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Scar talks Lean Melee [2012YotF]
- Thread starter Scar
- Start date
honestly ive been playing like 5 people lately
and when im going against a falco/falcon/fox
my tech chasing is pretty on point
hopefully i can bring that tomorrow as well..
someone told me that the nervs get him when he plays, and that he thinks that is something that makes him do not as well
he lost to someone he normally beats like 24/7 and there was no excuse besides his nervs
i dont have nervs lol so hopefully since he told me that i expect to do as best as i can..
should be fun
and when im going against a falco/falcon/fox
my tech chasing is pretty on point
hopefully i can bring that tomorrow as well..
someone told me that the nervs get him when he plays, and that he thinks that is something that makes him do not as well
he lost to someone he normally beats like 24/7 and there was no excuse besides his nervs
i dont have nervs lol so hopefully since he told me that i expect to do as best as i can..
should be fun
DunSkies
Smash Journeyman
ya just over shoot him with a nair or empty hop at him.
as for the counter pics pf rainbow and i like fountain cuz it ****s there grabs all up but im not that good at this game.
you just told me to practice my tech skill so that i could do 100% perfect tech chases like you can
i didnt think you were in the mood to listen to any advice
my best advice would be to notice if something isnt working and not keep trying it
and nerves will probably get to you somewhat, if you find yourself saying "man im not doing anything right" or "normally my tech skill..." then stop yourself because everyone has those problems and just focus on what you need to do to get a kill and go for that
i didnt think you were in the mood to listen to any advice
my best advice would be to notice if something isnt working and not keep trying it
and nerves will probably get to you somewhat, if you find yourself saying "man im not doing anything right" or "normally my tech skill..." then stop yourself because everyone has those problems and just focus on what you need to do to get a kill and go for that
my bad, i cant do perfect tech chases
i said when i dont mess up i can do it, but i usually get it against the people ive played recently
but alright thanks
P.C. Jona might be a trash talking know it all troll
buuut
the real jona knows when he needs advice lol
Meneks
Smash Lord
Whats known to be the most consistent/easiest way to gentlemen?
I'm kinda inconsistent with it since I don't main falcon. I've been switching around with the Jab+jab+Z and the Jab+jab+jab+dash
soap
Smash Hero
u gotta get ***** 2 ****
Meneks
Smash Lord
nvm........................................
Tomacawk
Smash Master
No, I mean you can seriously sit down and take notes and learn what to do in any situation and be super intelligent at melee
but you couldn't make yourself do it in game, your bad habits and first reactions would take priority over what you know you should do because you haven't played in tournies and don't know how to force yourself to not give in to pressure
know what i mean?
also, jona, getting last means nothing. just try to get out of pools.
but you couldn't make yourself do it in game, your bad habits and first reactions would take priority over what you know you should do because you haven't played in tournies and don't know how to force yourself to not give in to pressure
know what i mean?
also, jona, getting last means nothing. just try to get out of pools.
Meneks
Smash Lord
True story.. But if you can adapt quickly thats fine to.
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
I ****ing love the downsmash lol. =**** chase
Scar - Playing you was sooo cool dude 
Btw how did you do that friggin **** *** DI for the jab resets?
Do you SDI up and towards and ASDI up?
Btw how did you do that friggin **** *** DI for the jab resets?
Do you SDI up and towards and ASDI up?
Jona, you're assuming they don't DI the dthrow at all. In a perfectly ideal situation, they would DI slightly in so that you could SHFFL a knee that would connect (if they teched in place / didn't tech) without having to move to their location. But that's almost never the case. I'm pretty sure this is why players like SS wavedash towards the spacies immediately after dthrow; to put themselves in a better position to cover all options. But even someone as fast as he is can't cover all four options with your 'SHFFL knee then quickly chase a tech' strategy.
Afro_Chris
Smash Ace
yo bigd didnt u make ur new account like a week ago how do u have 100 posts already XD
anyways any like tips on falco match up would be nice
anyways any like tips on falco match up would be nice
Meneks
Smash Lord
this is true
and i realized sometimes you just catch them because they stand still
from either being nervous or idk
sometimes i just grab them because their in their shield..
but ya
Scar
#HarveyDent
tec0 i used mango's trick this time but i usually just ASDI up and try to SDI up, turns out any regular SDI will pick you up off the ground so just rotate the control stick and it usually pops him up
i hate being in that weird position though, can't fastfall or anything, i'm thinking about throwing a knee out there but you can prob grab me when i land so idk
i hate being in that weird position though, can't fastfall or anything, i'm thinking about throwing a knee out there but you can prob grab me when i land so idk
Are you talking about just like...being elevated a little bit out of a jab from teh ground cuz you SDI up?
I don't think a knee comes out fast enough, I think sheik can do something before you get a knee out (assuming tec0 is being gay and is playing sheik). I think nair is the only move that is fast enough.
I don't think a knee comes out fast enough, I think sheik can do something before you get a knee out (assuming tec0 is being gay and is playing sheik). I think nair is the only move that is fast enough.
Scar
#HarveyDent
no when you miss a tech vs sheik's tech chase she can jab you and CF is forced to get up in place until like 40%, then you can roll after the jab by holding a direction
SDI eliminates that entire process so sheik's tech chase vs falcon is pretty much grab dthrow you miss tech you SDI you're free
SDI eliminates that entire process so sheik's tech chase vs falcon is pretty much grab dthrow you miss tech you SDI you're free
thats what i meant. instead of being reset you just sort of...jump up from teh ground.
Cosmo!
nerf zelda's dsmash
Lol thats pretty crazy, somebody should make a vid showcasing it
soap
Smash Hero
Afro_Chris
Smash Ace
has to be above 30% to work proper, miss the tech they jab, u SDI up and u can get the first hit of the nair if ur really fast after u SDI the jab or u can just dj and run away or air dodge w.e u please, gets easier higher the %,
edit: my bad didnt read that ppl already said this
Wow nice I was so confused when you did this
.Thanks
double jump out
you might be able to waveland, but i doubt it
afro chris unless you have some more specific issues with falco im gonna say pretty much nair all over until you can get a nair grab at low % or knock him down for a tech chase after 30 or so
focus on just avoiding lasers a lot, that frustrates falcos, even if youre not punishing them the falco player will sort of feel like they arent working and start getting desperate
you might be able to waveland, but i doubt it
afro chris unless you have some more specific issues with falco im gonna say pretty much nair all over until you can get a nair grab at low % or knock him down for a tech chase after 30 or so
focus on just avoiding lasers a lot, that frustrates falcos, even if youre not punishing them the falco player will sort of feel like they arent working and start getting desperate
TresChikon
Smash Lord
Does SDIing up get you out of every character's jab reset, cause I think i heard somewhere that Sheik's jab was too weak to give enough opportunity to DI out of a reset.
iamthemicrowave
Smash Master
this SDI information is amazing, i got ***** by so many sheiks gay tech chase regrabs this weekend, im gonna try and implement it
TresChikon
Smash Lord
Ah found it, so I guess SDI would work where ASDI alone may not. Cool thanks for the tip Scar
Divinokage
Smash Legend
Well.. all Sheik has to do is to adapt and then Falcon's ****ed yet again lolll.
JPOBS
Smash Hero
thats exactly the point i was making in the matchup thread which you quoted and disagreed with