eww im surprised yu hopped on the wagon mentos
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Phoenix Wright Mafia [GAME OVER!]
- Thread starter DtJ Jungle
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Like I only need three more to get lynched here let me help out.
Vote KevinM
Why not lets quicklynch without discussing anything its our best course of action.
Vote KevinM
Why not lets quicklynch without discussing anything its our best course of action.
What's with the self vote Kev? Is that really a reasonable reaction?
Three votes with like no discussion or reasonings.
Is that reasonable as well?
Like no.
You mad?
You guys like put me at L-1/2 with no discussion, no reasonings, no postings not even a day into D2.
Let me help you guys along, if the rest of the town doesn't feel like playing to win, why should I?
Is that reasonable as well?
Like no.
You mad?
You guys like put me at L-1/2 with no discussion, no reasonings, no postings not even a day into D2.
Let me help you guys along, if the rest of the town doesn't feel like playing to win, why should I?
L-3 first of all, so no you weren't at any even reasonable risk of quickhammering. You've been one to bandwagon quite often, not necessarily with an intent to lynch at the time, yet here we do it to you and you self-vote and make it seem like it's a terrible thing we did. Not to mention even wagons that you haven't joined you haven't acted like it's a terribly bad thing like you did here. Is it only ok to wagon someone who isn't you?
lol @ the appeal to emotion
mentos, wheres the 'more to come in a lil bit'?
mentos, wheres the 'more to come in a lil bit'?
To answer Omni/Macman's questions from yesterDay. I'm fairly certain that Riddle is scum but I don't think I can convince you. Besides my scumtells are traditionally wrong so I always keep second-guessing myself hence me being so inconsistent with my accusations and talking about re-reading. I keep my eye on him still - I just try not to be tunneled too much against him.
As for nameclaims, I'm not sure how well it works. It'd be obviously a lot easier if there was a cop to verify/falsify dubious claims. Mac, what do you think are the pro's of a nameclaim toDay?
As for nameclaims, I'm not sure how well it works. It'd be obviously a lot easier if there was a cop to verify/falsify dubious claims. Mac, what do you think are the pro's of a nameclaim toDay?
Mac, I got caught up playing dragon age last night then fell asleep, I'll get somethin up after work
lol @ all three of you guys like not giving reasons for voting yet no one calls you out on it. i've lost interest in this game, town doesn't do ****. No one is like trying.
FOS Gheb
A cop couldn't verify name claims.
i gave all my reasoning yesterday. Nothings changed.
also what are you doing pulling this 'imma vote for myself because noone is taking this game seriously so its pointless for me to and cuz ive lost interest in this game' and then you fos gheb like you are actually attempting to do somethig about this game. thats not consistent with what you are trying to show by voting yourself. this is clearly a pointless AtE and the scummy kind at that.
anyways, if you are giving up on the game, yu should replace, or we should lynch you. Theres no point in keeping you here.
still suspicious of riddle?
anyways, if you are giving up on the game, yu should replace, or we should lynch you. Theres no point in keeping you here.
still suspicious of riddle?
I still play the game like 100 percent regardless of if I have no interest. It's not fair to replace out resign to being lynched etc, because I made a commitment to play the game. Your case yesterday was like shoddy, and nothings changed and you don't feel like looking anywhere else. Got it.
. ..
also if you are still giving 100%, why are you voting yourself? You agree that if you are town, that is a completely antitown action correct?
As is what the three Ms like have done if they are in fact town. Correct?
And not as much, I would be surprised if scum isn't on my bandwagon at this point like.
And not as much, I would be surprised if scum isn't on my bandwagon at this point like.
so yes/no on riddle?
I've given my reasons for voting you. Marshy gave a reason for voting you. Mentos is the only person who have yet to give a concrete reason for voting you but atleast he said that he had reasons, and that he partially agreed with sinz's case.[which i personally think is bull**** but thats me] So you are completely overexxagerating when you say that none of the three M's have given a reason for voting you. So no, not correct, it was not anti town.
Also, are you suggesting that you voted yourself in order to fish for scum hopping on a bandwagon?
I've given my reasons for voting you. Marshy gave a reason for voting you. Mentos is the only person who have yet to give a concrete reason for voting you but atleast he said that he had reasons, and that he partially agreed with sinz's case.[which i personally think is bull**** but thats me] So you are completely overexxagerating when you say that none of the three M's have given a reason for voting you. So no, not correct, it was not anti town.
