@Mentos
I think you're paranoid assuming your claim isn't a lie. I don't think that there are 2 useful cops (insane or regular are both useful), a doc, a governor and an excecutioner in a 13 player game unless mafia has some power hitters.
Why did you investigate Pierre and Kevin of all the people though? D1 you were all about "Cacti or swords is scum" and you confirmed this D2 too IIRC and now you claim to have inestigated two completely different people? Mind elaborating on your thought process here?
First and foremost, who's to say that Omni was sane? I don't know why everyone seems to believe that cop sanities have to be revealed upon death. Not to say I don't think I could be paranoid, but I've heard this said so much it's starting to get ridiculous. Cop sanities DO NOT have to be revealed on death. To quote mafiascum wiki: "Sanity may or may not be revealed upon death, according to the mod's discretion." As I have said many times, we don't even know what sanity Omni was, none-the-less myself. Don't use the fact that there isn't a modifier on Omni's cop death to discredit the possibility that I am sane or insane(and sane/insane cop in one game NOT that unlikely. Look at Dinomafia, extremely balanced with a day cop and a night cop, both sane.)
To the other question, I've already explained this I believe, but if not here it is. Kevin is one of the hardest players to read on SWF. Players like that are better investigations than players more likely to slip up and easier to read in general. Pierre got investigated because he was suspected from several, and wasn't posting enough for me to even try to get a read on him.
What question did I answer that was directed towards Marshy? Also, you think that kevinM is a mafia doctor, but there is no town protective role?
No protective role CC makes me not want to see KevinM die any time soon, to be frank.
Jump into this game, Riddle. We need it. I'm doing it, you can too.
Governor is on the mind because the doc claim was surprising considering it happened post your lynch, also because there is a town executor who is a mason partner with someone, and governor and executor have hand-in-hand powers mechanically. Also, someone in a currently running game (Wonderland) flipped governor and pardoned someone. And, so, no, the governor was not out of nowhere.
There is nothing scummy about proxing my vote to a town clear. In fact, if I were mafia, I would be directly weakening my power and adding to theirs, when I simply just not do that and post my own false opinions and lead towards a townie lynch. Nevertheless, I can easily understand why you are peeved by it. Too bad, I guess.
I am willing to consider KevinM town because there is no CC. I don't think you address that.
The things I said about Riddle are completely true.
@Marshy, Cacti, KevinM, SwordsR: Who are you looking at as your primary lynch target, and your secondary lynch target, and why?
@Mentosman: Given your current claimed data, same questions.
Now, Several things. First and foremost, mafia doctor is not unheard of, so I'm not sure why you act like Swords considering it is scummy. Also, there's always the possibility of NO protective roles in a game. Don't consider Kevin clear as water just because there's no CC to his doc claim.
Ok, so he claimed Doc after his lynch(which he has given a relatively reasonable explanation for although I don't like the next in a long line of contradictions. You then mention the fact that there is a town executioner masoned with someone, NOBODY KNEW THAT AT THE TIME. I don't see why this is a reason to believe governor fishing, because nobody knew Circus was an executioner, and I don't see how this influences anything. Also, Governor/executioner don't really go hand in hand, governor is pretty much always town(or broken), whereas executioner is more commonly a one-shot mafia power. The reference to Wonderland mafia means nothing either: This game started earlier, and Kevin wasn't in Wonderland anyway. No reason to consider it based on that game.
I'm not sure who exactly I'd want to lynch. Right now my results mean nothing: Without Kevin's flip I can't tell if I'm sane, insane, or paranoid. This is frustrating obviously, and I would love to lynch one of those two to make sure I'm not a sane cop. However, I also don't know that it's the best idea, and I don't have a solid lynch choice yet.
governor fishing is the wrong term for what he was doing, its more like governor baiting. And I fail to believe you didn't think or consider that the possibility that there was a governor. I know that either in this game or in BWM, people have speculated about the existence of a governor and had at the very least brought it up.
I would just like to say, that there is absolutely no reason vig should not try to test kevins power tonight.
Kevin/Pierre, there are questions that I have asked that you have yet to address. Also, it bugs me that you focus on this governor thing when there are many more inconsistencies behind your doc claim, and the reasoning for your actions.
Gheb, the contradictions are between Mentos and KevinM, and to a little further extent Pierre. Not me. I just have strong opinions on the situation. It would make sense to you that I'd be scum and bother Kevin/Mentos wouldn't be? That doesn't make sense given the current situation. Using my voting patterns as an excuse for why you are suspect of me is shoddy reasoning at best, especially if you don't explain what about them is suspect. Also, I have been explaining my votes so I'm not sure where you are getting that from. I find it disconcerting that you include me in Kevin/Mentos/Mac. Even if ou don't trust me, you can always find me suspicious apart from them. But grouping me with them doesn't make any sense.
Pierre, any reason for the increased activity?
Mashy, thoughts on the situation? What do you think about Rockin, Riddle and Pierre specifically. I find it odd that you are starting to lurk at a time like this.
Are people in general suspicious of the people who were on the KevinM wagon yesterday?
Firstly: Not sure on vig testing Kevin's powers. Without knowing what sanity I am, we don't know that my role can't be useful yet. By telling the vig to test Kevin, it opens the door for mafia to make SURE I can't be made useful.
And to the question about the Kevin wagon: Not at all. Not just because I was on it, but also because he refused to claim, looked scummy through the game. While it's very possible scum was on that wagon, we A)don't know Kev's alignment, and B)there was a good case on him and it's very possible townies would want to lynch him. Basically, there's not enough info to tell if it was scum infested or not.
