lose his immortality. That is all.


Lelouch Vi Brittania is not known for directly going out to the battlefield and fighting the opponent. He's known for being the commander of the Black Knights, but this moveset if for Lelouch/Zero. Not the entire rebellion squad is it? Anyway, let's go on and talk about Lelouch.

Unfortunately for Lelouch, he's not the athletic type at his high school. He has only an average running speed and he's not exactly a powerful opponent. However, Lelouch is good at range combat, using his projectile moves to attack. Lelouch, though not good at sports, is a freaking genius. He's skilled at far range, and okay at close range. He doesn't really have any close range good KO moves, but his up smash, if it hits properly, can send opponents flying at around 90-140% damage.

Let's start with his good things. A good Lelouch player should have his Zero mask on (by pressing the side taunt) on most times in the early rounds. This will cause him to be a slight bit more powerful, and a bit more faster too. Lelouch should try to get as close as possible to his opponent without getting hurt, and stay in that position. A couple of his basic attacks, like his side tilt and side smash, can do all the moving for Lelouch. However, as soon as he performs one of those attacks, he should get away immediately to avoid any counter attacks (in case those attacks fail to hit or something). Lelouch's down special is a special one. I suggest only using it when Lelouch had recently attacked the opponent a lot with the attack. I suggest the forward smash, as it has the opportunity to land an easy 3 hits.

Lelouch also has more than enough counter attack moves to make opponents stay away. There is his down tilt, that's basically a counter move. There's also his down smash, which will threaten opponents to stay away from Lelouch. However, you should be warned that Lelouch's bomb can easily be disengaged with a simple projectile. When using the down smash, it's that time to go on offense.

Lelouch should dodge a lot too. Try your best to spot dodge the opponent. Then follow it up with your Geass move!!! That is the best time to use it, without the opponent running away on you. After that, press the B button if the opponent is at a high percentage to go for the kill. If the opponent is not at a high percentage, use one of Lelouch's other moves to make the opponent do something utterly ridiculous (like 20 pushups xD). Note that Geass can only be used to the opponent once. Be careful when using it. Decide what you want to do with it.

Lelouch's aerials are nothing special. Against a CPU, kind of useless sort of. Against a player, great. Lelouch's neutral aerial can cause them to be confused when recovering. Also, his backwards aerial is vital if Lelouch needs to be recovered by a couple of percentages. His up aerial, while laggy, is a great ranged attack, that suns out the opponent. Bad pun i know, but not the point. His downwards aerial, as long as Lelouch has an extra stock, can be used for the finishing blow on the opponent easily...if you can grab them that is.

For Lelouch's bad defaults, Lelouch has a to wait a whole second before his recovery arrives. Opponents can easily spike him until then. Also, Lelouch doesn't exactly have good jumps, so he's just begging to be juggled around a lot. Finally, Lelouch's main KO move, his Geass is plenty hard to hit with. With the opponent dodging, jumping and crouching all the time, how can Lelouch use this move? It's best just to use his better KO moves, like his up smash and down smash. However, his down smash involves him getting hurt too, and his up smash is kind of hard to hit with.

Lelouch is no easy character to control, but he doesn't go down that easily either. Just prepare to use moves when the time is right, and you should be fine.

Stuff that everyone has in there extras
Up taunt: Lelouch lets out an laugh so evil, that he can't stop laughing for 3 seconds, making it that Lelouch is so easily open if he performs this taunt. Best not to use this taunt if you don't got 3 seconds.

Side Taunt: Lelouch kind of has 2 taunts for his side one. His first is when Lelouch puts on his Zero mask and let's out a, "Time to crush Brittania and bring glory to Japan!!!" His second one is when he slowly takes his mask off, and shifts his eyeballs to the front screen. Lelouch...is staring at you. O_o


Down Taunt: Lelouch says, "The only ones who should kill are those prepared to be killed." Is he saying that he knows and is prepared to be killed anytime, while KOing other opponents?

Victory music: The last 10 seconds of the TV size song, COLORS by flow, AKA the first opening of Code Geass

Classic mode victory music: Continued Story (Code Geass OST)

Victory pose 1: Lelouch says to himself this, "I....destroy the world....and create it....anew..." Lelouch closes his eyes, and looks noble and stuff. Those were his last words before he died in Code Geass.

Victory pose 2: Lelouch motions his hand, uses his Geass power, and says, "Lelouch Vi Brittania commands you...Obey me subjects!! Obey me world!!!" Then the Geass flies to the front screen, and you hear the crowd cheering, "All hail Lelouch!!! All hail Lelouch!!" They keep on cheering forever (till you're ready for the next match of course) and Lelouch points his finger forward, and smiles evilly.


Victory pose 3: Lelouch looks like he still has his Zero mask on. Lelouch slowly takes it off in a cool fashion, stares at it for a second, and quickly shifts his eyes to the front screen. He stares at you...O_o Basically the same
thing as his side taunt.

Lose pose: Lelouch will wear his Zero mask on, and look away from the opponent, appearing to be glaring at the winner and wanting revenge.

Symbol: None other than the Black Knight's symbol


Entrance: It seems like Lelouch is looking to the side. He will turn his body forward, and seemingly use his Geass to the front screen. His below pic should explain things a bit more.


Snake Codec
Snake: This is Snake. We got some guy here with a weird eye power.
Colonal: Watch out Snake. His name is Lelouch Vi Brittania. He has a power called Geass that allows him to bend the will of anyone.

*bit of static*

Lelouch: Yes....And i use this power...to oblitherate Brittania!
Snake: What the-? How the heck do people keep on hacking our channal?
Lelouch: So Snake...tell me something. Why do you choose to fight me?
Snake: Because i have orders to stop you and defeat you...Lelouch.
Lelouch: Very well then....look behind you!
Lelouch seemingly right behind Snake: Lelouch Vi Brittania commands you...Die!!!!
Snake: What the-? NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

Assist trophy

Lelouch's little brother joins the brawl, and he seems to have brought his Geass with him. His Geass is different from Lelouch's however. His Geass can be used to stop time. He will activate his Geass as soon as he is summoned, and in 3 stage builder block range, time will freeze for the opponent (of course, the player that's using Rolo will not be effected at all). They will not be able to move at all for 5 seconds, and that's not all to Rolo's abilities. As soon as he activates his Geass, he will bring out his gun, go up to the frozen opponent, and shoot them with it. There will be no knockback, just 20% damage to the opponent of course. If there was no opponent in range of Rolo, he will not go after the opponent for the kill. If Lelouch was the one that summoned him, he will say at the beginning, "Big brother!! I'll protect you!!"

Event matches

#12: The rebellion attacks!!!
Character: Lelouch (2 stocks)
Assistance: Ike, Link
Opponent: Bowser, Ganondorf, Dedede (One at a time)
Music: All Hail Brittania
Description: Lelouch decides to strike back on the kings of smash. Team up with Ike and Link of the other rebellions, and strike back on Bowser, Ganondorf and Dedede!!!!

#19: Brothers
Character: Lelouch
Opponents: Luigi and Mario
Music: If i was a bird?
Desciption: Lelouch is in a corner where 2 brothers team up on him. Luckly, his brother Rolo is here to save the day. Use the Rolo assist trophy to help you win the match!!! There will only be 1 assist trophy on at a time, and it will always be Rolo. Also, Lelouch is the only one able to use the assist trophy.

#27: Grab it!!
Character: Shiek or Lelouch
Opponent: Shiek or Lelouch
Neutral character: Peach
Desciption: Peach has the star rod!!! Grab it away from her by attacking her or using the Geass power on her!!!!!

Special Make Your Move Event match: Battle of the genius'
Character: Lelouch or Light and Ryuk
Opponent: Lelouch or Light and Ryuk
Description: Finally, the match you've all been waiting for. Choose who do you think is smarter, and brawl!!!

Trophies

Lelouch: Lelouch Lamperouge is the title character and protagonist of the series. He was born as Lelouch vi Britannia, the Eleventh Prince of the Britannian Imperial Family and seventeenth in line for the throne. His father is the Britannian Emperor, Charles zi Britannia, and his mother was Marianne vi Britannia. He was sent to Japan as a political hostage for questioning his father's cold regard for his mother's assassination and the crippling of his blind sister Nunnally. When Britannia invaded, he went into hiding with his sister, taking refuge with the Ashford family. Seven years later, he discovers an enigmatic girl known as C.C., who grants him an ability called Geass, which allows him to command others to behave as he wishes. Seeking to build a better world for his sister, he pursues the destruction of Britannia under the guise of his masked alter-ego Zero.

Suzaku: Suzaku Kururugi is Lelouch's childhood friend and son of Japan's last prime minister, Genbu Kururugi. He is both a secondary protagonist and antagonist of the series, aligned against Zero's Black Knights but nevertheless intent on changing the Britannian Empire for the better. He claims that achieving results by wrong or illegal methods is meaningless, wanting to change Britannia from within. Suzaku is an Honorary Britannian and part of the Britannia army, later becoming the pilot of the experimental Knightmare Frame Lancelot as a member of the R&D Division. He later falls in love with Princess Euphemia, who is murdered by Zero. In the second season, Suzaku is granted a position in the Knights of the Round by the Emperor for his capture of Zero. His title and rank is Knight of Seven. Suzaku desires to become the Knight of One, a status that will allow him to rule Area 11 by his choosing.

C.C.: C.C. is an immortal girl who outwardly appears to be little more than 16 years old. She becomes Lelouch Lamperouge's accomplice when he makes a Geass contract with her. She is willful almost to a fault, usually doing whatever she wants regardless of whether or not it inconveniences others, particularly with Lelouch. She also likes to withhold information, usually telling people just enough to leave them wondering. C.C. has a strong penchant for pizza, especially Pizza Hut's (which sponsors the show in Japan, though the logo is blurred out in the English dub); she constantly orders pizzas to Lelouch's house using his credit card. She also carries around a stuffed toy of "Cheese-kun", the company's mascot in Japan. Her love of pizza is often used for comedic effect, as she was twice willing to risk capture simply to get a piece of a giant pizza being made by the Student Council (which is ruined both times). Both Lelouch and Kallen sometimes refer to her as "Pizza Girl".

Kallen: Kallen Stadtfeld is a Britannian-Eleven girl who goes by her Britannian name when attending Ashford Academy, where she pretends to be ill to explain her prolonged absences. She believes herself to be Japanese at heart and prefers to be known by her birth name, Kallen Kouzuki. Kallen is a member of a Japanese resistance cell led by her brother, who died prior to the first episode, and later joins Zero's Black Knights. She is the group's most talented pilot and on par with the Knights of the Round. She pilots the unique Guren Mk-II. Her devotion to Zero is unmatched among the rest of the Black Knights.

Rolo: Rolo Lamperouge is introduced in the second season as an assassin posing as Lelouch's brother, placed there to observe Lelouch following his memory rewrite at the end of the first season. Rolo pilots the Vincent Prototype, and possesses a Geass power in his right eye that allows him to temporarily freeze the subjective experience of time for all persons within a given range. Whenever Rolo uses this power, his heart stops until the effect ends. He is manipulated by Lelouch into supporting the Black Knights and seems to become dependent on Lelouch over time, treasuring a locket given to him by Lelouch on his birthday and always referring to him as "brother".

The Black Knights: The Black Knight are a group of revolutionaries created by Lelouch (under the guise of Zero) in his campaign to overthrow Britannia. He introduces the group to the world as an organization which protects those without power from those who have it. Under his leadership, the Black Knights grow in strength exponentially, becoming a force rivaling the Britannian army. Ultimately, the Black Knights gain legitimacy when the newly-formed United Federation of Nations contracts the Black Knights (organized as a private military company) to become their military force.

Charles zi Britannia: Charles zi Britannia is Lelouch's father and the 98th Emperor of the Holy Britannian Empire as well as one of the main antagonists of the series, he has 108 different consorts. A strong proponent of Social Darwinism, he views equality as an evil that must be dispelled, and to this end he encourages class conflict and military expansionism so as to maintain social evolution and progress. He also suffered a horrific childhood of his family murdering each other for sucession, forging a pact with his brother V.V. to create a world without lies. Acquiring allies in Marianne and C.C., Charles created the Sword of Akasha, a weapon designed to facilitate the Ragnarök Connection, remaking the world into a place without lies by killing "God", which is the collective individual unconsciousness of all mankind.

Marianne: Marianne vi Britannia is the fifth wife of the Emperor of Britannia and the mother of Lelouch and Nunnally, titled the 98th Empress of the Holy Britannian Empire. She is nicknamed "Marianne the Flash" for her piloting skills, having been the test pilot for the Ganymede Knightmare Frame with the support of the Ashford Foundation, which was then a contender in the development of the first Knightmare Frame prototypes. Bismarck Waldstein claims that the only person he had to use his Geass against before Suzaku was Marianne, which shows that she must have been particularly skilled. When Lelouch was a child, she was assassinated in the Imperial Palace in broad daylight, purportedly by terrorists, and the culprits were never found. The fact that the impenetrable security of the palace was powerless is what convinced Lelouch that her murder was no random act of terrorism.

Nunally: She is Lelouch's sister and the main reason he's become Zero for. Nunally born Princess Nunnally vi Britannia, daughter of the Emperor of Britannia, Charles zi Britannia, and Marianne vi Britannia. She was 87th in line of succession to the Britannian throne and she is the Eleventh Princess of the Holy Britannian Empire. When her mother was assassinated, Nunnally was paralyzed by bullet wounds, and went blind due to psychological trauma. Lelouch believes that she may be able to see again someday. After the confrontation between Lelouch and the Emperor of Britannia about the murder of their mother, both Lelouch and Nunnally were exiled to Japan as political prisoners. They then went on to live in Kururugi residence where she first met Suzaku Kururugi. In information provided by the novels, Nunnally privately had a terrible time coping with the changes in her life and would throw tantrums when left to her own at Kururugi residence, destroying nearly anything she could get her hands on.