Also, are you suggesting that you voted yourself in order to fish for scum hopping on a bandwagon?
I'm voting for myself because unless you guys can try and scum hunt we're not going to get anywhere like ever. Three votes on me and then no discussion.
Good like game.
Good like game.
Three quick votes without any intent to lynch, like maybe just you but Marshy and Macman want the lynch.
I never said it wasn't ok to wagon me but it's two terrible cases and a non-existent one.
You are voting yourself cuz we're not trying to scumhunt? I'm not really following here. Also, dunno why you are avoiding the question about riddle.
You want some scumhunting Kevin? About to bring a very large post to the table with my thoughts, it may take a little while to get everything typed up, but it'll be up by the end of the hour unless something distracts me majorly.
lol why even post tht XD
so unnecessary esp if yur post is coming within the hr
just funny is all
so unnecessary esp if yur post is coming within the hr
just funny is all
*MUNCH MUNCH MUNCH*
*She hands you a small slip of paper*
VOTE COUNT
KevinM [4] : Macman, Marshy, Mentosman, KevinM
Not Voting: Gheb, Swords, Pierre, Truth, Riddle, Rockin, Cacti
deadline is the last minute of 11/29
takes 6/11 to lynch
Ok, now first and foremost today, I would like to say right here that I'm sorry for the lack of content D1. I can't say it was entirely accidental, but I'll be doing my best to bring things to the table today. Now, on to some of my more particular thoughts on Kevin that I said I would post yesterday.
As much as I hate to do this as the game goes later, I think it's time to do a PBPA on Kevin. Before reading this also, I would like to point out a couple things I had running through my mind in general as I gathered these posts. First of all, a lot of the vibe I'm getting reading Kevin's posts reminds me of the Vengeful Maf game we did here that Mac ran. Second of all, as you will notice, a lot of his posts are short with little content, something that he will later call Marshy and Mac out about, placing a vote on Marshy with this being his reasoning.
Secondly, Kevin has the second most posts in the game. As we go through this, keep that in mind as you see a good portion of those posts being nigh worthless.
That's all I've got for now, and it took way longer than I planned. Hopefully this actually garners a response instead of more "Well, it's reaching so I'm ignoring it" BS.
As much as I hate to do this as the game goes later, I think it's time to do a PBPA on Kevin. Before reading this also, I would like to point out a couple things I had running through my mind in general as I gathered these posts. First of all, a lot of the vibe I'm getting reading Kevin's posts reminds me of the Vengeful Maf game we did here that Mac ran. Second of all, as you will notice, a lot of his posts are short with little content, something that he will later call Marshy and Mac out about, placing a vote on Marshy with this being his reasoning.
Secondly, Kevin has the second most posts in the game. As we go through this, keep that in mind as you see a good portion of those posts being nigh worthless.
Kevin's opening post to the game. First of all, the vote on Cacti when we were predominately out of the RVS at this point. More interesting is the fact that Jungle's open D1 post was made the SAME DAY as this post, yet Kevin already seems to be on the defensive.
Following Kevin's vote on Cacti, Riddle brings up an argument against him. Macman and Swords follow agreeing with the case. As Macman brings up in the post following, he doesn't unvote despite seemingly having a problem with the wagon on Cacti getting him to L/2. Also, this isn't really a big risk situation, no way there would be an accidental quicklynch as it would have taken four more votes, so I don't see where his problem with it really lies.
Kevin responds to Mac's second point about having not seen him have a problem with BW's before. He ignores the comment about unvoting if he has a problem with it. Also, the reasoning he gives for his comment is relatively weak, as most BW's have little to no discussion, hence how they become wagons.
Completely avoids Marshy's question here. He had been asked why he was voting with people he was seemingly suspicious of, and not only doesn't respond to that question, but says he has reasons to vote Cacti he has as-of-yet not posted.
These two quotes give no reasoning, and yet he switches his vote. He never explained his suspicions of Cacti, and with it being a seemingly serious vote, I find this strange.
One of Kevin's best posts as a whole. After Chaco calls him out for not backing up his vote, he steps back with this. Admittedly, Chaco had played terribly at this point, and a relatively solid argument.
