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TDB: SEASON 2! LEON (RE4) vs LARA CROFT
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payasofobia
Smash Champion
Sorry Nova, you are confusing gracefullness with suckage. Marth is NOT gracefull. He is a VERY bad swordman.
Anyway, I think this MU goes to Marth simply because he has a sword. Charizard got nothing except bites and small claws.
Anyway, I think this MU goes to Marth simply because he has a sword. Charizard got nothing except bites and small claws.
Beren Zaiga
Smash Ace
The Science Channel aired it on their channel not too long ago Ray.
Youtube "Dragons: A Fantasy made real".
You'll find all the parts to the program on there. That is how I tried to argue that Charizard could fly, and breath fire. Charizard can breath fire, but without the needed false palette in the mouth (similar to a Crocodile's pallete in that it keeps a certain material from getting in, which in the Croc's case is water when it opens it mouth under the surface) it is a lost cause.
Marth's sword, Falchion is a longsword, smaller than Ganondorf's, but right for his size. It is already known he can use it to great effect. He out-ranges Charizard in close combat and thus is more devastating. He also has minimal armor in the form of his chestplate and pauldrons (on his shoulders).
Marth can cut Charizard with his sword. Don't make me bring out Payas' Tone argument out on you.
Muscle Tone > Muscle Bulk.
I am also an example of this. With my brother on my back, starting on my stomach, I can use my arms to pick myself up to the point where I can get onto my knees, and with a bit more effort, onto my feet while haunched down and come close to standing up straight while he is still on my back before he falls off.
I barely exercise at all, unless you include walking home from school. He weighs over 200 lbs, he is taller than and physically stronger than me.
Yet I am his older brother.
RL examples FTW...
Youtube "Dragons: A Fantasy made real".
You'll find all the parts to the program on there. That is how I tried to argue that Charizard could fly, and breath fire. Charizard can breath fire, but without the needed false palette in the mouth (similar to a Crocodile's pallete in that it keeps a certain material from getting in, which in the Croc's case is water when it opens it mouth under the surface) it is a lost cause.
Marth's sword, Falchion is a longsword, smaller than Ganondorf's, but right for his size. It is already known he can use it to great effect. He out-ranges Charizard in close combat and thus is more devastating. He also has minimal armor in the form of his chestplate and pauldrons (on his shoulders).
Marth can cut Charizard with his sword. Don't make me bring out Payas' Tone argument out on you.
Muscle Tone > Muscle Bulk.
I am also an example of this. With my brother on my back, starting on my stomach, I can use my arms to pick myself up to the point where I can get onto my knees, and with a bit more effort, onto my feet while haunched down and come close to standing up straight while he is still on my back before he falls off.
I barely exercise at all, unless you include walking home from school. He weighs over 200 lbs, he is taller than and physically stronger than me.
Yet I am his older brother.
RL examples FTW...
nightSN
Smash Ace
wow charzard is small. LOL always that he would be huge.
Sieguest
Smash Master
You be hating >___>
Dude Charizard is a shrimp compared to me then! (height wise that is...)
@Sam
Iknorite?
I say we fight for fire! :O
Sieguest
Smash Master
I'm too busy playing FE6 marthage
WHAAAT!!!
....... *sighs* oh well...
then time to wait for stuff to happen! :D
payasofobia
Smash Champion
It's true.You be hating >___>
Dude Charizard is a shrimp compared to me then! (height wise that is...)
@Sam
Iknorite?
I say we fight for fire! :O
All of his stats except strenght and luck are horrible.
Skill is the worst. He misses 4/5 of his attacks. Its that awfull.
Sieguest
Smash Master
No he doesn't...
he can nail an opponent every single time unless the opponent is camping in the mountains or on a fort/castle/gate. and even when the terrain advantage is for the opponent Marth is hitting at least 84% of the time...
I don't know what Shadow Dragon you're playing, but it must not be the one the rest of the world plays :O
payasofobia
Smash Champion
I am playing the same Shadow Dragon you are playing, and trust me, Marth is only good in the easier levels.
No he doesn't...
he can nail an opponent every single time unless the opponent is camping in the mountains or on a fort/castle/gate. and even when the terrain advantage is for the opponent Marth is hitting at least 84% of the time...
I don't know what Shadow Dragon you're playing, but it must not be the one the rest of the world plays :O
http://www.serenesforest.net/fe11/average/marth.html
From Normal and above he becomes a load.
A load that can single handheldly end your perfect run on a long level.
Sieguest
Smash Master
dude Marth is the reason I was even able to beat the game on Merciless! >___>
My Marth is ****.....
*looks at stats*
dang, I must've gotten lucky on the RNG....
My marth's Str is meh,
but his skill
speed and luck is maxed out :O
:O
payasofobia
Smash Champion
dude Marth is the reason I was even able to beat the game on Merciless! >___>
My Marth is ****.....
*looks at stats*
dang, I must've gotten lucky on the RNG....
My marth's Str is meh,
but his skill
speed and luck is maxed out :O
:O
Holy ****, that is some serious RNG blessing.
You got very lucky.
None of my 5 merciless Marths turned strong enough to be usefull for more than 10 chapters....
adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
As promised, time to comment on the false palate...
And... no, really no. It's not drooping anywhere near enough to simply be open, and he's got it open WHILE he's breathing fire.
