D.B.R. Presents: GENESIS! RESULTS-Melee: Mango. Brawl: To Be Decided

darkatma · Jul 12, 2009

"Sets are best of 3 until Winners/Losers bracket Semi-finals are reached. Semi-finals to Grand Finals will be Best out of 5."

*****es.

Queen B. Kyon · Jul 12, 2009

Hungrybox just told me there going to finish the set..

Timo · Jul 12, 2009

Alphican said:
Everyone who is crying over the rules plz stfu. They agreed to a bo3 and that's what they played. Whether or not they were aware of the rules is their own fault, and in this case it led to M2K's fall.

They really both agreed to a bo3?
at the beginning of the set? or at the end when they thought that it's over with a bo3?

Infernum · Jul 12, 2009

"Armada got jv3 stocked by Shiz in an earlier match"
Armada won the set. Stop failing please.

NO JOHNS.

C.box · Jul 12, 2009

Lets gather around the campfire, and sing our campfiresong!

LLDL · Jul 12, 2009

It has nothing t do with american and europe. It has to do with realising that a set could go wither way, and that the set is not legit.

SENG · Jul 12, 2009

CaptainCrunch said:
I think HBOX should go on since he has a better chance of winning it all as compared to shiz.

really? i would think shiz has a better chance, it jus seems like he sucks against puff.

ANTi_ · Jul 12, 2009

Kyon_Owitawa said:
Hungrybox just told me there going to finish the set..

istudying · Jul 12, 2009

Armada has to play Winner Finals vs Mango?

#HBC | Mac · Jul 12, 2009

Cosmo! said:
if shizwiz gets to play darkrain i call that huge bull**** cause hungrybox already beat him. throw a bye in there if hungry forfeits.

I think it's ok, I mean zhu and ss did the same thing at Mango juice.

R3N0 · Jul 12, 2009

the latter timo

Pi · Jul 12, 2009

Here's some facts to consider;

1)Ultimately DBR could have said they needed to play the final match(es), they didn't
2)Armada could have agree'd to play M2K in the final matches and forfeited if he lost, He didn't
3)If DBR makes it a best 3/5, that's what it needs to be, if there was a misunderstanding then it should have been cleared up and played out
4)Any self respecting confident player would have had no problem finishing the set, and I suspect DBR would have had no problem allowing them to finish the set

White_Mike · Jul 12, 2009

anthony000 said:
I really think most people in here saying "M2k was cheated" and "they shoulda finished the set" really wouldn't be saying that if it had been the other way around. The fact is, we're in an American dominated forum, and most people here are biased.

I honestly wanted to see M2K win, I won't lie.

But I still wanted a great epic set.

If it were the other way around I still would have wanted a continuation, I wanted a set absent of johns, and then this happens.

jc_off_the_heezay · Jul 12, 2009

Kyon_Owitawa said:
Hungrybox just told me there going to finish the set..

Another rumor? -_-

Sneak8288 · Jul 12, 2009

lol how did they agree to a bo3?... you guys say it like they sat down and was like yea this set is gonna be a best of 3 because i dont want to potentially play 5 matches. When it comes down to it... rules are rules

craiigg · Jul 12, 2009

x After Dawn x said:
How about because M2K has proven himself in the past by beasting the best players all over the world whereas Armada has only beaten...Shiz, for top players? And he hasn't even beaten M2K yet because they cut off the set? Armada got jv3 stocked by Shiz in an earlier match, and he also lost to some random scrub Ganon in pools. M2K is a hundred times more technical, not to mention that his mindgames are insane and he has 4-stocked and totally owned top players whereas Armada usually sticks in Europe.

M2K > Armada, I don't care who wins the set. I can at least say M2K is a good contender even after he's lost most of his Melee skills since picking up Brawl.

lol JOHN MORE PLEASEEEE

armada 4 stocked masashi, m2k got 2-0'd in pools by some random scrub

goodbye logic.

even though i agree that the results aren't fair cause of DBR, it still makes you an idiot

is that 2 times you've underestimated armada and was 100% on m2k and shiz winning? go on have another shot.

SwiftBass · Jul 12, 2009

LLDL · Jul 12, 2009

C.box said:
Lets gather around the campfire, and sing our campfiresong!

the campfire song song!

VA · Jul 12, 2009

Let usa sit on their qq and swivel. Too bad, you can't claim **** over Europe if Mango gets beaten too.

Syde7 · Jul 12, 2009

I'm still not rappaport.

Also, I assume its mango vs Armada now?

(NYC)Fab · Jul 12, 2009

Fletch said:
Never is.

Anyways, Armada should have played it out, kind of cheapens his win now and gives johns for everyone else. Not that I want M2K, but if it was in the rules, that's how they should have played it. Ignorance of the law isn't an excuse, neither should be ignorance of the rules.

Agreed hes being soft by not playing it out when its his fault just as much as m2k for not know they had to play 3-5

Ignatius · Jul 12, 2009

anthony000 said:
I really think most people in here saying "M2k was cheated" and "they shoulda finished the set" really wouldn't be saying that if it had been the other way around. The fact is, we're in an American dominated forum, and most people here are biased.

Yes, I would, because having half the bracket in semis be 3/5, and the other half be 2/3 is somewhat absurd to me.

Pink Shinobi is still playing Zhu, I believe, but Im also not sure of the set count.