A one liner like he later calls Mac and Marshy out for. Just a brief comment.
Post about game theory. I know I had several posts along those lines, but since I'm quoting all his posts I might as well point it out. And yes, I know that is saying I myself was scummy as well. Also I'm not sure why he says we shouldn't be worried about a quicklynch, but seemed upset that Cacti was at L/2. Seems like the two don't mix very well.
Responding to one of Chaco's final posts, far and away his worst one, but once again, a nice one-liner.
Marshy asks him specifically about his vote on Cacti, saying his response to his question wasn't very good, Kevin responds once again without actually answering the question. Second part is throw-away fluff answering Marshy's questioning of his Mac-tunneling comment.
Fluff post in response to Chaco being replaced.
Kevin responds to Mac's question about name-claims. No good or bad here really, but seems very adamant against a nameclaim. Possibly there's a reason he wouldn't want it, for example not having a safeclaim.
Three straight posts that are pretty much fluff. Not entirely sure what the first is a response to, the second is responding about his reason to vote Cacti without giving any legitimate reasons. The third responding to Truth saying Marshy's question to him was pointless since Chaco had admitted he wasn't playing hard or well. Not a terrible comment there, but still another one liner.
Yet another unvote/vote without posting reasoning. The semblance to the Marshy/Macman style he calls out later is blatantly obvious here.
Fluff in response to Jungle being away for a day.
Not sure what this question is supposed to mean. He had actively been complaining about the wagon on Cacti, and then asks this question like it's a bad thing it fell apart. Bit of a contradiction.
Fluff, still no reason given for his vote.
Fluff/oneliner again.
Another fluffy post. Pretty much says nothing.
Not sure where you're getting the idea your posts have been spot on. In fact, no reason to believe that. Also, the only time he has "spelled out" his logic when called out for not posting it was on Chaco. Every other vote he's had he never explained with a real case, including the one on Cacti which he was asked about several times.
Sinz did a post similar to this one on Kevin in his 367. Kevin doesn't respond to any of it, instead gives this one-line response writing it off as if it meant nothing.
I like Kevin's comments on not needing a list of everyone in the game, the biggest problem I see with this post is that one of the two people he lists as his thoughts on scum he has still yet to give any reasoning for.I think like you and Rockin are scummy as ****.
I don't need to do a giant color coded write-up to make sure you guys understand that.
But here let me like do one just for you
The_Truth
Rockin
These two first rip on Marshy and Macman's play, which as I have pointed out Kev has several occasions of doing himself, then responding to Sinz post without any counter-argument, just saying he was reaching.
Responding to Truth asking him for his real comments on Marshy and Sinz suspicions, says Marshy has no idea what he's talking about, and Sinz is reaching yet again. No actual defense to the suspicions brought against him, just saying "don't listen to these people, they don't know what they're talking about."
Admittedly, Sinz case did have a lot with a Cacti/Kev scum-team, and we finally get a bit of a response, however some of his points were valid, and I have made a couple of the same ones here.
Kevin pretty much says "I don't need to make a case because you can do it yourself, followed by a subtle defense of me. While I don't see it being the likeliest scenario, he could be trying to draw a connection to me with that comment so if/when he was lynched and flipped scum people would point to it.
Yes, your case against Rockin had been made at this point based on Chaco's not caring play, but you have barely given any reasoning for your earlier vote of Truth, and pretty much nothing that comes from prior to your vote on him.
Fluff/respond to later post.
Wait, what? Even if this is a joke, he called out Marshy earlier for not knowing what he's talking about till later game, and at the time Marshy had his vote on me, when his earlier post implied that he didn't think I deserved votes.
Three straight fluff posts, the last two responding to Marshy asking him for his current scumpicks. While he has been talking about Chaco/Rockin a long time and later suspecting Truth, he turns here and says he didn't think about it yet. So, you have your vote down, you have two main suspects implied in several of your recent posts, but you can't respond to Marshy's simple question with the suspicions you've already posted, choosing instead a couple one-liners and saying you hadn't thought about who was scum yet(very strange comment for a townie to make).
Now back to Rockin/Truth. No new ideas, says Truth is a good candidate still seemingly based on one post.
Just popping in to request the extension.
Now this is an interesting post. You call Mac out for being too tunnelvisioned earlier in the game, then turn around and say this. A key point to note is that at this point Kevin is part of Mac's proposed lynch pool.