My Fail MYM Opinions​

- Faked and Opinionated by emergency ​

My mini-reviews are actually just some crap that no one cares about. This is my warning, that these little blurbs I spit out are nothing useful. Just my opinion on certain things and a couple of moves.


Tryclyde

• Oh, I remember these things from my NES! Righto, I was int rested in the mechanic that you added with growing the heads, and the multiple effects and causes that come with each spurt. The head-popping side-effect was a good touch.
• Onto to the moveset, I just took a quick skim to see about how much I had to read, and judging on how long it took me to scroll down, you had a lot of words.
  ... *reads*...
• Alrighty, I'll pick out some moves.
• The Neutral Special was pretty nice, it has great way to setup several strings of attacks, if placed correctly. I also like the references to the other enemies that you see in the game. Fry Guy. <3.
• The Up Special, Ha. Albatoss~ I see, he works much like a moving magic carpet. That was sneaky. I loved this move.
• Forward Smash, Tweeter! (Ha, sorry. Just had to say it.)
• Down Smash, I loved this move too, since it's so integrated into using the surroundings, (Poor Tweeter, dies for a hopefully good cause.) The sheer possibilities with this move, is got me thinking of: NSpec (Fry Guy), Fsmash (Tweeter), Usmash (Fire Snake), + Dsmash (Quicksand). That can wreck some huge damage. :D
• As the set itself, I believe it is highly detailed in almost every aspect. IMO, I would rather read a set with less technicality in it. Colors were fine, Sort of bland with just white under-text. Headers were great (pewpew). Overall, it was a fantastic read, and brings back some old memories.

Envy

Death the Kid

Lelouch

Entries shall be made as soon as I finish reading.

Notes: Negligable in this case means that the knockback won't really have any effect until the opponent is at maybe 150%, and even then, it will only send them a small distance.
As far as speed goes (hers is above 10), Sonic's speed = 20/10, just to give you a meterstick. For acceleration, it means that when she turns, she's immediately at top speed again.

Ratings from most extreme to average (attack descriptions):
Hyper (almost never used; reserved for direct attacks that go at least 3 times as far as Samus's Grapple Beam and indirect attacks that only stop when they hit someone or something, no matter how far they travel; also for the exact opposite, where direct range is virtually nonexistant and indirect range only goes as far as Lucario's Force Palm)
Ultra
Super
Very
Slow/Fast
Medium Slow/Fast
Medium

The total at the bottom of the stats is the sum of all the stats and miscellaneous point changes. An average score would be about 75 to 85.
S = 90 or above (possibly broken)
A = 80-89 (great)
B = 70-79 (good)
C = 60-69 (below average)
D = 50-59 (poor)
E = Below 50 (horrible)

Roserade

Stats
Power: 2.07/10
Aside from one move that requires perfect aim with a hard-to-aim move, she has virtually no killing potential. Even at high damage, opponents don't have too much to worry about as long as they're careful.
Special: 2/10
Standard: 2.2/10
Grab: 3/10
Defense: 0/10
Roserade makes Jigglypuff look like a heavyweight. It's incredibly dangerous for Roserade to engage in close-range melee, because any hard hitter can easily OHKO her, even from the middle of Final Destination, and Ike can kill her with... just about anything.
Priority: 10/10
This is one area where Roserade really shines. Virtually every move will tear straight through most melee attacks and at least cancel most projectiles.
Combos: 6/10
She's... okay at juggling opponents with a few of her moves, but for the most part she struggles to get good combos because of her cooldown.
Range: 9/10
Roserade has exceptional range. Her direct attacks can hit from farther away than any other character by an incredibly large margin, and can strike through even moderately thick walls with her longest-ranged attacks, such as her f-smash and forward special. However, her lack of projectile attacks does hinder her overall range. No matter how far her direct attacks can hit from, 90% of projectiles still have an edge over her. In addition, that range is heavily restricted to a single direction; most of her attacks have massive range in one direction (most notably forward) but virtually none in the other directions. Combined, she can strike from anywhere, but if an opponent keeps moving around her (particularly above her), she has to rely heavily on prediction.
Direct: 15/10
Indirect: N/A (-1, limits max rating to 10)
Accuracy: 5/10
Speed: 11.5/10
In running speed, Roserade is unparalleled, excluding Sonic, who can't be outclassed in movement speed by anyone (except maybe Shadow). However, even Sonic can't compare to Roserade's turning speed; she can literally turn in place. The instant one foot is on the ground, Roserade can turn around, and she doesn't even slow down. Her turning ability is on par with dash dancing. Her attack speed is below average, though. Her attacks launch rather quickly, but she has problems with cooldown.
Max Speed: 13/10
Turning Speed: 15/10
Attack Speed: 6.5/10
Jump: 10.4/10
Roserade has an incredible jump, and even has a half-decent third jump to work with. Her second jump is just as high as her first. Combine Falco's first jump with ZSS's second jump, add in another half-Mario jump, and you've got Roserade's total jump.
First Jump: 10/10
Second Jump: 10/10
Third Jump: 4/10 (no effect on jump stat; add 1/2 of rating to misc.)
Recovery: 15/10
Petal Dance gives Roserade great range as a recovery, and doesn't put her into freefall. However, that's not the main reason she gets such a high recovery rating. The main reason is Vine Whip. With the 2 jump boosts she can get off of a wall, combined with her 3 jumps, even without a wall jump OR Petal Dance, she's capable of covering a vertical distance equal to a maximum size custom stage, from the bottom of the bottom block to the top block (high enough to land on the top block without needing the edge). Vine Whip is a bit easy to catch her in the middle of, but Petal Dance is very hard to intercept due to the hitbox surrounding her body, so a smart player can combine the 2 to get a virtually unstoppable recovery. Of course, this doesn't do her any good if she gets KOd by an attack's launch, so this almighty recovery combo's true use is to prevent her from being gimped while off-stage.
Maneuverability: 12/10
Traction: 15/10
Aerial Maneuverability: 9/10
Final Smash: 5.93/10
Cross Poison works kinda like Marth's Critical Hit in that both involve lunging forward quite far along the ground and striking upon running into an opponent, as well as the fact that if you don't get out of the way of the lunge FAST, you're going to get hit. Cross Poison is one of the weakest (if not THE weakest) Final Smashes in terms of damage and knockback. However, the effect from the poison racks up a lot of damage, and the flower it plants helps restore Roserade a little, too.
Power: 1.8/10
Range: 7/10
Other: 9/10
SUBTOTAL: 83.4/100
Miscellaneous: -1
Roserade has a plethora of special conditions. The majority of them assist her, but the hindering conditions are severe enough to slightly outweigh the bonuses.
+Natural Cure +2
+Leech Seed +1
+Poison Point +2
+Steadfast +1
+Third Jump +2
+High Wall Jump +3
+Extended Wall Cling +1
+Extended Reach +1
+Distance Edge Grab +2
+Extended Dodge +1
+Distance Grab +1
+Poison +2
+Tech Versatility +1
-Glass Jaw -5
-No Guard -10
-Butterfingers -5
-Lightweight -2
-No Strength -1
=Ledge Getup Change +0
TOTAL: 82.4/100
Rating: A-
Overall, a skilled character, though her stats are so out-of-balance with each other that it takes a skilled player to take advantage of her potential. She struggles in 1v1 matches because of her horrible power, which forces her to play a game of keep-away in order to outlast her opponent, although her Toxic Spikes do have good gimping potential. However, team battles are where she truly shows her worth. If you're in a team battle, then you want her on your side, especially if you're a power hitter. Roserade's ability to rack up opponents' damage with her poison and her long range make her the ideal partner for someone who can get kills at low damage. In addition, with a teammate helping her, her weak knockback can actually be used as a slight advantage, allowing her and her teammate to juggle an opponent back and forth.

Abilities:
Natural Cure, Leech Seed, Poison Point, Steadfast, Extended Reach, Extended Dodge, Ledge Getup, Tech Versatility
-Natural Cure: Sleep, freezing, burial, dizziness, slowdown, stun, and (oddly enough; you'll see why below) metal affect for half the normal time. Roserade is immune to flower and poison (including white Pikmin). The reason that metal falls into this category is because it hinders her movement so severely.
-Leech Seed: When Roserade inflicts a flower status on another character (even through the use of a Lip Stick), for every 2% damage the flower inflicts, Roserade heals 1% damage.
-Poison Point: When Roserade is grabbed, for every 2 seconds she is held, she inflicts 1% poison damage to the holder. In addition, when she grabs an opponent, for every second she holds the opponent, she inflicts 1% poison damage.
-Steadfast: Not counting banana peels, Roserade will not trip.
-Extended Reach: Roserade can grab an edge from slightly farther away than most characters.
-Extended Dodge: Roserade's rolling dodges go a little farther, and the effect lasts a little longer for sidestep dodges.
-Poison: Roserade is capable of poisoning an opponent. (See below.) In a 2v2, even if team attack is turned on, she cannot poison her teammate.
-Tech Versatility: Roserade has several options for what she can do when she performs a tech. For example, she can choose to instantly spring off of the ground into a jump, or launch forward/backward into a sort of aerial rolling dodge, or even attack straight out of the tech. Her teching is slowed down a little to allow players to perform these.

Detriments:
Glass Jaw, No Guard, Butterfingers, Lightweight
-Glass Jaw: This simply means that the character has less than 0/10 defense. For Roserade, it corresponds to -5/10 defense. What this means for Roserade is that with a fully charged forward smash, Ike can KO her from the farthest side of Final Destination even at no damage.
-No Guard: Roserade’s shield does not protect against attacks from behind. In addition, even when blocking an attack, Roserade will still take 1/10 of the move's original damage every time the shield is hit.
-Butterfingers: Roserade's grab can be broken in half the standard time for a normal hold. In addition, she can only hold onto the edge for half of the standard time before she falls.
-Lightweight: When Roserade's grab is broken, she slides twice as far back as a normal character, and there is a slightly longer delay before she can move again.
-No Strength: While metal, Roserade is rendered almost helpless. She can't dash, her walking is reduced to minimum speed, her jumps are all half-height and have very little horizontal movement... she can't even stand up straight for long!

Conditions:
Ledge Getup Change
Ledge Getup Change: Apart from her attack when getting up from an edge, all of her edge animations remain constant. They don't change to a slower animation at >100%, like other characters. However, she is slow to get up from an edge to begin with, unless she grabbed it using Vine Whip or a tether.

A note about Roserade’s poison: Excluding the effect of Poison Point or any throws/pummeling, any poison inflicted does NOT wear off; in addition, it is accumulative. Her poison has 4 stages of intensity. The first time a target is poisoned, he or she will only take 1% damage every minute (60 seconds). The second stage (requires 2 additional poisonings, total of 3), the time decreases to 40 seconds. The third (6 total) drops the delay to 20 seconds, and the fourth (10 total) drops it to 10 seconds.

Specials
B: Sleep Powder
Roserade sprays blue-colored pollen a short distance in front of her. It does no damage, but it will put any opponent that breathes it in to sleep. The pollen doesn't linger behind the leading portion of the move.
Speed: Medium launch, very slow-moving pollen, cannot be used more than once at a time (pollen has to fade before it can be used again)
Range: A little longer than Samus's Grapple Beam (long), spreads upwards & downards to match her height (medium short)

Up-B: Petal Dance
Lunges in a chosen direction, cloaked in a swirl of petals. Covers a large distance, has a decent hitbox surrounding her entire body, and drags the opponent along with a series of hits, but inflicts minimal damage and knockback. The direction can be changed mid-path and can be curved. This move does not send Roserade into free-fall, but she cannot use Vine Whip until she lands. Ironically, the long distance that it carries her makes it very difficult to spam.
Knockback: Drag x 5 + Minor x 1
Angle: Drag x 5 + Back-up or forward up, depending on the direction traveled.
Damage: 1% grass x 5 + 3% grass
Speed: Fast
Range: Travels long distance (ultra long), medium surrounding hitbox

Over-B: Vine Whip
When pressed but not held, swings a blade-tipped whip forward. If held, shoots the whip straight forward, after which it can be used just like Sheik’s whip. Has enormous range. The tip does more damage, but the base will inflict poison. In midair, the whip shoots straight forward, and if it’s in range of a ledge, it will automatically latch on to the edge. If it is out of range of the ledge, but in range of a wall, even a wall angled downward, it will stick into the wall, and she will fling herself upwards and launch a second whip out to latch onto an edge or into a wall, which she can then pull herself up into a huge jump from.
Knockback: Very low
Angle: Forward
Damage: 8% grass or 5% poison
Speed: Medium with ultra long cooldown
Range: Hyper long horizontal, ultra short vertical

Down-B: Toxic Spikes
Scatters 5 toxic four-pointed spikes in front of her. The spikes remain on the ground for 10 seconds before disappearing. If they hit a target, they will automatically disappear.
Knockback: Flinch
Angle: None
Damage: 3% poison
Speed: Fast, but can't be reused until all the spikes have vanished
Range: Total of about the length of Snake's long grenade toss (super long), with the spikes evenly spread if they all land on the same flat surface