SSBMaaron · Jul 12, 2009

x After Dawn x said:
LOL not even close, the only two Europeans that could come close are Armada and perhaps Amsah. Stop ****ing meatriding on Europe all day, you guys aren't even that good besides your two prized pros.

you have no idea...

Ballistics · Jul 12, 2009

**** someone just make a chatroom because thats basically what this forum is

AvaricePanda · Jul 12, 2009

It doesn't matter if they agreed to a bo3. You make it sound like they said, "what do you want to play?" "oh, okay, let's do a bo3"

They did a bo3 because they just ASSUMED it was a bo3. It wasn't. Chibo told them the real rules, and Mango and Scar did a bo5 afterwards, yet DBR stepped in with Armada vs. M2K and gave Armada the win.

They went back on their rules TWICE. With like $4000 on the line, you can't say, "Oh well, who cares now." Armada's going to get so much **** that he doesn't deserve, and M2K may have missed an opportunity to win 2000 dollars.

t3h Icy · Jul 12, 2009

What's the link for all 5 Twitters on AiB? I closed my browser and can't find it again. =/

White_Mike · Jul 12, 2009

tekkie said:
I hope the Grand Finals agrees to a Best of 1.

Or a Best of 17.

EXACTLY

*******es talking about what they agreed too? So in theory a set of 17 is possible?

RULES ARE RULES.

VSC.D-Torr · Jul 12, 2009

*_ANTi_* said:

LOL Anti

10chars

A-D · Jul 12, 2009

Put it this way .. what if they played a best of 5 from the beginning and m2k won the set 3-2... But armada was 2-1 somewhere in the set..and after that they found out it was a best of 3... would you give the win to armada?? The answer is NO..So this actually IS the right way

Alejandro_P · Jul 12, 2009

I don't ****ing understand you foreigners. If Armada lost you would want him to get the 3/5 that the rules state. At least have the same ****ing courtesy you ignorant frenchies.

CaptainCrunch · Jul 12, 2009

Angrylobster said:
So whos left from FL right now? Just shiz?

HBOX beat shiz but he hasn't decided wether to go on or just forfeit to shiz. I think he just decided to move on though against darkrain.

x After Dawn x · Jul 12, 2009

craiigg said:
lol JOHN MORE PLEASEEEE

armada 4 stocked masashi, m2k got 2-0'd in pools by some random scrub

goodbye logic.

even though i agree that the results aren't fair cause od DBR, it still makes you an idiot

is that 2 times you've underestimated armada and was 100% on m2k and shiz winning? go on have another shot.

M2K did that purposely to avoid some players in a bracket had he gone 1st in pools.

I haven't ever underestimated Armada yet either so stfu. I've just been rooting for Shiz and M2K. I really don't care about Mango, though.

Mind Trick · Jul 12, 2009

x After Dawn x said:
How about because M2K has proven himself in the past by beasting the best players all over the world whereas Armada has only beaten...Shiz, for top players? And he hasn't even beaten M2K yet because they cut off the set? Armada got jv3 stocked by Shiz in an earlier match, and he also lost to some random scrub Ganon in pools. M2K is a hundred times more technical, not to mention that his mindgames are insane and he has 4-stocked and totally owned top players whereas Armada usually sticks in Europe.

M2K > Armada, I don't care who wins the set. I can at least say M2K is a good contender even after he's lost most of his Melee skills since picking up Brawl.

after dawn, youre a moron, pretty much every argument you say here has no meaning because its overflown by your bias

Arturito_Burrito · Jul 12, 2009

I want to see what kind of john inui is going to come up with for m2k

Pi · Jul 12, 2009

Kyon_Owitawa said:
Hungrybox just told me there going to finish the set..

Armada would be a fool not to
If this is true much props to armada, regardless the outcome

victra♥ · Jul 12, 2009

why did HB forfeit? Seems kinda lame this late in the game.

Yomi-no-Kuni · Jul 12, 2009

White_Mike said:
I'm so tight right now....woooow

Even if Armada wins this tourney it's deff

USA>Europe.

The International crew couldn't even beat Canada, let alone any single region in the USA.

Europe just has one good player at the tourney and a handful back home, not contest for the USA.

Plus Armada still has to beat Mang0 and whoever comes back from losers.

x After Dawn x said:
LOL not even close, the only two Europeans that could come close are Armada and perhaps Amsah. Stop ****ing meatriding on Europe all day, you guys aren't even that good besides your two prized pros.

you aren't really up to date anymore.... there are some who can compete with those 2, but yes, no one is really better than them...
but take a look at who DID show up... its only a hand full, and almost no one who had real international succes in Europe

VSC.D-Torr · Jul 12, 2009

jc_off_the_heezay said:
Another rumor? -_-

I wouldn't call it a rumor considering they are in the same crew

The March Hare · Jul 12, 2009

anthony000 said:
I really think most people in here saying "M2k was cheated" and "they shoulda finished the set" really wouldn't be saying that if it had been the other way around. The fact is, we're in an American dominated forum, and most people here are biased.

I quite agree with you. I wouldn't care at all if this had happened to armada. :psycho:

SwiftBass · Jul 12, 2009

A-D said:
Put it this way .. what if they played a best of 5 from the beginning and m2k won the set 3-2... But armada was 2-1 somewhere in the set..and after that they found out it was a best of 3... would you give the win to armada?? The answer is NO..So this actually IS the right way

if m2k was up 2-1 they'd let them finish the set no if's an or buts

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