WHAT? The whole day since pretty early on the only two who you have mentioned suspicions of are Truth and Chaco/Rockin. Suddenly after Truth's claim you seem to drop Chackin and now have two new suspects, no reasoning given to be suspicious of either of your new suspects, in fact seeming to not believe they're scum but that they will give us the most info. You also say you suspect Mac and it would need a re-read, but you're afraid of reaching so you don't seem inclined to look into it.
These two posts bother me most, and are where I really started to look into Kevin. He calls Mac and Marshy out for several things that he himself has done. Only make posts about your suspicions when called out? Check. Lots of one/two liners? Check. It seems like he's trying to make Marshman(sorry, I'm getting lazy as this gets so long>_>) look bad over things that can be said about him as well.
This is a true statement, but only if the lynch is entirely on gut and you don't find a reason why your gut is saying X is scum. When you responded to Sinz like this, I think he had made some reasonable points about you(disregarding the Kevin/Cacti scumteam comments), so I think this falls into the category of substantiated gut.
These posts are in response to Mac building a case on him. The first doesn't respond, simply mocks the fact that Mac wasn't committing to his case, the second, once again, instead of responding to the points against them he makes up a reason the argument is invalid and writes it off.
The first line I've already said why I don't like in my comments about him calling MarshMan out to begin with. The second is a legit response, and while it looks townie to do, I'm not sure I can put a whole lot of stock in him saying it, because he's a good enough player I'm confident he knows how scummy an agreement like that would look.
Another one-liner like he complains about from MarshMan. I didn't like any of the responses like this to Mac's comment. It was quite clear to me reading that he was implying if Sinz was Truth's partner it should be claimed, because he was about to be lynched.
Kevin actually makes a solid argument here that can't have the name Marshy replaced with Kevin and still add up. I don't entirely agree with it, although I see where it comes from, but he calls Marshy out on one/two liners and then when Marshy points out he has explained his thoughts Kevin flips it around and says he's suspicious of him for that.
Pierre's post has some major WIFOM involved(in the bad way), saying that it's not scummy to post lists of who you think is town/maf because if you were maf it wouldn't paint targets like Kevin implied. Kevin responds to it here. Not a bad post.
Riddle's hammer was a little premature, however I don't feel much would have gotten accomplished in the extra day, and I think it's a bit reaching to hold it against him that he dropped the hammer a day before the deadline on a day that had been extended and seen a LOT of conversation. Also, you said that we would get a lot of info from a Sinz/Swords, so with it being a foregone lynch pretty much at that point, why is it very damaging and scummy? One of Sinz primary suspects was you, the other Cacti, and he had explained both pretty fully long before that hammer.
Once again speaks harshly about the nameclaim idea. To the next line, once again, what happened to your Chackin thoughts? They disappeared late D1, and you have not even brought him up again. The final part is terribly anti-town, you won't justify a response to them any more? Mac built a case on you and you shot it down without ever arguing the points really. So, obviously, this phrase is redundant because you don't consider his case any way.
Another decidedly anti-town move today, self-voting. If you're a townie why not question the wagon, get thoughts, and argue your case instead of being sarcastic, voting yourself, and dismissing the possibility that there are solid suspicions behind you?
Or, maybe you could consider that there are reasons to consider you scum, and maybe, just maybe, there was a wagon on you because of those reasons. I was playing to win voting you. Just because you don't like being suspected doesn't mean we aren't playing to win.
I've rectified my "not trying" now how bout you do the same? As I've seen doing this, the only times you have explained your votes is when strongly called out(sometimes like pulling teeth to get you to do so), you've posted numerous one/two liners calling out other people for doing the same, calling Marshy scummy for both not giving thoughts and giving too much, and very few people have called YOU out for not commenting with your votes. I like how when the shoe's placed on the other foot you flip out, but when you do it no problem.
Obviously you aren't playing 100% despite losing interest, because you have yet to refute any argument against you in any way other than taking a piece, saying it's reaching or wrong, and ignoring the rest. Today, we put some pressure on you and you fall apart and self vote.
Avoided Mac's question on Riddle for the second time with this post. Also says the wagon we formed is anti-town despite, once again, him having done the same kind of voting throughout the game so far.