Standard
Weak attacks
A: Kick
A simple kick.
1%, flinch, very fast
AA: Double Kick
A second kick, bringing her foot back around a second time.
1% + 1%, flinch + flinch, very fast + very fast
AAA: Twirl Kick
Kicks, brings her foot back for another, then spins and kicks a third time.
1%+1%+2%, previous + negligable
AAAAA...: Flurry Kick
After the first three kicks, continuously kicks back and forth like the first 2 kicks. Will also work if you just hold the A button after the 3rd attack in the combo.
1%+1%+2%+1%+1%..., previous + flinch + flinch..., previous + ultra-fast

Tilts
Up-A: Twin Kick
Performs a quick handstand upward lunge, kicking above her twice. Similar to Pit's up-tilt, but weaker.
Damage: 3%+3%
Knockback: Up + up
Speed: Fast
Range: Medium vertical, hyper short horizontal
Forward-A: Vine Swing
Spins forward and lashes out with her whip. As usual, the tip hits hardest, but not by very much.
Damage: 6% grass or 8% grass
Knockback: Forward
Speed: Medium-fast
Range: Long horizontal, short vertical
Down-A: Trip Kick
Quickly sweeps the ground in front of her.
Damage: 3%
Knockback: Trip (slight upwards)
Speed: Super Fast
Range: Medium short horizontal, super short vertical

Smashes
Up-Smash: Power Whip
Shoots both vines straight up, with the tips colliding a considerable height above her. If she hits someone at that point (where the most damage is done), she quickly jerks the whips apart, slashing the opponent again, and slams them into the ground in front of and behind her, striking over a ridiculously large semicircle from in front of her to behind her. Does decent damage and inflicts poison if she hits with the point where the tips meet, and the tips do decent damage on the way down, but the whips themselves hit for relatively little damage, though on the way down, no part of the attack is poisonous. She will perform the second part of the attack if and ONLY if she hits with the very small sweetspot where the tips collide. If she hits with the sweetspot, the blade tips of the second strike are incredibly potent, and are her most potent attack. The knockback of the sweetspot aims the victim directly at that spot, but the second hit much be as precise as Marth's forward-smash (which bases its most potent strike on the very tip of the sword) and even then, it only works when the target is on the ground (including the target hit by the first sweetspot). The knockback of the first sweetspot is unbelievably fast (in order to get the target down to the second strike's sweetspot in time), but it's set in stone & is immediately canceled by the second strike, and it's impossible for the second strike to completely miss the target (meaning that the sweetspot can't just instantly spike someone off the cliff from 0% or at all, for that matter).
Damage: 4%-7% grass or 8%-13% poison + 18%-23% grass or 4%-7% grass
Knockback: Up or down-forward + up
Speed: Very slow charge, fast launch, very slow cooldown; super fast launch for second attack, but super slow cooldown
Range: Hyper long vertical, short horizontal (first attack); hyper long semicircular
Forward-Smash: Rose Whip
Viciously launches the whip forward, and jerks it to the side if she hits with the tip (at the edge of the attack's range).
Damage: 3%-6% poison or 7%-11% grass + 2%-4% grass
Knockback: Forward or stun+forward
Speed: Medium slow charge, very fast launch, medium slow cooldown
Down-Smash: Seed Bomb
Seed Bombs the ground in front of her with one flower, then behind her with her other flower. Will plant a flower if it hits directly.
Damage: 8%-14% grass/flower
Knockback: Forward-up/Backward-up
Speed: Medium-Slow
Range: Medium

Dash A: Assasin Lunge
Kicks off the ground and lunges forward, using one of the whip blades like a knife to slash forward along the length of the lunge.
6% grass, backward-up, medium range, fast

Aerials
Neutral-Air: Rose's Thorns
Twirls in midair with her whips twirling around her.
Damage: 1% x 5+1% poison
Knockback: Drag x 5+ forward-up/backward-up
Speed: Fast, but slow cooldown
Range: Short
Up-Air: Whip Drill
Spins around, her whips extended above her head and wrapped together, the tips making a sort of drill.
Damage: 7 hits but only 4% total
Knockback: Negligable x 7
Speed: Fast
Range: Medium upwards, short horizontal, super short downwards
Forward-Air: Twin Whip
Swings her whip in front of her twice.
Damage: 3% grass x 2
Knockback: Forward-up x 2
Speed: Fast x 2, medium cooldown
Range: Long horizontal, short vertical
Back-Air: Twin Back Whip
Spins and swings the whip behind her, then quickly spins a second time to strike again. Similar to her forward-air, but slightly stronger.
Damage: 3% grass + 4% grass
Knockback: stun+backward
Speed: Fast x 2, medium cooldown
Range: Long horizontal, medium vertical
Down-Air: Vine Flip
Flips and swings her whip vertically straight down in reference to the screen.
Damage: 7% grass
Knockback: Down (tip) or up (base)
Speed: Medium
Range: Medium

Ledge (<100%): Lunge Kick
Flings herself forward in a sliding kick.
2%, long range
Ledge (>100%): Axe Kick
Pulls herself up into a handstand, then axe kicks.
3%, medium range
Standup Attack: Sweep Kick
Swings her legs in front of and behind her in a kick. Very weak.
1%, medium range

Grabs
Z: Bind
Swings her whips forward and wraps them around the opponent from a distance. Longer than Link's Hookshot, but not by much.
Range: Very long
Pummel: Constrict
Squeezes the opponent with her whips and digs her thorns into the opponent.
2% poison non-accumulative
Speed: Medium
Up-Throw: Handstand Kick
Holds the opponent above her and handstand-kicks them with both feet.
6%, up
Forward-Throw: Thrust Kick
Shoves a foot against the opponent while holding them in place, then releases to shove them forward.
4%, forward
Back-Throw: Vine Slam
Swings them in a sideways arc with her whip and slams them into the ground.
8% poison non-accumulative, backward-up
Down-Throw: Stomp
Jumps up, slams the enemy into the ground below her, then stomps on them.
4%+2%, up

Items
Item Neutral: Swings the item forward.
Item Tilt: Swings the item harder, stepping forward to do so and giving the attack surprising range.
Item Smash: Spins with the item and swings it diagonally down. One of her slowest attacks. Shoots 4 stars from a Star Rod.
Item Dash: Jumps forward, twirling the item around her to hit up to 4 times but for minimal damage for all of them.
Home-Run Bat Range: Very high, sweeps the ground

Final Smash: Cross Poison
Roserade brings her arms in across her chest and her eyes twinkle. Roughly a second later, she lunges forward (roughly as far as Marth’s Critical Hit) and, with the petals of her flowers scattering into the air, she slashes with the blades on the tips of her whips, clutched in her semi-humanoid hands normally concealed by the petals. If she hits, she smirks, then springs back onto her hands and then springs back again to right herself and to put distance between her and the target, as well as to show off a little. If she misses, she grimaces and kicks backwards, also to put distance between her and the enemy. This inflicts both toxic poison and flower on the opponent.
Damage: 11% poison
Knockback: Low
Angle: Forward
Speed: Medium-slow charge, very fast launch, very slow "cooldown"
Effects: Plants flower; toxic poisoning: 10 seconds of 2% per second, then 10 of 1% per second, then the poison reverts to fourth-level intensity.

Taunt/Victory/Loss
Taunts:
Up: Faces the screen (crowd) and bows.
Side: Extends only the blade of one of her whips out of her flower and licks the broad edge, almost like a teasing female assassin might.
Down: Makes a taunting motion, as if to say “bring it on”.

Victory Poses:
1: Performs a short ballet twirl, followed by a bow. She murmurs "rade" as she bows.
2: Launches into the air with an elaborate Petal Dance, landing gracefully on one knee with her arms extended and her hands against the ground; her head is bowed some. After landing, she'll glance towards the screen
3: Giggles teasingly and mischievously, holding a flower in front of her mouth.
Matchup-specific: If Lucario, Pikachu, or any of PT's pokemon was in the match, she will look back at them and wink, as if to simultaneously flirt and taunt. When she does this, that pokemon will actually blush.

Loss Pose:
Roserade is facing towards the screen, but her head is turned to the side (inwards regardless of where she's standing). Her vision is directed at the victors, at whom she's glaring. She is clapping, although it seems forced. Her teeth are clenched. She's a very poor sport, but she at least has the decency to try to congratulate the victor(s) in a civil, polite manner (although she isn't very good at it).

Miscellaneous
Fall Speed: Medium
Gender: Defined, female
Voice: Feminine, alluring, “innocent”-sounding and very mischievous (basically, femme fatale)
Height: Only a little taller than Pikachu. This is a fairly big contributor to her light weight.
Trophy Description:
With the graceful, flowing movements of a dancer, Roserade strikes out with her thorn-covered whips, which give her massive range. She doesn’t have any knockback power, though, so she has to rely on a strategy of keep-away. Her light frame is incredibly easy to send flying, and yet it allows her to move and turn with astonishing agility; it also allows her to effortlessly jump as high as any other brawler, even allowing a third jump. She can recover from any fall where her Vine Whip will reach the edge or a wall, so players must rely on her light frame to send her soaring.
Alternate Costumes
-Shiny
-Both flowers red and skin blue
-Both flowers blue and skin red
-Both flowers white
-Both flowers and hair red
-Both flowers black
Quirks
-If Lucario, Pikachu, or any of PT's pokemon is in a match with her, their attention will be diverted towards her (unless they were the winner of the match). The aroma from her flowers is particularly powerful for male pokemon. Lucario is defined as a male in the game, and while Pikachu's gender isn't specifically defined, it's assumed to be a male. The same goes for all 3 of PT's pokemon.

Snake Codec:
Snake: Okay, I've faced some silly opponents, but this is just ridiculous. A PLANT?
Otacon: It's a Roserade, a flower pokemon.
Snake: Flower pokemon, huh? This should be a piece of cake.
Otacon: Snake, haven't you ever heard the expression, "Every rose has its thorns"? Roserade takes it literally; she's equipped with vines that are covered in toxic thorns! If you're hit by the thorns, you'll be poisoned, and the poison doesn't wear off. Not only that, but she's incredibly fast and can strike from long distance using the whips.
Snake: Still, she's a flower pokemon. There's no way she can take a hit, right?
Otacon: True, Roserade is the lightest fighter to have joined thus far, so if you can catch her, a couple of good hits should do the trick. Just make sure you don't grab her.
Snake: What? Why?
Otacon: Her body is also covered in almost invisible toxic thorns, to if you try to grab her, you're going to get yourself poisoned.
Snake: Ugh... I shouldn't have left my lighter at home.

Crowd Cheering: Alternates between men saying "Rose" and women saying "Rade" in quick succession.
Kirby Hat: Kirby gets Roserade's white hair (petals?) as a headdress, and his hands have the 2 rose bouquets on them.

Animations:
Entry:
A large rose bud appears. The petals scatter to reveal Roserade crouching inside, at which point she stands up.

Standing:
Neutral: She stands with her arms crossed in front of her body and her legs straight.
Idle 1: She will extend a blade from her flower and examine it, making sure it's sharp.
Idle 2: She will perform a quick ballet twirl.
Idle 3: She will hop from one foot to the other in a mock boxer stance.
Special 1: At over 100% (if you somehow manage to survive that long), she will be hunched over with the sides of her arms (right next to the top; it's a replacement for using her hands) on her knees, panting.
Special 2: While metal, her legs will shake and her arms will hang limply as she struggles just to stand. After a few seconds, she will fall to her hands and knees, panting heavily.

Movement:
Jumps:
-1: Springs upwards into the air with a quiet "Hmph" (or something along those lines ^^; ).
-1 (metal): Crouches, then thrusts her legs against the ground to jump. Very slow to get off the ground.
-2 Forward: Similar to ZSS's down-B jump.
-2 Backward: A backflip.
-3: A somersault in whichever direction she's moving.
Landing: Virtually no landing animation. She lands on her feet with zero lag.
Landing (metal): When she lands, she immediately falls to one knee from the force, then gets to her feet.
Walking: Walks almost like a model on a catwalk. (She has a little bit of an ego.)
Walking (metal): She has to heave her legs forward with each step.
Running: Sprints forward with her arms behind her, leaning forward and thrusting her legs backward against the ground (a bit like Sheik).
Running (metal): She cannot run at all while metal.
Crouch: Lays down, making herself a very low target.
Crawl: She, well, crawls. (Think ZSS.) She has to raise her body a little in order to get on all fours and crawl.

Shield:
Hugs her arms against her body in a crossed position as a pair of large curved leaves materialize in front of her. As time passes or the shield takes damage, the leaves turn brown and wither.

Statuses
Stunned: She's down on one knee, holding her head and swaying slightly.
Recovering: She shakes her head a little and stands up.
Sleep: Similar to stunned, except her arms are limp and her head is simply hanging forward. (Side note: The only sound she makes while sleeping is light breathing.)
Waking Up: She opens her eyes and looks around quickly, almost as if she's embarrassed to have fallen asleep in the middle of battle.
Buried: Her body is literally buried halfway into the ground (up to her waist) and she's trying to pull herself out. (Unlike most characters, she is actually moving while buried, instead of being frozen on a single frame.)
Shrink: She shakes her head and shudders.
Grow: She looks upwards with her eyes closed and moves her arms outward, a little bit like one of Pit's taunts (mimicking that wasn't what I had in mind for this, but it's the best example I can come up with).
Superspicy Curry: Hops from one foot to the other. The petals on her flowers are burned away and she's clutching her mouth with her hands. She cries out in short bursts as if she's in pain (more than other characters who eat it, except maybe Ivysaur), simply because she really is in a lot of pain. (She's a plant, what do you expect?)