Charizard has no false palate, so like bowser every time he breaths fire, it will be suicide.
I'm sold on Marth winning this, without a legit ranged weapon his sword has the range to beat out Charizard, sword>claws.
And... no, really no. It's not drooping anywhere near enough to simply be open, and he's got it open WHILE he's breathing fire.
Charizard has no false palate, so like bowser every time he breaths fire, it will be suicide.
I'm sold on Marth winning this, without a legit ranged weapon his sword has the range to beat out Charizard, sword>claws.
payasofobia
Smash Champion
Marth because Sword>claws and teeth.
Charizard is a really ****ty Dragon.
Charizard is a really ****ty Dragon.
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This feels like an even easier matchup of the Bowser vs Ganon
JOE!
Smash Hero
You know, I was thinkign about this issue today at work of all places...As promised, time to comment on the false palate...
And... no, really no. It's not drooping anywhere near enough to simply be open, and he's got it open WHILE he's breathing fire.
Charizard has no false palate, so like bowser every time he breaths fire, it will be suicide.
I'm sold on Marth winning this, without a legit ranged weapon his sword has the range to beat out Charizard, sword>claws.
all pics of Bowser/Charizard have the throat hole in the....throat to make a cartoonish character look a bit more real...
Couldnt it be assumed they have such a thing, seeing as if they had fire, they should have a means of stopping the backdraft?
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Just throwing it out there, but I think that Charizard's size is a game mechanic. In the anime, and I'd assume in real life's case, you see bigger ones and smaller ones. Going by 5'07" for every Charizard(even in Brawl, he's almost as tall as 6' characters) seems kinda eh, unless someone decides(BY THE LAW OF THE INTERNET) that 5'07" is the biggest they can get.
Edit: Not that that makes much difference. With fire, Charizard. Without, Marth.
@Joe - Yes.
Edit: Not that that makes much difference. With fire, Charizard. Without, Marth.
@Joe - Yes.
payasofobia
Smash Champion
Because he doesn't have it:
He has no false palatte.
And false palattes are not in your throat.
He has no false palatte.
And false palattes are not in your throat.
justaway12
Smash Master
Umm, Adum, I can't see your picture 
EDIT: Forget it, it's all good now
EDIT: Forget it, it's all good now
Let me get this straight.
Charizard is only a little taller than Marth...
Marth has a sword....
Charizard can't breathe fire.....
We have a winnar.
Can Charizard have a flame on his tail? Or is this impossable due to skin porblems?
Charizard is only a little taller than Marth...
Marth has a sword....
Charizard can't breathe fire.....
We have a winnar.
Can Charizard have a flame on his tail? Or is this impossable due to skin porblems?
JOE!
Smash Hero
Paya, what I'm talking about (coming from an animation major) is that it would be boring froma character design stand-point to have bowser or charizard have a flap covering their throats when they open their mouths...it looks better to have the details inside...
This is the same reason we dont see Zelda with a sheathe or quiver: It'd look a bit weird.
Now, even though there is no evidence of her ever having a sheathe or quiver, we gave her both because it made sense....
But we wont give two fighters something that'd make evolutionary sense for what they can do?
This is the same reason we dont see Zelda with a sheathe or quiver: It'd look a bit weird.
Now, even though there is no evidence of her ever having a sheathe or quiver, we gave her both because it made sense....
But we wont give two fighters something that'd make evolutionary sense for what they can do?
REL38
Smash Lord
But if Charizard actually had usage of the fire, then he could potentially stand a much better chance cuz he'd have better usage and more bursts of fire.
JOE has a point with the animation details being non-present.
Ray_Kalm
Smash Master
Joe's point is invalid though. Having a certain item that exists (Sheathe and Quiver) is alot more logical than not being able to breathe fire.
Sieguest
Smash Master
That's just like saying that a Texas Horned Toad can't spit blood.... because it doesn't sound logical...>___>
JOE!
Smash Hero
If it came to being prepared for RL then do I really need to say anyone? I get what your statement is getting at but I'm saying it won't affect the outcome of this MU.
InfiniteBlaze
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zard would **** marth
How? He's no bigger than Marth....
JOE!
Smash Hero
well, it doesn't really matter about the match...
it is just people are making a claim about these two characters, based on things that I know would be realistically inaccurate (besides them being a Charizard and boozersaurus), like how Zelda has a sword and no sheathe.
I'm trying to say the same lee-way should be given for these two guys, seeing as it'd allow them to do something possible for them to do, that they are shown doing, but have a simple thing holding them back due to the way they are drawn...
Jochnick
Smash Rookie
Charizard vs Marth?
Hmmm hard one, Marth has speed but lacks power, Charizard has power but lacks speed. Marth can use hit and dodge tactics, but one hit from Charizard and his done for. It's even but I gotta go with charizard. He can fly AND breath fire, Marth would hit him over and over but Charizards stamina would keep him fighting until Marth would tire and Charizard would finish him.
Hmmm hard one, Marth has speed but lacks power, Charizard has power but lacks speed. Marth can use hit and dodge tactics, but one hit from Charizard and his done for. It's even but I gotta go with charizard. He can fly AND breath fire, Marth would hit him over and over but Charizards stamina would keep him fighting until Marth would tire and Charizard would finish him.