As I've said, maybe we, ya know, WERE scumhunting when we placed our votes on you, and the main reason there has been little discussion since is because it has had to center around your ridiculous self-vote and blowing up about it.
I never said there was no intent to lynch, but definitely no intent to lynch that quick. A lot of of the cases you mention as being terrible, you have not responded to more than a small part of. Also, the parts that you have ignored were the most valid points of the arguments. Both Sinz and Mac raised a couple points I came across as well that I feel are valid, yet you never responded to them writing off their whole argument over a part that you felt was bad.
That's all I've got for now, and it took way longer than I planned. Hopefully this actually garners a response instead of more "Well, it's reaching so I'm ignoring it" BS.
nice post. i wish you'd use post numbers though sheesh
my biggest problem with kevin as scum is that i expect him to prey on the weaker players
my biggest problem with kevin as scum is that i expect him to prey on the weaker players
riddle is lynchable if you think he's scum get on that. don't like this post at all
Marshy, the reason I used quotes is because I always find it absurd when people use the numbers, because you either have to click through all the links or assume the person is representing the posts correctly. Having the quotes right there allows cross-referencing on the spot so what is said about the post is confirmable without having to click through so much.
SwordsRbroken
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@mentos Nice post, kevin is looking scummy now.
Defend yourself.
Would like to hear more from Riddle and what he thinks of Kevin.
D2 had been going on for a few days (out of game) already. There had been a good amount of posts since then, but you've done nothing but just throw out one-liners (like Mentos said) and you FoSed Gheb for something that is pointless. Yeah, a cop can't verify name claims, but did that really deserve an FoS?
Defend yourself.
Would like to hear more from Riddle and what he thinks of Kevin.
Pierre the Scarecrow
Grasping at Straws
Hi.
It would be cool to hear from The_Truth, the cleared mason partner, on how he feels about the KevinM case.
I also don't mean to rely too much on flavor, but I wouldn't mind if KevinM name claimed. I think like it might explain like some things that have been bothering me about him.
I thought I made a very good point against KevinM on Day 1 and I asked him a question with some strong implications, and he simply brushed it off without giving a satisfactory answer.
KevinM, is your main suspect still Riddle? Would you like to build a case on him? I actually think your answer to this is going to be "No do it yourself" based on what I saw earlier but I do think it would be a good idea, if you are town, for you to lay out your case again, in addition to and making sure you don't solely respond to Mentosman and make the day only about your lynch.
I would like to hear from Cacti and Rockin.
I also need to go back and read through Day 1 knowing that XACE-K/Omni was town aligned.
As an aside, although Day 1 was slowly relegating itself to him, I really do not like how Sinz self-hammered. Is this common practice here? If so, I might have to go on a crusade.
It would be cool to hear from The_Truth, the cleared mason partner, on how he feels about the KevinM case.
I also don't mean to rely too much on flavor, but I wouldn't mind if KevinM name claimed. I think like it might explain like some things that have been bothering me about him.
I thought I made a very good point against KevinM on Day 1 and I asked him a question with some strong implications, and he simply brushed it off without giving a satisfactory answer.
KevinM, is your main suspect still Riddle? Would you like to build a case on him? I actually think your answer to this is going to be "No do it yourself" based on what I saw earlier but I do think it would be a good idea, if you are town, for you to lay out your case again, in addition to and making sure you don't solely respond to Mentosman and make the day only about your lynch.
I would like to hear from Cacti and Rockin.
I also need to go back and read through Day 1 knowing that XACE-K/Omni was town aligned.
As an aside, although Day 1 was slowly relegating itself to him, I really do not like how Sinz self-hammered. Is this common practice here? If so, I might have to go on a crusade.
Pierre the Scarecrow
Grasping at Straws
This may simply be semantic, but this statement seems very out of place. Did Kevin look scummy to you before, SwordsRbroken?
Pierre: Technically he was hammered by Riddle, his vote afterwards was superfluous. Other than that, not common practice at all, the only one I've seen do it(who didn't have a role that was unlynchable) is Hando when he did it in like 2 or 3 straight games.
SwordsRbroken
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Earlier in the game, he did have a few scummy things about him, but there were better suspects at that time. But now, my sights are on Kevin.
word mentos.
still waiting for kevin to respond about riddle. He does seem to pick and choose what he wants to respond to.
still waiting for kevin to respond about riddle. He does seem to pick and choose what he wants to respond to.