Injuries:
Injured: Her mouth opens in a cry of pain. Her eyes are clenched shut, and teardrops form at the corners of her eyes. Her injured sounds are either a whimper, a short cry, or a sort of cough/choke sound (this is normally reserved for a blow that has mostly horizontal knockback, meant to mimic the sound she'd make if kicked in the stomach that hard; when she makes this sound, it's as soon as the hit lands, unlike most injury sounds).
KOd: Normally a pained "Rade!!!" On occasion, she'll let out a short scream.
Star KOd: A long, agonized "Roooooose...!!!"
Laying Facedown: Her head is turned to the side and her arms are at her sides. (Basically, a normal laying pose.) Her eyes are closed, and it looks like she's asleep.
Laying Face-up: Her head is turned to the side again, and her eyes are closed. Her arms and legs are spread out a little. Again, she looks like she's sleeping.

Getting Up:
Standing Up (facedown): She pushes herself to her knees and stands up.
Standing Up (face-up): She rolls over then stands up just like her facedown pose, except a bit faster.
Rolling Forward: A simple roll.
Rolling Backward: Rolls into a handstand and jumps backward.

Techs
Ground: Catches the ground with her hands. If nothing is pressed, she will spring upward a bit and right herself in the air, landing gracefully on her feet. Alternately, you can immediately spring off of the ground into a jump. You can also spring forward or backwards into a aerial "rolling" dodge, in which you travel along a low arc which spans the same distance as a rolling dodge, but allows you to jump over gaps or down to a lower level. (As soon as you reach the level that the ground is, you regain control.) Another option is to perform a getup attack directly out of the tech.
Wall: Absorbs the impact with her legs, bending her knees. If nothing is pressed during a small delay in the animation, she launches a vine towards the wall, causing the knife to stick, and pulls herself into a wall cling. Alternately, you can immediately launch off the wall straight forward, angled down, or angled up, or you can immediately drop out of the tech. You can also perform a neutral-air out of the tech.
Ceiling: Absorbs the impact with her legs, bending her knees. She will drop down normally if nothing is pressed during the small animation delay. By pressing up, you can have her cling to the ceiling for a moment longer; she will launch her vines into the ceiling and hang for a brief moment. From there, you can either lunge downwards at any angle, swing from the vines and leap forward/backward, or lunge straight down into a fastfalling down-air.

Ledges:
Ledge: Clings to the edge with her forearms and struggles to pull herself up.
Ledge Jump: Pulls herself upwards and launches herself into the air.
Ledge Jump (vine): Quickly retracts the vine and releases the edge, launching her body into the air. (She does a kind of handstand for this, so she launches upwards feet-first.)
Ledge Climb: Heaves her body back onto solid ground with obvious difficulty. Cannot do a standard ledge climb when clinging to the edge with a vine.
Ledge Dodge: Pulls herself onto the ground (with some difficulty) and rolls forward.
Ledge Dodge (vine): This one is unique in that although it is slower than the standard, it doesn't leave her vulnerable at any point until she's back on her feet, at which point she can already react normally. She kicks away from the edge, swinging backwards (the distance she goes depends on the length of the vine) to be slightly above ground level, then pulls herself forward along the vine and launches into a roll. (Because of her light frame, when she kicks off the wall, she swings backward quite quickly.) During the entire process, she is invulnerable.

Dodges:
Sidestep Dodge: Steps into the foreground/background for a moment, pulling her body back as if trying to press herself flat against a wall (trying to get out of range).
Forward Roll Dodge: Lunges forward a bit and into the background/foreground, then kicks off the ground again as she lands, twisting to face the other direction.
Backward Roll Dodge: Kicks backwards into a handstand then rolls backwards to get back onto her feet.
Air Dodge: Twirls in midair.

This is my link-up space. To be edited laterz. Metapod, MM set, etc. yeah...

Chris Lionheart said:

Lelouch​

Lelouch was certainly an interesting set. Some of the moves, such as the Neutral Special, did exemplify great creativity, but others, with one of the worst cases being the Down Tilt, showed anything but creativity (why is the move so close to being a generic counter?). More blatant than the occassional creativity flaw, however, are the balance issues with the moveset. The Neutral B just seems grossly overpowered. When used as a KO move (and it isn't his only KO option), it is quite balanced. A couple commands just struck me as insanely broken: 1) "Jump" and 2) "Do Not Avoid Me!" I don't think I should have to explain why permanently shutting down the opponent's ability to defend themselves or causing them to auto-jump for the rest of the match is overpowered. I am aware that Geass can only be used on a foe once per stock... but geez... use it early on and you are set. Another big problem with this set is something that Junahu regularly criticizes- the overuse of moves that can only be used a limited number of times per stock. This includes the Neutral Special and Side Special. You have also implemented a rather large number of moves with large recharges, such as the Up Special (piloted) and the Bair.

Overall, Lelouch is a good set. Plenty of versatility (covers everything from damage racking to gimping to KO'ing to defense), a reasonable amount of creativity, and a good amount of detail (though I don't get why the Fair has no damage percentage). It is clearly a step up from anything you have made in MYM5. It still has a lot of room for improvement, however.

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Alright..thanks for reading my moveset first of all.

For the down tilt, to be honest, it was the best i could think of without being "leg sweep." I might change it to sometime else....though i don't really have any ideas..

As for the neutral B, opponents DO have the ability to avoid the attack. They can jump, turn around, or be on another platform. However, considering that i DO think it's broken as well, i'll change it that the opponent does it for only 15-20 seconds or something. I said Geass was his MAIN KO move. Not his only one.

As for the stock limits, i personally think it would be OOC for Lelouch to able to use Geass more than once on one opponent...but for the side special, i guess i could work it out with like a 10 second recharge or something. Also, C.C. is hot.

As for the large recharge things, i guess i could make it shorter...much shorter for the up special, though it's only to pilot it.

Overall, thanks for commenting on the moveset (even if it contains some major spoilers)...did i really not put damage percentages on the F-air? That's my bad. Thanks for the mini review Chris Lionheart. *thumbs up*

@leafbarrett: You know, you didn't have to repost it....It could be a bit better organized. Needs some color, and some more detail to the moveset...espically the neutral B. I suggest adding the speed to the attacks. It determines if a moveset is balanced or not.

ROSERADE:

The headers need a little color. Also, your method of organization is... interesting, but a bit bothersome at times.

I'll give the set a better read later.

TWILTHERO said:

Alright..thanks for reading my moveset first of all.

For the down tilt, to be honest, it was the best i could think of without being "leg sweep." I might change it to sometime else....though i don't really have any ideas..

As for the neutral B, opponents DO have the ability to avoid the attack. They can jump, turn around, or be on another platform. However, considering that i DO think it's broken as well, i'll change it that the opponent does it for only 15-20 seconds or something. I said Geass was his MAIN KO move. Not his only one.

As for the stock limits, i personally think it would be OOC for Lelouch to able to use Geass more than once on one opponent...but for the side special, i guess i could work it out with like a 10 second recharge or something.

The Geass limit was perfectly acceptable. The Side Special doesn't need to be a stock limit or a recharge. It simply needs a slightly higher cast time if anything. CC is likely going to be used for projectile defense mainly. Nothing she does really warrants nerfing the move, IMO. The only part of the move that could bring up balance issues is the part where she confuses opponents by dressing as Zero and jumping off of the stage. Perhaps just reducing that "stun" time to 1 second would be a good way to fix that.

Also, C.C. is hot.

Yes, yes she is, though Kallen is much hotter.

As for the large recharge things, i guess i could make it shorter...much shorter for the up special, though it's only to pilot it.

Overall, thanks for commenting on the moveset (even if it contains some major spoilers)...did i really not put damage percentages on the F-air? That's my bad. Thanks for the mini review Chris Lionheart. *thumbs up*

Yeah... I didn't really appreciate the spoilers considering I haven't finished Code Geass yet, but I couldn't resist reading a set on Lelouch.

@leafbarrett: You know, you didn't have to repost it....

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And yes, it is against the rules to repost sets, leafbarrett. Personally, I would let this slide this one time seeing as you are a newcomer, but just edit changes into the old post and announce the changes in a new post if you want changes to your set to be known.

Okay, for Lelouche, while reading it, the Neutral B is, well, extremely versatile at least. However......you can't CROUCH and do a Neutral B move.....you'll do your Down B instead. Just pointing that out to you.

That Down Smash.....well, it makes sense for it to hurt you, but I'd just Blaster him.....BOOOM! Anyways, unless you time it right, or your opponent's just stupid/CPU, they'll likely just hit you with a projectile. Which means you'll just take damage.

The Final Smash is good..not really an uber attack, it enhances one. And I like the immortality.

Roserade: I really like this set....but it does seem a little broken at a glance. The stats are broken, as 10 is Sonic, and she's faster than that. Though you may consider Sonic to be much farther up, so meh. Everything Soars except for power and the fact that she can't take a hit at all. I like the abilities, both the enhancers and the hampers. It makes for a great balancing factor. However, none of these really make or break her moveset, unlike they would if....well, pretty much any esteemed member of MYM had created it. I like that, though. They help her/hinder her, but the moveset doesn't revolve around them. It's like a mechanic that DOESN'T force you to memorize 75 lines of text to actually be able to play the character. MW, that's to you >_>

TRYCLYDE: this was a bit nostalgic, as i owned SMB2 on theNES (one of 3 NES games i owned). The way you made a mutant connection with the enemy and the boss was disgusting yet epically satisfying. i loved several moves and ROYAL ORAL is an epic move name. once again, a set has made me happy that im a MYMer.

*note: I have not played Mother 3 yet, but I did this guy anyway, because he is that Kick***.



If I forgot anything(I don't think I did) let me know.

phatcat203 said:

Okay, for Lelouche, while reading it, the Neutral B is, well, extremely versatile at least. However......you can't CROUCH and do a Neutral B move.....you'll do your Down B instead. Just pointing that out to you.

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Alright thanks. That was kind of my bad. I'll just make his Geass work as long as they're on the same ground level

That Down Smash.....well, it makes sense for it to hurt you, but I'd just Blaster him.....BOOOM! Anyways, unless you time it right, or your opponent's just stupid/CPU, they'll likely just hit you with a projectile. Which means you'll just take damage.

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Ahh...but the explosion's range is 2.5 stage builder blocks. As long as Lelouch gets within that range...ah forget it. I'll just make it that Lelouch must be hit by an attack that deals off 10-15% damage

The Final Smash is good..not really an uber attack, it enhances one. And I like the immortality.

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Thanks dude

@Masked man: Uhh...first of all, you shouldn't make a moveset for someone that you don't know a lot about. Secondly, it could use a bit more detail (like speed, range, and other descriptions.)

TWILTHERO said:

Alright thanks. That was kind of my bad. I'll just make his Geass work as long as they're on the same ground level



Ahh...but the explosion's range is 2.5 stage builder blocks. As long as Lelouch gets within that range...ah forget it. I'll just make it that Lelouch must be hit by an attack that deals off 10-15% damage



Thanks dude

@Masked man: Uhh...first of all, you shouldn't make a moveset for someone that you don't know a lot about. Secondly, it could use a bit more detail (like speed, range, and other descriptions.)

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oh, don't worry, I knew enough to make an authentic moveset (via spoiling-trust me, all of his specials were used in M3), but just stated i have yet to play mother 3.So this is kind of fan service. and I kind of did describe his speed and range.( unless you wanted more )

Death the Kid is an interesting enough set. It's pretty wordy; your biggest problem is still with the writing style, there, TWIL. I also thought you'd do something a bit more interesting with his main symmetry dealie, but I guess it makes picking stages more complex, at least, right? You cover a lot of detail and have a decent amount of creativity, although it's nothing mind-blowing. And I can't believe you stole Prinny's organization without even changing color. Tsk, tsk, man. Turns me off from reading all of it, actually.

Now, Rosalina's pretty good for a newcomer set. Welcome to MYM, n88! The main things I'd suggest to you would be to switch up the color a bit - reading a solid wall of teal is pretty trying for the eye, so I'd suggest some bolding and changed colors and sizes. I'd also suggest trying to make the attacks stand out a bit more - in fact, your best resource will be those useful links in the first post. You've got all the detail, though, and that's great to see.

I'll read and comment Heatran, Lelouche, and Roserade later, or try to, anyway.

Now, I'm just going to tell everyone who hasn't already to go read Adeleine!!! It's a really amazing set, probably the best posted yet, actually. It's simple, easy to read, and tons of fun. Just because Kibble's not around any more doesn't mean that you don't owe it to him to read his final moveset.

KingK.Rool said:

Now, Rosalina's pretty good for a newcomer set. Welcome to MYM, n88! The main things I'd suggest to you would be to switch up the color a bit - reading a solid wall of teal is pretty trying for the eye, so I'd suggest some bolding and changed colors and sizes. I'd also suggest trying to make the attacks stand out a bit more - in fact, your best resource will be those useful links in the first post. You've got all the detail, though, and that's great to see.

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Thanks for the input. The resaon it's like that is because I did all of the original formatting in Microsoft Word, forgetting that it wouldn't stay like that when I copied it into the posting thing. So, yeah it's a little bit improvised. I'm trying to fix it up a bit before I get going on my next set.

I'm already falling behind all these new movesets. I told myself I wouldn't this time, but I already am.

Masked Man: although you do include enough detail for people to understand your attacks, there's not nearly enough to excite anyone reading them. You seem to have a good understanding of the character and the pictures are helpful, but there isn't a lot I can say beyond that, the moveset being as short and boilerplate in executation as it is.
The organisation was genrally readable, but the font sizes and colours were a little haphazard, particularly when the moveset used dark colours like Blue.


Edit: A new moveset already. And it's long enough to scare the pants off Steven. And it has the special mechanics right down at the bottom (I assume it's more like an appendix than mandatory reading). Hoo boy, time for fun..

KingK.Rool said:

Death the Kid is an interesting enough set. It's pretty wordy; your biggest problem is still with the writing style, there, TWIL. I also thought you'd do something a bit more interesting with his main symmetry dealie, but I guess it makes picking stages more complex, at least, right? You cover a lot of detail and have a decent amount of creativity, although it's nothing mind-blowing. And I can't believe you stole Prinny's organization without even changing color. Tsk, tsk, man. Turns me off from reading all of it, actually.

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Is it really that wordy? =/ Eh...I'll try my best next time. Hmm...well what else could i do with symmetry? =/ Anyway, thanks for commenting on it dude And...come on...Prinny's organization looks pretty...

@Thrall: Whoa....that looks major impressive Chris. I haven't exactly finished reading it yet (i just finished the specials), but from what i'm reading so far, it looks very good. I'm liking the down special a lot, though for the standard special, do you choose where the lightning bounces with the control stick or C stick (like since you use the C-stick for the menu thingy with the down special, i'm guessing it goes the same as the standard special?) Also, can Thrall choose where the lightning lands as long as he wants? Like there's no 5 second time limit or anything? Just want to get that clarified. Just 2 minor nitpicks. *continues reading, though is really tempted to post L below it*

MYM6 needs more Assist Trophies.

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Wood Spider​

When the Wood Spider pops out, it will be the size of a Pikmin. It is invincible. Whenever the Wood Spider comes out of the Assist Trophy, it can be under one of a list of drugs, randomly. Here are the different types of drugged Wood Spiders:

LSD Spider: Builds a minimal web structure across the screen that will trap anyone who touches a strand in it. The strands stick to an enemy and anchor them in place for five seconds. They take no damage. If this was used on Final Destination, they chance of getting caught in a web will be around 10%.

Caffeine Spider: Spins a much more complex web across the screen that has a 25% chance of catching an enemy in it on FD. The spider will crawl to the trapped foe and try to bite them, dealing 10% and a poison effect. However, it might spin uncontrollably for three seconds at any time it is out. Those hit by the spinning Caffeine Spider take 5% and good knockback, knocking them out of the web.

Marijuana Spider: Instead of building a web, the spider will spin a hammock and lay around. This does absolutely nothing except trap enemies in his hammock for five seconds (which is about the size of a Battlefield platform).

Alcohol Spider: Makes a web exactly like the Caffeine Spider's, except that he has sex with a female spider on it and their little spider babies swarm the web and fall down if the web is hit. They deal 1% and no knockback, and they disappear after biting. If someone gets trapped in the web, however, and the spiders are on it... they get a constant 5% per second for five seconds. The Alcohol Spider is soon thrown out of the web, however, and a restraining order appears on it. This repels everyone, not just the spider, from coming within a Stage Builder block of the web.

Crack Cocaine Spider: This spider will drive out in a pimped out ride. The car is exactly like Wario's Bike, in every instance. Occasionally, it will lean out and pop a cap in the ass of the enemy in front of it. This deals 10% and high knockback. It has a 10% chance of making anyone who comes near it his bitch. This holds them in place for ten seconds.

This lasts for fifteen seconds.

LMFAO. that's a pretty trippy AT.

@Junahu: so I'm too serious with my explanation? hmm.......

lordvaati said:

LMFAO. that's a pretty trippy AT.

@Junahu: so I'm too serious with my explanation? hmm.......

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I'm unsure if that was intentional. Thanks!

My first commentary in MYM6! I’d say this was a better batch than in MYM5, Tryclyde is better than Golbez and Envy is better than K. Rool.

Tryclyde: Very good. This is a continued improvement from you – with less mindless detailing and some fun ideas, but you still do fall into the crux of overstating at times. You get hung up on little details and this makes it a confusing read. As well, your writing style doesn’t mesh well, you should start linking together your thoughts in a progressive way to continue this evolution of your MYMing, I think.

But enough criticism of your writing style! As I said, this moveset is very good. This is one of your better movesets. The special mechanic is interesting and I always enjoy your specials that shoot out a variation of things, the ones here are more interesting than Bowser Jr’s, although the amount of heads affecting moves does merit more organisation than you give it; a few small graphics would be decent enough, although I can’t falter your image work either. Your dedication with the extras and detail is admirable, but you would do better to edit it down somewhat.

Hobbes: This probably isn’t worth commenting on right now, but your organisation is actually superior to some long-time MYMers. Charming newcomer moveset thus far.

Envy: Aye, this, from the beginning, is blatantly your best homunculi moveset. Love the parasite form and statistics thing you made with MS paint partially. I’m also considering how to get rid of statistics; this is a good concept. Really, all the specials are very fun. I love the ideas behind Envy invading other players, stealing moves, items and such. You pull this off very well in the moveset, specifically in his down smash and parasite form.

This one was surprisingly awesome in a few ways. Maybe I should go read the FMA manga, as the ideas behind this set are gruesomely awesome. Your organisation – reminiscent of Wrath to myself – is good. The image work is typically ‘appropriate.’ I look forward to Sloth.

Adeleine: I commented in MYM5, but I can’t remember how much. Kibble put in so much effort to make essentially a four-in-one and it’s very impressive - perhaps not his best, but worth a read for any MYMer.

Death ‘The’ Kid: First, I hate this moveset for completely ripping off Prinny’s organisation, colouring – everything presentation-wise. That coupled with the copious B code errors and childish grammar lets me know, yes, I am reading a Twilty moveset.

This isn’t bad for you per se, but really, this isn’t up to standard. I suppose you know this already, though, so I’ll just spout some positive stuff: the moveset is fun. It’s almost self-satirical in how it portrays a character obsessed with symmetry or perfection, yet has the messiest grammar and sloppiest [or should I say, copy-est] layout ever. I’d say this was an accident with anyone else, but it is that Twilty charm we’ve all missed. Your use of images initially is a welcome addition to your repertoire, but this soon fades out of the set completely and we’re back to some generic moves again.

It’s all very promising, but it’s not MYM5 standard, let alone MYM6. Take some time on your next set to improve and I’m sure you’ll be on level with everyone else soon.

Rosalina: Generic and needs more detail, neither of which being a new complaint for newcomers. As a newcomer, it’s not a bad one. Just look to other sets on similar pages for an idea of what is expected. In the least, the “special abilities” section with everything labelled “NO” made me laugh.

Heatran: So this guy has INSANE detailing and colours to go along with them. It’s somewhat intimidating to look at some of these areas, let alone read, so yeah, you need to work on organising it so it’s welcoming. Maybe try using different fonts, messing with less saturated colours or fewer colours, more images… Try to use the centre tags more as well, right now it looks very unprofessional. What’s there is good, but you definitely need to work on editing. Also, spellings like “AREIALS” on the biggest headers make an *** of you and I.

Speaking of the moveset itself, not bad for a Poké-set. There aren’t that many generic moves and everything fits Heatran quite well. Sifting through other people’s comments, I have to agree with HR – there is potential here, if you just look at some of the better-looking movesets. You need to use lots more B coding, images and a better palette of colours. I recommend red. =P

Lelouch: Oh wow, another Twilty moveset already, in the same commentary. To compare, this one is a lot more well-rounded with the images, has better grammar and is generally an improvement, although they both are anime movesets and of a similar kind of character… We can all guess which was made second.

I liked how you fitted in the character’s personality with the hatred mechanic and all the moves are random, but fitting, which is what you’re all about. One last note is that those trophies descriptions are ridiculous; that’s 1224 words and no one is going to read those unless they’re mad. Just link to Wikipedia and be done with it!

Roserade: Another newcomer set, wie? Not bad in that regard, but you do, as do most of the others, need to be more detailed and have a more cohesive layout. Some of your headers are far too large and their uniform colourings keep them from standing out, although that doesn’t mean use the rainbow. Also, some of your moves are a little bit generic.

As well, your statistics and ‘speed’ or similar sections are all really confusing. You give Roserade a 83.1(/100) and I frankly don’t know what the heck that means. Be more descript in the future, as this sounds like another kind of interesting statistics idea.

Masked Man: Another newcomer moveset… so Claus, I see you’re Masked Man. The amount of images and how appropriate they are is encouraging, but the same cannot be said for their descriptions. Be much more descriptive in the future. It’s not bad for a newcomer moveset at all, but look at the other sets so far that are organised well and received thusly, then you’ll be able to improve. One sentence for each move is taking us into the Niko zone, which is like the Twilight Zone and the Dead Zone rolled into one black hole.

Thrall: Finally, I’m up to Thrall. I’ve been looking forward to this one since you told me about it some months ago. Looks awesome at a skim, but I’d like to dive deeper.

I like the building mechanic over Arthas’. It’s more accurate that the peons go inside the buildings and can be attacked, then ejected like in WCIII rather than the way Arthas did things with stuff in the background. It is also cool to think that one could build this stuff without halting play for themselves – good catch there. Unsurprisingly, the specials are all great. The switcher move is notable by itself as it’s awesome to think one can indeed do this with the moveset. Only you have tried this RTS implementation out and it deserves mention, it works extremely well. Again as expected, every move is fitting, if not ripped right from Warcraft III! Very well done.

The mechanic this time is, I feel, better than Arthas’. It’s another example of you lifting something right from the game and effortlessly implementing it in Smash. Overall, it’s just kind of daunting how epic this moveset is and it really can’t be summed up in a comment. Thrall feels far more like his WC3 self than your other WC3 sets and his playstyle does seem to command an army more affectively and easier than Arthas did.

Awesome work again, Chris. Just one big criticism from me, though... it is very similar to Arthas. It's much better, but you're treading over a lot of the same ground here. It's fine now, but I'd rather you tried to avoid this kind of set again, to be honest. This is perfect enough. Hell, the Thrall moveset could be amazing by itself with some adjustments.

And that ends today's SD's Super Cool Catch-Up Special.

lool@wood spider AT. Khold, make more like that lol

Thrall:

Epic!

So, the mechanic. It's like Arthas' but this time you manually control what to build and the buildings can be interacted with. That already scores major points with me since now it's player-controlled instead of random, yay! I loved the item-producing building, now items can actually be used in tourneys, lol. Granted, due to the sheer complexity of his mechanics, I doubt that many players would have the patience to learn him for competative play, but the good Thrall players will be really fun to see overwhelm their opponent with Orc armies. Nothing wrong with niche characters on the roster.

Despite relying on his mechanic for most of his playstyle, the regular moveset also contained a lot of interesting moves. The neutral A and DSmash were my favorites, which both happen to work off of his mechanic anyways. There's just no avoiding that mechanic is there xD. I also enjoyed the UTilt for being a sweet-spot move that makes the sourspot have actual reasons to hit with it.

Balance-wise, I'm not even gonna try to figure him out with so much things to take note of xD. But even if he did turn out SS tier, few players would ever be able to achieve that potential so he still wouldn't be as saturating as MK or Dedede.

So overall, awesome. I enjoyed every minute of it. Fantasic MYM6 debut, and I certainly hope to see more epicness from you in the future. =)

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lool@wood spider AT. Khold, make more like that lol

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Thanks. We need moar humorous stuff.

KingK.Rool said:

Okay, so I have a few things I want to mention before I start commenting on what's been posted so far.

1) I don't think you guys understand the goal of putting a link-up space at the beginning of the thread. You want people to scroll down on the first page and notice it immediately, new people who are just getting into MYM and reading the first page. Putting your link-up space on page 3 is just as useless as putting it on page 93; better edit an older post than take up space in the thread.

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I'm sorry, I wasn't aware of that. I'll keep it in mind during MYM 7. I didn't have an older post. I was busy all day, and by the time I got there it was already at page 3. I posted the Link-up Space because I won't be able to fit all of my sets into my signature.

Thrall: I haven't been able to fully read this set, but I can tell that Thrall trades several shortcomings and difficultly in proper use for superior numbers and extreame versatility. I find this a step up from your already impressive Arthas set in MYM5, and I enjoyed all the material from Warcraft 3 that you implemented into it. I can honestly say this set has a stylish sense of balance and plenty of charm, in addition to being a wonderful nostagola trip for WC3 fans. I wish I could be more constructive, but I'm still not at the level needed to give you of all people advice... and to be honest, I feel sorry for whichever reviewer will have to read and reread every last detail of that.

Arthas Thrall: Since you were so kind to point out the inspiration behind Thrall, that makes it so much easier to in turn point out the obvious. This is, blow-for-blow, a "more more more" remake of Arthas, regardless of how many times you demonstrate how they are in fact different.
This alone isn't a bad thing at all, the idea is solid and the improvements are clear; but Thrall has so much more that needed to be explained that the organisation and pacing you've employed here is almost criminal. Thralls attacks and the special mechanic are on completely seperate planets here, if your moveset is to be believed.
It all just felt.. fragmented, like you believed the reader would care enough about the moveset to piece it together themselves without your help.

It also doesn't help that you often describe the actual important parts of a move after you've made us sit through the stuffy details. And that methodology is carried through to the special mechanics, denying the reader even the most tentative understanding of what Thrall is about until after they read the attacks.