Gonna read the rest of this thread, but you're obviously skimming here because I did right here like.
Mac: "Still suspcios of riddle?"
KevinM: "
And not as much, I would be surprised if scum isn't on my bandwagon at this point like. " like
The and not as much is like the answer to your riddle question.
Then like point them out, you haven't done anything.
@Mentos: I'm not looking to go into a point by point analysis here nor am I going to draw this out, the town wins on succinctness. Like, your main points seem to be that I ignore questions but as I looked through your case there were never blaring cases of me ignoring questions directed towards me. Also when you say things such as "He needed to reread the thread instead of answering Marshy's question right away" it actually throws up a red flag for me Yes I would like a little more time in answering a question about who I think is scummy because that's not something I just want to absentmindedly throw out, by being careful I make sure that the suspects I have are indeed still suspects, and that my reread didn't throw anything off.
Like I appreciate your post by post because it got other people to post, like Pierre who instantly went into me claiming which is rather weird and Swords once again just sheeping it up but the thing is, you're so convinced I'm scum that you're going to get a scum read out of any post I make.
I have some questions for everyone in the game.
If I am lynched and when I flip town, where would you look next?
HOWEVER, like there is one condition to this.
I want swords to answer this question first, he will not be allowed to sheep.
I'm actually about to write a longer post concerning Riddle and see what the rest of town thinks about it...kinda like mentos's PbPA on Kevin. I just want to make sure everything I post makes sense and all.
I'll also look at the Kevin wagon sometime later. Some things said about him in that context look scummy to me. Like this:
FoS Pierre, if Kevin unvotes he's only L-3. With the exception of mentos there was nobody arguing his posts in detail either. Asking for a claim at this point is way too early and looks extremely like your fishing. Nobody should claim that early unless there's like a cop claim. Still plenty of other things to discuss.
Ignoring the fact that I wouldn't lynch you toDay I'd still look at Riddle or the people on your wagon. Depends a lot on how things envolve toDay though and also what I'll get from rereading Omni's posts knowing he was town.
Mentos, yesterDay you said that Cacti vs Swords wasn't TvT. Changed your mind about that? Your PbPA on Kevin was nice and all but it doesn't help me follow your thought process on other players, especially since you've been quiet yesterDay. Good to see you step it up though.
Truth, what are your thought on the things that happened? You're "cleared" so I'd like to hear a lot more from you considering that you're likely credible. Think that Kevin is scum or somebody on his wagon? Anything/anybody standing out to you? Is Cacti vs Swords from yesterDay TvT to you or not?
Rockin/Cacti are you done lurking?
Gheb, why are you not at all suspicious of Kevin? Do you not agree with any of the points that mentos brought up?I'll also look at the Kevin wagon sometime later. Some things said about him in that context look scummy to me. Like this:
FoS Pierre, if Kevin unvotes he's only L-3. With the exception of mentos there was nobody arguing his posts in detail either. Asking for a claim at this point is way too early and looks extremely like your fishing. Nobody should claim that early unless there's like a cop claim. Still plenty of other things to discuss.
Ignoring the fact that I wouldn't lynch you toDay I'd still look at Riddle or the people on your wagon. Depends a lot on how things envolve toDay though and also what I'll get from rereading Omni's posts knowing he was town.
If anything, he should get policy lynched for self voting. Theres honestly no reason for him to do such a thing. And is just a dumb appeal to emotion gambit that doesn't help town at all. And not only that gives contradicting images as to what his take on this entire game is.
So you want to 'look' at me, marshy, and mentos for being on Kevin's wagon? Is there any particular reason why? Something that seems scummmy about us in particular? You said noone was arguing his posts in detail? Did you forget that sinz and I have done that the day before, it's not our fault town ignored those posts. I guess I just want to know why you think Kevin is town so badly, but was so easily suspicious of someone like sinz who literally did nothing wrong except for bringing up a case against KevinM that people didn't agree with.
Yes, pierre was fishing for a nameclaim. But it's not like he was trying to hide that. Why is it a bigdeal to ask for a nameclaim? It's not a roleclaim. Do you think mafia would go out on a limb and ask someone to nameclaim?
Also interested in hearing what swords has to say. Playing with him is incredibly frustrating.
Also would like to hear from truth.