And this is clearly just degenerating into a rant, which was not my intention. The moves themselves, along with the special mechanics are both clever and perfectly suited to the character.

I'm just annoyed that the one thing you really should have improved over Arthas, readability, ended up worse than its forebear.

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Death ‘The’ Kid: First, I hate this moveset for completely ripping off Prinny’s organisation, colouring – everything presentation-wise. That coupled with the copious B code errors and childish grammar lets me know, yes, I am reading a Twilty moveset.

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Gotta admit. I lol'd. In a good way.

This isn’t bad for you per se, but really, this isn’t up to standard. I suppose you know this already, though, so I’ll just spout some positive stuff: the moveset is fun.

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That's exactly what i aim for

[COLOR=rd"]Lelouch:[/COLOR] Oh wow, another Twilty moveset already, in the same commentary. To compare, this one is a lot more well-rounded with the images, has better grammar and is generally an improvement, although they both are anime movesets and of a similar kind of character… We can all guess which was made second.

I liked how you fitted in the character’s personality with the hatred mechanic and all the moves are random, but fitting, which is what you’re all about. One last note is that those trophies descriptions are ridiculous; that’s 1224 words and no one is going to read those unless they’re mad. Just link to Wikipedia and be done with it!
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Thanks for the first part of the first paragraph commentary, and for the second part of the second paragraph.

Random + fitting = me? O_o The trophy descriptions aren't THAT bad =P
Also, spit it out! Is Lelouch a good moveset or not? Not trying to be demanding or anything...but still!

Yes, Pokemon Trainer Gold is going to be a huge (hopefully) improvement writing style. I'll double check it and everything...just don't expect it for a while or anything...

Sloth is one of seven homunculi named after the seven deadly sins from the Full Metal Alchemist series. Sloth is completely different in the manga and anime, the one you see here being the manga incarnation. Not shown in this picture, Sloth has chains around his arms that he uses considerably in the moveset and in his fight scenes/panels as whips.

Sloth is a fairly typical strong but dimwitted character. He uses words only when absolutely necessary, and doesn’t form them together all that well. His insane laziness causes him to take naps in the midst of battle and take countless years to simply build a tunnel. If Sloth were willing to actually work, he’d quite possibly be the most powerful of the homunculi, but his laziness and his lack of intelligence hold him back from the title.


Sloth isn’t named after the sin of laziness for nothing, unlike his anime counterpart. Sloth suffers from a far more severe version of Pokemon Trainer’s stamina (It’s 1.5X as bad to be precise), but unlike PT’s Pokemon Sloth doesn’t have anybody to switch out to while he rests, thus he has to find time in the middle of battle to do so. Standing perfectly still is the most basic means of doing so, causing his energy to regenerate 1.5X as fast as it normally degenerates, but taking a nap with your neutral special is the main way you’ll be replenishing your stamina, as you regenerate 5X as fast as you normally degenerate when asleep.

Oh, and please, bear with me on the order in which the moves are presented. It makes the most sense this way. It’s not perfect, but unless you want the moves completely moved out of their categories and put in a totally random order it’s the best I can do.

STANDARDS

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Standard Attack – Chain Whip



Sloth raises up his arm upon the first press of A, his arm being a htibox with average range and priority that does 7% and knockback that kills at 280%. Upon the second press of A, Sloth quickly moves his arm back down into it’s initial position for the same properties. This has below average lag.

Sloth isn’t aiming to hit with his arm, though, he’s using the chain on his arm as a flail. The end of the chain on the arm he jerked around will raise up and then slam down for 13% and knockback that kills at 180%. The chain is disjointed, but doesn’t reach out all that far from Sloth. . .

Dashing Attack - Collapse
Unlike the dashing attacks of many MYM characters that Junahu is rather disgusted with, Sloth doesn’t keep running during or after this dashing attack. Why would he want to do that? Running is far too tiresome. Instead, all of his movement instantly ceases as he falls over forward in exhaustion from having dashed. This has surprisingly little lag, and Sloth’s body is a high priority hitbox as he falls that deals 16% with knockback that kills at 110%. After completing the attack, Sloth is laying on his stomach, ready to use a situational. This is the real punisher for not having bad ending lag, as Sloth’s rising attacks don’t make him actually rise and his rolls to actually get up are very laggy and easily punishable.

TILTS

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Forward Tilt – Chain Toss



Sloth moves his arm back as if preparing for a wind up punch, then hurls it forward. This causes Sloth’s chain to fly it’s full length forward, Sloth making use of it’s range. The chain reaches two thirds of Final Destination away from Sloth with disjointed priority and does 15% with knockback that kills at 150%. This has average lag.

However, once you throw out the chain, Sloth doesn’t pull it back in. He’ll drag it along as he moves about. If you use your neutral A during this time, the end of the chain will be the part that raises up and slams down. This the main reason you’ll be wanting to throw out your chain. Using your ftilt with your chain already out will cause Sloth to pull it back in, having no hitbox and average lag. This means you can’t use the ftilt on it’s own all that well due to having to “reload” it, so you’ll mainly want to throw out your chain when left alone then rely on the neutral A.

Up Tilt – Chain Clash
Sloth thrusts his arms upwards like DK does when charging his dsmash. His arms aren’t hitboxes for this move, but this causes his chains to swing up over his head. The range is dependent on whether Sloth has sent out his chains with his ftilt and fair or not, the chains potentially able to go very high into the sky if they’re both extended out. The main part of the chains only deal 5-10% with knockback that never kills based on charge, but where the ends clap together deals 20% and vertical knockback that kills at 85%.

Keep in mind that if the chains aren’t either both extended out or both unextended, then the ends won’t clash together, thus creating no deadly hitbox. You’ll generally want the chains unextended for this move simply due to foes being unlikely to be so insanely high. This move has high starting lag and above average ending lag.


Down Tilt – Swirling Pain
Sloth flings both his arms forward for above average range and little starting lag, though bad ending lag. This deals 12% and an awkward type of set knockback. The foe travels the distance of a Battlefield platform while spinning around rapidly, dizzy, over the course of a second. Sloth is unfortunately unable to take advantage of this due to the bad ending lag of the move (Yes, the ending lag is THAT bad. Don’t whiff this.). This is only worth mentioning due to how quickly it first comes out in comparison to Sloth’s other moves. Beyond that, the move is disgusting.

AERIALS

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Neutral Aerial - Cannonball
Sloth tucks in his legs and holds onto them, going into a cannonball pose and spinning rapidly. This causes Sloth’s entire body to become a hitbox that does 18% and knockback that kills at 75%, and he has super armor for the entire duration of the move. This has surprisingly little lag for a move so powerful, but the catch is that you can’t come out of it until you hit the ground, and the move has bad landing lag

So how to make use of the move? Fistly, it sweetspots the ledge like Bowser’s down special with no lag whatsoever. Secondly, a similar effect will occur if you splash into water, and you even get a nice bonus of some water splashing up and pushing foes away slightly like FLUDD when you land.

Forward Aerial – Bound in Chains
Sloth jerks one of his arms forward to hurl forward one of his chains just as far as in his ftilt, two thirds the length of Final Destination. This has nearly identical properties to the ftilt, but in the air. The main purpose of why you’ll be using this over the grounded version, though, is that it’s also a tether recovery. This allows you to recover horizontally without using your side special to force you into slumber. Still, this is just as flawed as every other tether recovery and doesn’t automatically aim for the ledge like them, so you’ll rarely be able to make use of it. On the plus side, it goes out very far and comes out very quickly, so you might be able to grab the ledge before the foe gets on the ledge to edge hog you. This move won’t be interrupted by landing on the ground.

So the move is a tether recovery? Fascinating. Never heard that one before. Well, the chains don’t only latch onto ledges. They can also latch onto the edges of platforms that aren’t normally grabbable, such as Battlefield platforms and the obnoxious stage builder parts with ungrabbable ledges. If you bind your chain to a platform like this, then you can’t be knocked away further then the length of the chain from where you bound yourself. Foes can get around this by attacking the area the chains are bound down to and break you loose, but otherwise you’re impossible to KO.

Sloth’s fair has him launch his right arm forward while his ftilt has him launch his left arm forward. This allows you to control the two chains bound to Sloth’s arms separately, meaning you can be bound down at two separate places, as well as have two separate places where you can flail your chains with your neutral A.

Back Aerial – Kinklink
Sloth swings both of his chains out behind himself at once their full distance, then pulls them back in. If both his chains are already out via ftilt/fair, then the beginning lag of the attack is drastically reduced from it’s otherwise high lag as he only pulls the chains back in. Sloth is relatively exposed if he whiffs this if the opponent is right up in his face, but this attack has little potential to be punished from a distance.

For a brief moment in-between when Sloth throws out the chains and reels them back in, the ends of them have a grab priority hitbox, the foe getting caught up in the chains before Sloth pulls them back to him. Should Sloth grab somebody with the chains, he’ll plummet downwards for a potential Slothcide or deal 20% and knockback that kills at 80% if he lands on solid ground with them.

Up Aerial - Jumpchain
Sloth spins his chains around himself rapidly in a motion as if he were playing jumprope with it. Both chains must be extended out the same length for this move to work, or else Sloth will simply do generic upward flailing when he performs this move.

If the chains are both unextended, then the move has below average lag on both ends and the chain is a hitbox that deals 12% with knockback that kills at 160%. This can be used to help Sloth’s recovery slightly as it considerably slows his descent, but it’ll just hurt you if you spam it in a similar fashion to Mario’s side special.

If both the chains are both extended out, Sloth does the same spinning motion and the chain does the same damage/knockback, but since the chain is so much farther out, the hitbox around Sloth is very large, creating a protective barrier around Sloth. It’s pretty much impossible to get past the disjointed hitbox to Sloth if you’re outside it, but if you’re already inside the chains you can easily punish him. This doesn’t help with Sloth’s recovery at all, so use it for spacing and to block projectiles.

Down Aerial – Stomp
Sloth stomps downwards in a more exaggerated animation then Ganondorf’s dair. This is a spike just as powerful as Ganondorf’s that does 21%! This has starting lag comparable to Ike’s fsmash. . .Good god. Seriously? Sad, but true. Thankfully once the starting lag is passed the move is brief in duration and there’s only below average ending lag, but the starting lag makes this impossible to use for actual gimping. Range and priority are a bit better then Ganon’s dair.

So what –do- you use the incredibly laggy spike for? Well, if you hit the ground with the kick, a large indent in the ground is made, identical to the one in Sloth’s fsmash (The very next move you’re about to read), giving you an alternative means of creating them. In addition, you can have one hole each from Sloth’s dair and fsmash, allowing you to make two holes instead of just one.

SMASHES

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Forward Smash – Behemoth’s Tomb
Sloth rips out a chunk of the ground from where he’s standing, then smashes it forward. The chunk of ground is as long as Sloth is tall. This is slightly laggier then Ike’s fsmash. It has disjointed priority and deals 26%-34% with knockback that kills at 80%-60% based on charge time.

After successfully finishing the move, the land that Sloth ripped up out of the ground will stay where Sloth slammed it down, leaving a hole as long as Sloth is tall and as deep as Mario is tall, and also leaves the ground which Sloth ripped out in front of the hole, significantly altering the stage layout. Needless to say, this can’t be used on platforms that aren’t as deep as Mario’s height, such as the paper thin platforms of Battlefield.

Now, here’s where the stage altering begins to serve a purpose. If you’re in the hole you created when Sloth goes to take a nap, Sloth will pull over the ground he ripped out over himself to form a sort of tomb as he goes to sleep, burying himself within the stage as he slumbers. This makes him completely impervious to all damage, and he bursts up out of the ground once his nap time is up with little lag, though he refuses to stay underground for more then 5 seconds due to lack of air. You’ll generally want to open up a tomb and always retreat back to it when your time starts ticking down.

Be warned, though. Characters with moves that can go inside the stage like Snake and his dsmash and MYM characters who can alter the stage layout can dig up Sloth from his tomb, so beware these match ups. There can only be one tomb out at a time regardless of the amount of Sloths.

Up Smash – Chain Swing
Sloth thrusts his arms upwards and his chains and his chains along with him, just like in his utilt. In fact, the entire move seems identical to the utilt at first, but the chain is a weak hitbox that does 1-2% and the part where the chains clash together does no damage, but has a grab hitbox, and if they’re hit by it Sloth hastily reels the chains back in to get the foe in his regular grab. This move looks like it starts up slow like the utilt, but in the middle of the animation it suddenly speeds up, having half the lag on both ends. This gives the two moves decent mindgame potential when used together.

So an upward grab? That’s it? Well, if your chains are unextended and you stand under a drop through platform when you use this move, the chains will latch onto it, and Sloth will then proceed to swing around the platform, rapidly going above and under it as he swings. Contact with Sloth as he spins about like this does 27-39% and knockback that kills at 75-45%. Sloth has super armor during the move. He has to keep spinning like this for at least 3 seconds, after which he can press A to casually come down with below average lag or launch off with his momentum into his nair by pressing B.

On long drop through platforms, such as the one on Smashville, Sloth can move back and forth along the platform as he spins around it at a decent speed. This can give him massive stage control on stages such as that, but if he keeps spinning around the same platform for 6 seconds, he’ll cause it to crash into the ground from his weight and give himself abysmal ending lag. The fallen platform stays in the background and never comes back on it’s own, but if Sloth comes in front of it and uses his usmash, he’ll lift it back up into position with high lag, repairing it. The earlier given example of the Smashville drop through platform is absolutely ideal to use this on due to how the platform moves back and forth.

To use this on drop through platforms below you, you can input a dsmash right after inputting the usmash to cause Sloth to aim downwards instead of upwards. This allows you to use this on the main platforms of stages like Delfino Plaza and Halberd which also happen to be drop through. You can destroy these sorts of platforms like any other, though you’ll kill yourself in the process and they’ll be restored the next time the stage scrolls to bring them back on screen.

Down Smash – Steel Whirlwind



Sloth strikes a T pose as he extends out his arms, then starts spinning around rapidly. Sloth’s body is a decent priority hitbox that does 23-34 hits of 1% and flinching with the last hit doing knockback that kills at 250-200% based on charge. Very little lag, but a ridiculously long duration that begs for enemies to come from above and dair you.

But why would the foe have to do that instead of hitting you normally? Well, if your chains are thrown out with your ftilt/fair, they’ll spin around with Sloth in a circle of death. The chains do the same damage as Sloth, but all in one hit, and the knockback is vertical knockback that kills at 150-100% based on charge.

While this move is infinitely more appealing to use if you’ve thrown your chains out in the distance to give the move truly absurd range, if either of your chains are out they’ll tangle around Sloth as he rapidly spins them around, the range of the attack slowly decreasing over the long duration, causing him to be completely bound by his own chains by the end of the attack. He falls over in the direction he was facing after the attack is finished laggily (Ready to use a stomach rising attack), and he can’t use any other attacks (Besides rising attacks) until he throws his chains back out again with his ftilt and fair to free himself.



Neutral Special – Slack Off



Sloth goes into a pose similar to Dedede’s crouch and falls asleep with little lag. From here, there’s absolutely nothing you can do, but you regenerate your stamina incredibly quickly, making this a vital tool in Sloth’s arsenal. This means you’ll be wanting to slack off whenever you have a free moment. When the foe’s respawning is an obvious time, but another one is when they’re just off stage, seeing Sloth can’t gimp to save his life anyway. You can come in and out of slumbering with below average lag, so don’t be afraid to use it, but if your foe will soon be up in your face again it’d be a better idea to just stand still and not be greedy. Being put to sleep by things such as Jigglypuff’s singing or Raiden’s sleeper darts will regenerate your stamina just as if you manually went to sleep.

Side Special – Titan Rush



With very little beginning lag, Sloth goes just barely under the length of Battlefield, turning into a blur as he does so. How the hell does Sloth move so d*mn fast? Sloth is very surprisingly the fastest homunculus, he’s simply too lazy to use it. He uses all his speed in one burst in this move. . .Any foes who get hit by Sloth as he zips by at a blinding speed take 17% and knockback that kills at 90%. This move is beastly.

If this is used in the air, Sloth instantly goes into helpless after going the set distance. After touching the ground from recovering or if this move is used on the ground, Sloth will be exhausted and begin napping and refuse to get up for 3 seconds(Though he has super armor during this forced sleeping and no lag upon getting up, so a foe can’t just fully charge a smash to send him back out again). During this forced sleeping, Sloth won’t regain any stamina.

Sloth essentially has an absolutely perfect horizontal recovery, but upon reaching the stage he’ll take plenty more damage and possibly get sent right back out again. In addition, Sloth can’t recover vertically at all, so this is certainly one of his low points.

Up Special – Death Leap
This move is extremely comparable to Dedede’s up special, but Sloth only goes half as high as the floaty penguin king before crashing back down and doesn’t create stars at his sides when he lands, the move having worse ending lag then Dedede’s up special to boot. In return, Sloth has super armor for the entire move doesn’t have to cancel it to grab ledges, and his body is a hitbox that does upward knockback as he ascends, though it’s still a rather bad trade off overall. This’ll rarely be able to get you back to the stage from any significant distance, though it’s vastly preferred over the side special whenever possible.

Despite not needing to cancel the move to grab ledges, Sloth is still able to. What purpose does this serve? When Sloth lands on the ground, he slams into it with such force that his feet get ingrained in the stage. Sloth is unable to move like this, though on the plus side he takes no knockback (Though he still takes as much hitstun as ever). Canceling the move prevents this from happening. Sloth’s feet will be knocked out of the ground if he takes 30%, though he can come out of it earlier if he so desires by using his up special again to leap up out of the ground.

Down Special – Boulder Smash
This is nothing whatsoever like Charizard’s side special, so remove any notions of that idea immediately. Sloth lifts a massive boulder up out of the ground, and then carries it around slowly until you press B again to throw it. This works just like when a character is carrying Bonsly (Who Sloth can carry around with no speed penalty or lag throwing him) in terms of how slow Sloth moves and the arc the boulder’s thrown in, though other characters besides Sloth aren’t strong enough to budge the boulder. The boulder is double Kirby’s size, and deals 1.5X the damage and knockback of Bonsly when thrown. You can also press A to casually put the boulder down for weak set knockback and 5% without throwing it.

While this is incredibly powerful, the move is too laggy to really use all that well. Thankfully though, there’s little lag in taking out the rock and setting it down, so you can use it as a decent means of approach, the boulder blocking projectiles or pretty much any attacks from the front as you slowly come toward your foe.

And now you finally get to see why the specials came so late. . .If you latch onto the boulder with a chain via ftilt/fair, you’ll be unable to go farther then the distance of the chain from it. . .and be unable to be knocked away farther from the boulder then the distance of the chain. While this may sound like just an alternative to latching onto platform edges, foes can’t break the chain bindings to the boulder, unlike platform edges, keeping you securely chained to the stage. They can, however, attack the boulder to try to force it off the edge to drag you along with it, though the boulder has Metal Mario’s weight and infinite stamina. If you dig up a pit with your fsmash/dair and place the boulder inside it, the boulder will be firmly secured in the ground and foes will be unable to move it at all, keeping you 100% safe from being KOd.

While Sloth isn’t strong enough to use the boulder as a flail on the end of his chain with only one attached, if you fasten both chains onto the boulder he’ll be able to use it as a deadly ball and chain and move about freely, albeit at half his already sluggish movement speed and he falls twice as fast when he’s at the maximum distance of his chain and pulling the boulder along with him. Using your neutral A, bair, or dsmash with the boulder attached to the end of your chains gives you a massive deadly hitbox on the end. Whatever you do with the boulder though, keep in mind that the moment you set it down or throw it, it’ll vanish in 15 seconds.



Grab - Normal
Sloth grabs the foe in an animation nearly identical to DK’s, though he has more range and slightly more lag on his grab. His regular grab is overall better then DK’s, though his dashing grab is awkwardly laggy. Nothing to see here.

Pummel – Doze Off
Sloth suddenly falls asleep standing while he holds the foe, regaining his stamina at 3X the rate it normally degenerates. While this isn’t as fast as he normally regenerates when sleeping, standing obviously isn’t as comfortable as lying down. Pressing the pummel input a second time causes you to wake up and be able to throw the victim.

It’s good to get in a bit of sleep before you throw the foe, but it’s unlikely you’ll be able to get in anything worthwhile and still manage to get in a throw until higher percents. Don’t get too greedy with this or you’ll lose your free throw.

Forward Throw – Chain Throw
Sloth ties the end of the chain around the foe then throws out the chain in his ftilt, the foe taking the same damage as in the move. If the chain from Sloth’s ftilt (Not his fair) has already been thrown out, Sloth has to pull in the chain before he performs the throw, during which time the foe can easily escape.

After the throw is complete, Sloth and the foe will be bound together by the chain, unable to move farther then the distance of the chain from each other. If Sloth uses his ftilt to reel back in the chain, he’ll cause the foe to trip as he causes them to come back in, in a perfect position to be regrabbed for a chain throw! If you try to just use this throw again, though, Sloth will untie the chain that bounds him and the foe together. . .There goes the potential chain throw. Ah well. It still sets you up to use another throw, at least.

If you don’t use the fthrow again, the foe automatically breaks loose from the opposite end of the chain after 15 seconds. In addition to the obvious use of this throw for combos, you can use this when at high percents to render the foe unable to KO you. If you use this on a teammate, you can make both of yourselves nearly impossible to KO, but keep in mind you can’t link yourself to the same foe more then once every 30 seconds.

Oh god, there’s more, just for one throw? Sorry, sorry, just bare with it a little longer. . .Anyway, if you go to try to pick up a boulder you’ve created when you’re bound together with your foe, Sloth will take off the chain from his arm and tie it to the boulder. This robs you of your ftilt until you get the chain back, but the foe is stuck to the boulder while you can move about freely, albeit they can still attack it to move it. . .Unless you put it in a pit from your fsmash/dair. If used properly, this gives you plenty of time to sleep in peace.

To get your chain back, simply press A next to the end of the chain once the foe has escaped from it. If the foe manages to knock the boulder off the stage and it still has the chain attached, don’t worry. It’ll respawn around your arm in 10 seconds.

Back Throw – Gravedigger
Sloth smacks the foe into the ground behind him for 7%, leaving the foe in their downed state. This is relatively fast, but that’s all that’s notable about it. at first glance.

That’s all to the throw, unless you use it in a hole dug with Sloth’s fsmash/dair, in which case Sloth will hastily pull the ground over the foe to fill in the hole to trap them in the tomb. The foe is stuck inside for a full 5 seconds, and there’s nothing button mashing can do to help them. While this does no extra damage then normal, it allows Sloth plenty of time to take a nap, set up his chains, or dig another tomb.

Up Throw – Spine Breaker
Sloth lifts the foe above his head and lets out a mighty roar as he tries to snap the foe in half. While he probably would be able to do this to some of the lighter characters, Smash censors this visually delightful feast from occurring. This deals 10% to the foe and causes the foe to fall down onto the ground in pain afterwards. This throw’s damage output is –okay-, but Wario’s fthrow and Bowser’s dthrow do 12%, so it’s far from spectacular.

What makes this throw one of Sloth’s best, though, is the fact that he breaks the foe’s spine in his attempt to rip them in half, a cracking noise like Snake’s pummel (Though more exaggerated) heard when he does this throw. This prevents the foe from crouching (And thus they can’t use their dtilts/dsmashes/down specials), jumping higher then a short hop, double jumping, and most importantly prevents them from turning around. This lasts 10 seconds. This is any slow hulk’s dream, being able to bring down a foe to their level and make them easy to approach. So long as you stay behind the foe, there’s really not all that much they can do to you besides short hopped bairs, seeing they can’t turn around.

Oh, and remember that horrible dtilt? When the uthrow is taken into account, it’s actually a decent addition to Sloth’s arsenal. If the foe has a broken spine when you use the dtilt on them, it’ll deal double damage to them due to it rapidly forcing them to turn around for a very impressive 24%, though keep in mind this’ll be just what the foe needs to get their spine back into shape, so use the dtilt right when it’d heal automatically anyway.

Down Throw – Body Slam
Sloth releases the foe, then quickly jumps up and body slams them. . .Ouch. This deals 14% and knockback that kills at 120%. In addition to being Sloth's only throw for actually KOing his victims (Which it's pretty d*mn good at), this also creates a pit like the ones from his fsmash and dair where he body slammed the foe. It counts as one created by the fsmash by default, though if there's already one created by the fsmash it'll count for the dair. If he already has two pits out, no pit will be created.

SITUATIONALS

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Ledge Attack – Butt Slam
Sloth heaves himself up onto the platform in one fluid motion backwards, using his bulk as a hitbox. This seems familiar. . .Turns out it’s DK’s old ledge attack from 64. This does 8% and set knockback that pushes foes off the stage a bit like Ganon’s ledge attack, has average priority and below average end lag with very little start lag. You can use this to buy yourself a small bit of time to rest while your foe’s off stage briefly, although if you’re used to fast characters with good spikes you’ll probably try to gimp them like an idiot and get killed yourself.

Ledge Attack Over 100% - Laziness
Sloth isn’t all that hurt after reaching 100%, just tired and feeling lazier then ever. He slowly clambers up onto the ledge for 5 multiple hits of 2% and flinching as he flails about clumsily. The attack is laggy, and it can’t be used for edgehogging due to the invincibility frames being very brief. What makes it potentially useful is that if there’s a pit from your fsmash/dair where Sloth flails up onto the ledge, he’ll instantly go to sleep inside it, pulling the ground up over himself.

Rising Attack (Either side) – Rollover
Sloth rolls over onto his either side, trying to get comfortable before he falls asleep. This does 8% with lengthy hitstun, Sloth’s body being an average priority hitbox. This is actually impressively fast, and can combo up for some quick damage . .But you have to be knocked over in the first place to do it. Your dash and dsmash can knock you down on demand, but your dsmash is rather impractical for this purpose. Your best bet would be hitting your foe with a dash then following it up with some “rising” attacks.

Due to the long hitstun and low lag, this could be used to cheaply combo up for as much damage as you desire. . .If not for the fact that you have to eventually go to sleep, interrupting your infinite. If you lay down for longer then 4 seconds at once, Sloth enters a forced sleeping state identical to the one from his side special. It’s only natural, seeing the whole reason he’s rolling over so much is he’s trying to get comfortable for a nap.



A complete philosopher’s stone spawns in front of Sloth as the camera zooms in on him, and he promptly devours it whole, absorbing all it’s power in a brilliant red flash. This restores Sloth’s stamina and prevents it from going down whatsoever. In addition, when Sloth stands perfectly still, he regenerates 1% second, and he regenerates 5% per second while sleeping with his neutral special. This lasts 60 seconds.