Riddle
Smash Lord
Kevin at this point does not seem to be playing his hardest as evidenced by his self-vote and lack of defense. I agree that Kevin is scummy as well, and he, along with Gheb and Swords are my main suspects right now. Let me explain.
Gheb - I apparently went from kinda scummy to "lol obvscum" just for hammering (something that scum tends to avoid). But I'm going to wait to his pbpa for more about him.
Swords - He parrots everyone and never seems to really have opinions of his own.
Gheb - I apparently went from kinda scummy to "lol obvscum" just for hammering (something that scum tends to avoid). But I'm going to wait to his pbpa for more about him.
Swords - He parrots everyone and never seems to really have opinions of his own.
SwordsRbroken
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responses in red.
Hitman JT
The Infinite One
Hmm...yesterDay, Kevin just seemed to come in and post randomly, half the time adding little to nothing to the ongoing discussions. His one-liners and jokes made it seem like he didn't really give a da mn, and I tried calling him out on this before but didn't really have much to back it up with. I tried asking him for his thoughts but he just gave me some BS answers like he thought me and Rockin were scummy but NEVER explained why he found me suspicious...also told me to vote for him and make a case against him. At this point I started to suspect him, but I didn't vote for him because of others who were higher on my list.
And toDay, MnMnM (lol) put 3 votes on him to pressure him a little bit. Then what happens next? Dude votes for himself and puts himself at L-2. Like wtf? I've seen plenty of people crack under pressure but voting for himself was just silly. And scummy. Then I read through mentos' HUGE MUHFUKKIN WALL O TEXT, and I do see Kevin contradicting himself on several occasions. He's clearly playing anti-town and not taking this seriously.
Also @ Kevin: Who are your main suspicions now? Are me and Rockin still on your list?
@ Gheb: No I don't think Cacti v. Swords is TvT, I've said before why I thought Swords was suspicious.
@ mentos: Nice pbpa, way to step it up. Is there anyone else who stands out to you?
And toDay, MnMnM (lol) put 3 votes on him to pressure him a little bit. Then what happens next? Dude votes for himself and puts himself at L-2. Like wtf? I've seen plenty of people crack under pressure but voting for himself was just silly. And scummy. Then I read through mentos' HUGE MUHFUKKIN WALL O TEXT, and I do see Kevin contradicting himself on several occasions. He's clearly playing anti-town and not taking this seriously.
Also @ Kevin: Who are your main suspicions now? Are me and Rockin still on your list?
@ Gheb: No I don't think Cacti v. Swords is TvT, I've said before why I thought Swords was suspicious.
@ mentos: Nice pbpa, way to step it up. Is there anyone else who stands out to you?
Atm, I'm re-reading the thread, and I got a few stuff to say. Just want to say I have took notice of the wagoning KevinM has gotten and I have read Mentos' case as well (to which I agree with Mentos' case).
I want to give a quick jab to Gheb, for answering KevinM's question first instead of letting swords answer.
I want to give a quick jab to Gheb, for answering KevinM's question first instead of letting swords answer.
Cacti
Smash Journeyman
K, I've read Mentos's giant post, but I don't think I absorbed it real well, so I may be wrong on some things.
I'm not really understanding the case on KevinM right now. So he posted a lot of one-liner fluff and had some contradictions? He has also been playing anti-town lately, correct me if I am wrong on any of this.
SWORDSRSCUM STOP SHEEPING.
And Gheb, stop giving swords an oppurtunities to sheep like your opinion that we should look to riddle if KevinM is lynched.
Also, is there any reason for all of the changes in thought? I find them odd, as some people who were set on lynching others (like the ones advocating a lynch for me, or saying that Riddle is really scummy), lhave had their opinions completely changed on D2.
I'm not really understanding the case on KevinM right now. So he posted a lot of one-liner fluff and had some contradictions? He has also been playing anti-town lately, correct me if I am wrong on any of this.
SWORDSRSCUM STOP SHEEPING.
And Gheb, stop giving swords an oppurtunities to sheep like your opinion that we should look to riddle if KevinM is lynched.
Also, is there any reason for all of the changes in thought? I find them odd, as some people who were set on lynching others (like the ones advocating a lynch for me, or saying that Riddle is really scummy), lhave had their opinions completely changed on D2.
can you be more specific?