If you manage to sleep constantly throughout the entire final smash, you can potentially heal up to 300%, but this is near impossible. This final smash is more of a slow burner then others and one you’ll want to use towards the end of your stock to heal yourself. You’ll ultimately be playing the same way with it, but instead of being forced to do it to keep your power you’ll be healing yourself by stopping to rest, making you nearly unstoppable.



Early on in the match, you’ll want to get in a grab and break the foe’s back with a uthrow, then stay behind them and set up your two pits via fsmash/dair. These pits never go away via normal means until you sleep in them, and few foes have the capability to remove them themselves. You want your pits up as soon as possible. If your foe is giving you a particularly annoying time with their bairs while their spine is broken, extend out your chains and make yourself some space with your uair, then proceed to finish making your pits. Once the foe’s back is about to heal, quickly go dtilt them for some quick damage.

This is the most awkward phase of Sloth’s game, just racking up general damage. Aside from the uthrow/dtilt combo, other possibilities include dashing attack to spammed rising attacks, but for the most part you’ll be forced to use just a few powerful hits to get up the foe’s damage. It’s perfectly normal for Sloth to get extremely behind in the damage count here, don’t worry. He doesn’t need to rack the percents that high anyway.

As you fight, you’ll generally want to keep at a distance and stand still as much as possible. Save your pits for sleeping tombs for when your stamina gets low, and try to use them after landing a hit to ensure you don’t get attacked as you go into the pit. Always try to keep at least one pit in reserve, though. If you use your last one, try to make another ASAP. You don’t want to have no tomb to go back to when your stamina is in the red.

While Sloth can get comboed to all hell, particularly due to his weight and size and giving his foe 3 free seconds to rack his damage when he recovers from a long distance via Side Special, his highlight aside from his power is his durability. It’s not his recovery, seeing it’s not all that spectacular. It’s his ability to chain himself to the stage. While chaining yourself to a platform is only a temporary solution, if you put a boulder in a pit and chain yourself to it you’re invincible. Your up special is a quicker option for this when you cement your feet in the ground, but provides less freedom due to restricting your movement.

Once you get yourself to a high percentage, your first priority should always be to bound down to –something-. If you can manage to do that, it doesn’t matter how high your percentage gets, you’ll just simply never go down. Foes who focus on taking chances to get your damage all the higher will do little to stop you when they should be focusing on preventing yourself from being bound to the stage.

KOing the foe obviously isn’t a problem once they’re up to a remotely acceptable percentage, but it can be tough which option to choose among your many absurdly powerful moves. It’s really no contest, though. The side special is without a doubt your best option. . .Assuming you don’t whiff it. However; there are ways of getting around it. If you make a pit on one end of the stage and use your side special facing towards it from the other end, Sloth will end his mad dash in the pit and go to sleep safe and sound inside it. Thus you have a all powerful move with no start lag or penalty for missing, albeit it requires set up and is somewhat predictable once you get into position for it.

Well, that’s all well and good. . .But what about moving stages where Sloth doesn’t have time to make pits, hmm? Unlike most characters which require set up, Sloth is perfectly viable if not better on moving stages! . .Or at least the competitively viable ones, anyway. Your usmash and nair are the main things that make life far easier on these stages, considering you can spin around the main platform and even potentially destroy it. On Halberd, you only have two platforms to destroy before there’s nothing to stand on at all, so if you get ahead you pretty much have the match. Delfino Plaza too regularly renews its’ platforms and has too many to destroy them all before it lands, but the fact Delfino has water is extremely appealing for your nair. You can abuse your nair more then characters can abuse their spikes on Delfino, and your usmash still remains a beastly option despite being unable to suicide like with Halberd.

So overall, ignore your damage percentage as it climbs ever higher and just stay bound to the stage as best you can, only coming out from your bindings to take naps if absolutely necessary. It’s safer to just stand in place, and seeing Sloth fights at a range so well anyway you have little reason to budge from your well fortified position anyway.



Always stay up close to Sloth whenever possible. Sloth performs best when you’re at a range and give him plenty of time to bound himself as he pleases, but there’s not all that much he can do to resist if you stay in his face constantly. Just take care that you don’t get grabbed while you pester him about, as his uthrow can severely limit your options and allow him to set up with ease, or god forbid, actually get a few hits in on you.

Don’t camp Sloth. Sloth is a god when fighting at a range, seeing his chains shred through pretty much any projectile whatsoever, and doing so just gives him more time to set up. If you somehow manage to annoy him with projectiles, he can just make a boulder to absorb all your projectiles with ease.

Don’t get cocky if you’re ahead in damage percentage. If anything, unless you’re AT LEAST 50% ahead of him, you should be shaking in your boots. Once you get him up to a high enough percentage to finish him, stop focusing on attacking him and instead focus on preventing him from binding himself to the stage. Only if he’s unbound should you attempt to actually use a KO move on him, and during the rare instances you’ll catch him off his guard with no chains attached to anything when he’s at high percents, pursue him relentlessly like you did when you were first racking his damage. If you don’t kill him now, you probably never will.

Good characters to use against Sloth are ones with ways of getting him out of the ground while he sleeps and ones with good bairs, as if you have a good bair having that be your only way of hitting Sloth isn’t a problem, making his uthrow rather useless. Considering how easy it is to damage rack Sloth, power characters tend to perform better against him.



VS. Meta Knight – 75/25, Sloth’s favor
Sloth’s priority eats through even mach tornado with little to no problem, and Sloth outranges MK just as well if not better then DK. Sure, MK can rack up Sloth’s damage to all hell regardless, but that’s hardly something to brag about, seeing Ganondorf can rack up Sloth’s damage just fine. Considering both of Sloth’s recovery specials both abuse super armor, there’s little Meta Knight can do to gimp him either. Meta Knight has considerable problems finishing Sloth off, though Sloth couldn’t have it easier.

VS. Snake – 70/30, Snake’s favor
Snake’s dsmash is the main thing he has going for him here. Snake gives Sloth little to no chance to rest underground thanks to it, meaning Snake’s main strategy should be to play defensively with his mines while Sloth’s power goes away from his laziness. All hope isn’t lost for Sloth as he can still stand still to regenerate stamina, but this isn’t nearly as effective unless you set yourself up properly. Considering Snake’s bair sucks, it’s possible, but Sloth will without a doubt have to work much harder then Snake for the win.

VS. King Dedede – 0/100, King Dedede’s favor
Dedede absolutely ***** Sloth in every way imaginable. The chain grab is obviously the first thing that leaps out at you, and seeing Sloth is so huge and heavy he can be made as big a victim to it if not bigger then Bowser. In addition, Dedede’s bair is godly, thus Sloth’s uthrow is of little use to him. Sloth has to keep Dedede at a distance if he ever hopes to win, but seeing one grab is all the damage Dedede needs and that he can easily KO the beast anyway, there’s pretty much nothing Sloth do to resist.

VS. Acid Seaforce – 85/15, Sloth’s favor
Yes, Seaforce can rack up Sloth’s damage. What else is new? Sloth feels no pressure at all from his percentage climbing up, he just casually continues to bind himself to the stage and tanks all the damage without a second thought. Considering Seaforce has problems finishing off foes such as even Jigglypuff, it’s nigh impossible for him to kill Sloth. As if that wasn’t enough, if Sloth takes a nap, all poisons are instantly cured, if he really insists on keeping his damage low.

VS. Raiden – 60/40, Sloth’s favor
The main thing Sloth has going for him here is that Raiden’s sleeping darts are near useless against Sloth, as he regains stamina when asleep. So long as you chain yourself up before you fall asleep, there’s not much he can do to you. If Raiden tries to push you away in a locker to your doom, he won’t be able to push you any farther then the chains will allow, so he has problems killing you just like everybody else. Still, if Raiden can catch you with your chains down, he does have some surprisingly powerful moves to finish you with, meaning the match up definitely isn’t too one sided.

VS. Alphonse – 50/50
This is a rather intriguing match up. Of course, the main thing that leaps out at one at first for Sloth’s favor is that he’s so massive that he’s nearly entirely immune to Al’s chain grab, but he’s sadly far too large to go inside Al’s armor to control him. In addition, Sloth can destroy Alphonse’s transmutation circles by smashing them into the ground and making pits.

So why is the match up even then? Alphonse’s dair earthquakes can force Sloth up out of the ground while he’s sleeping, and Al has no shortage of methods with which to KO Sloth. Al will want to play defensively while Sloth’s stamina ticks down, hiding behind walls where he can make transmutation circles in peace and dairing whenever he tries to sleep. If Al can force Sloth to go on the offensive, the match up can go more his way.

VS. Miracle Matter – 90/10, Sloth’s favor
Considering Matter is only able to use a few of his moves at any given time, you know exactly what’s coming, helping you greatly in this match up. There’s little need to even bother binding yourself to the stage when you’re up against damage rackers like cutter and spark matter, but you’re given more then enough warning of when to do so when bomb and stone matter show up. In addition, when Miracle Matter takes a good couple seconds to change to his next form is a great time to make another pit or climb into one to rest. This is one of Sloth’s easiest match ups. A shame Matter can’t use more of his options at once. . .

VS. Ryuk – 80/20, Sloth’s favor
Sloth can just bind himself to the stage or hide underground the moment the death note is about to go off, it’s pretty much impossible to use it to finish him. If Ryuk wants to have any hope whatsoever of winning, he has to never fall behind in stock count and KO Sloth without his death note, then suffer the penalty for breaking the rules. While this is possible, it’s far from easy.

VS. Metal Man – 40/60, Metal Man’s favor
Metal Man’s dair projectile which travels through ground can hit Sloth while he’s napping inside the stage. While this won’t dig him up like some other moves, it causes him to awaken from his sleep and damages him, so it may as well. While Metal Man isn’t an all star at KOing, Metal Man can build up the stage with his ridiculously large arsenal of traps as he sees fit while Sloth’s stamina goes down with him unable to do much to stop it. Still, Metal Man won’t have an easy time designing the stage, as Sloth is excellent at destroying stage traps by obliterating platforms via usmash and making pits. Metal Man has the match up, but he’ll have to play very conservatively and he’ll still have a hard time finishing Sloth.

VS. Arthas – 25/75, Arthas’ favor
Considering how long it’s gonna take anybody at all to KO Sloth, that naturally means all match ups against him are gonna be rather lengthy. . .Sounds great to Arthas. Gives him more then enough time to build an army. While Sloth will probably get ahead in the first stock, he’ll of taken so long to do it that by the middle of the second stock Arthas will have plenty of little helpers to pester Sloth and make life miserable for him. By the third stock. . .Ouch. Nasty stuff there. Sloth isn’t too fond of frost wyrms. Sloth can prevent this by killing the acolytes early on, but Arthas should be able to easily subdue the hulking behemoth due to his slowness.

VS. Count Cannoli – 15/85, Count Cannoli’s favor
Sloth is pretty d*mn easy to steal moves from, and considering how much his moves all rely on each other, just losing a single move can screw over many other moves in a domino like effect. Considering how basic of inputs his ftilt and fair are yet how vital they are to his game, Cannoli is pretty likely to cripple you severely with every button input he snatches. There really aren’t many button inputs you can afford to lose to the count here, hence why the match up is so strongly in his favor.

VS. Envy – 15/85, Envy’s favor
Considering Envy refuses to die in the traditional manner and requires damage racking to kill, Sloth’s pretty d*mn screwed here, as he somehow has to get Envy to 200% to kill him. This is a very long and tedious match up as both homunculi refuse to die, but considering Sloth is mostly just sponging up hits while Envy attacks him relentlessly, it’s very one sided. At least Envy can’t use his fthrow on you. The two homunculi complement each other decently as partners due to them both being such survivalists. You’d better convince Envy to let you onto his side or be doomed to face this match up.

EXTRAS

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Up Taunt - Yawn
Sloth stretches up to the sky and lets out a big yawn.

Side Taunt – Pitiful Foes
Sloth snorts in a high and mighty fashion then says “You not worth the effort.”.

Down Taunt – King of the Underground
Sloth turns to face the screen, roars, then beats his chest mightily, looking far more fearsome then DK’s more casual version of this taunt.

Entrance – Beast Awakened
Sloth bursts out from the ground as if he were slumbering inside it with his fsmash/dair.

Win Pose - Slumber
Sloth sleep. What? You want Sloth pose dramatically? Too tiring!

Loss Pose - Slumber
Sloth sleep. While Sloth could clap in Sloth’s sleep to satisfy your petty demands, Sloth above that. Ice Climbers not clap anyway, why Sloth?

I appreciate the organization comment. I'm just about to finish the final smash and add in specials. Then, I'll meet all the requirements.

I'm gonna add more once it's finished, I just really wanna get it done soon so it doesn't look like I submitted the set too early.

Hobbes (as it is right now) looks pretty good, Straked. Quite the generic move here and there, a few grammatical errors, but the organization is really impressive. Overall, an interesting thing you got goin'.

I'm starting to feel more at home here.

Yeah, that's why I'm doing a run-down and fixing all of the mistakes. It's quite challenging to think of moves for a simple tiger.

The Final Smash seems to make up for any of those flaws. Thanks for the critique, Clow.

Uhh, all these movesets to comment on.

I'll get to it.

Maybe.

Sloth is excellent, I HATE the character, but there are some very interesting attacks in there, namely the Steel Whirlwind and a few others I forget.

I'm stealing your method of stats by the way.

EDIT: Straked, I'm doing a moveset for both Calvin and Hobbes at some point, but yours is drastically different from mine, so it doesn't matter. Just thought I'd say. Yours is going nicely, by the way. You had the same idea for a FS as me, but that's alright. I'll think of another.