BrawlBox v0.63d (bug fixes)

Nihongo-ookami · Dec 21, 2009

LIES!!!

But...if Fox isn't being replaced, who is?

Race to see who finishes first, I guess?

Eldiran · Dec 21, 2009

That is an awesome Sephiroth, ZSS, and Black Mage. Black Mage in particular.

Kaye Cruiser · Dec 21, 2009

Wave Kusanagi was too busy playing (better) games and not giving a **** to collapse!

No seriousness or harm intended. :3

ChaosofST · Dec 21, 2009

Hey I was wondering if anyone knew if sonic unleashed had the same kind of data that brawl has pac's and what not I'm planning on many different projects so if someone could tell me I would very much appreciate it

Untouch · Dec 21, 2009

ChaosofST said:
Hey I was wondering if anyone knew if sonic unleashed had the same kind of data that brawl has pac's and what not I'm planning on many different projects so if someone could tell me I would very much appreciate it

I highly highly highly highly highly doubt it, was unleashed even for wii?

Kaye Cruiser · Dec 21, 2009

Untouch said:
I highly highly highly highly highly doubt it, was unleashed even for wii?

Now THAT'S funny. XD

Yeah it was. The watered down 100% ****ty version was anyways. If you wanted an actual game that was good, challenging and fun, you got the PS3/360 version. :3

humble · Dec 21, 2009

Post the DL for some of those amazing edits bigshark before you get mugged! :O

The ZSS looks awesome, how did you manage to give her longer hair?

.Fade · Dec 21, 2009

Nihongo-ookami said:
Echo Blade Zelda?

Never heard of it, I'll look that up.

You haven't heard of her? Nooo, she's being forgotten >.<

Here ya go. The links are in the vid's description.

Nihongo-ookami · Dec 21, 2009

Okay, I see.

BTW, I'm still having trouble with moving the Ponytail. I'm messing with the Rotation and Translation in the Ponytail part of the Wait(1,2,3), and all it seems to do is put it in front of her. I even tried putting in negatives, and it just puts it in front of her.

Mewtwo_2000 · Dec 21, 2009

Mewtwo_2000 said:
I have been trying to make/edit animations in stages, but I don't know why, when I edit only one position in a frame, and save, the internals of the animation file change radically. Then, if I change back that position in that frame, the new file only differs in one byte from the first edited one

Editing with brawlbox changes the whole animation file unless it was created/edited with it? Is there any reason to animations losing loop in stages when I edit them?

I would like to do some looped animation with rayquaza (standing) and other things (master hand going through stages), more than animations that have and end (this dead rayquaza)... Is this possible with 0.60c?

Please, anyone ^^U

n64billy · Dec 21, 2009

Nihongo-ookami said:
Okay, I see.

BTW, I'm still having trouble with moving the Ponytail. I'm messing with the Rotation and Translation in the Ponytail part of the Wait(1,2,3), and all it seems to do is put it in front of her. I even tried putting in negatives, and it just puts it in front of her.

I had a quick try with this as well and I see what you mean. Perhaps this might not be possible?

Kryal · Dec 21, 2009

Some bones are controlled differently by the physics engine and can be affected by wind and such. I don't know where this is stored, but it doesn't seem to be affected by the animation or model. Maybe in the action scripts somewhere?

Nihongo-ookami · Dec 21, 2009

I was told that I could preview the Model. Is this true? If so, how?

KuroBit · Dec 21, 2009

Just wondering Kryal, do you know why Sonic's scaling animations (Neutral A, F-Tilt, and F-Smash) don't work right in BrawlBox? He seems to use a different type of scaling.

Also, there seems to be different kinds of animation smoothing (Interpolations?) on different animations, such as the F-Zero stage's camera. When you try to edit it, it looses it's smooth movement.

EDIT:

Nihongo-ookami said:
I was told that I could preview the Model. Is this true? If so, how?

Right click the model and click "Preview".

God of Humility · Dec 21, 2009

K, so I'm trying to model swap Link's boomerang and Clawshot for Toon Link's,

That's what I did and this is what happened:

The boomerang would be replaced but the texture (which I had replaced by Toon Link's one) would be al messed up and the boomerang wouldn't spin.

The hookshot would have messed up texture as well and the tip was hovering over his head. the colour also changed depending on the direction faced and other things as well.

Now, I am no expert on BrawlBox, so I know of no way to fix this. If you do, please tell, I'll try them.

Kryal · Dec 21, 2009

KuroBit said:
Just wondering Kryal, do you know why Sonic's scaling animations (Neutral A, F-Tilt, and F-Smash) don't work right in BrawlBox? He seems to use a different type of scaling.

Also, there seems to be different kinds of animation smoothing (Interpolations?) on different animations, such as the F-Zero stage's camera. When you try to edit it, it looses it's smooth movement.

EDIT:

Right click the model and click "Preview".

Mewtwo_2000 said:
Please, anyone ^^U

Yes, changing a bone animation causes the whole animation file to be rebuilt. This is because the frame data is stored in one big chunk, and if it changes all the references need re-linked.

Animations don't loose their 'loop' per-say, the flags get reset. They control the frame tangents (iterpolation). Most animations are fine with this but it may cause odd movement. This is a fairly new discovery, now that we have moved on to animations.

Power Marshall · Dec 21, 2009

Hello Smashboards, it is mii: Power.

I have been on here before, as you can see in my previous posts of this topic.

I have seen the improvements on BrawlBox since my last posts here. Seems very good.

As well, I have improved much, so with that I bring you a hack I made using the latest version of BrawlBox v0.60C.
I present something interest to the eye. You've seen Bosses as stages, characters playable as stages. Now I bring you a trophy, and with this I ask: Do you remember her?

Now since Her Helmet is not straight as Final Destination is. It will be troublesome to use this stage . So I took the liberty to mark the edges and ledges so that you could know.

Also, since this is my first post back in awhile, I made a youtube video on it. Here.

This stage will be release tomorrow.
Merry ChristMas.

[TSON] · Dec 21, 2009

Power:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=259121

You might want to check that out

Deleted member · Dec 21, 2009

Amazing, Power Marshall. Zoom the camera out a tad?

Kaye Cruiser · Dec 22, 2009

That stage is sexy, in more ways than one. XD

Can't wait for the release. Awesome job Marshall. :3

STUFF2o · Dec 22, 2009

This stage is already awesome, but it would be truly amazing if the edges matched her helmet better. By this I mean, either walls on both sides, or really steep floors on both sides. That would be crazy.

-BigSharkZ- · Dec 22, 2009

Kryal, I would LOVE YOU in any kind of way you wish, if you would find out how to remove this stupid wind effect. It's driving me nuts! D:

Also, video posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7SgaNdbRUY

n64billy · Dec 22, 2009

Power Marshall said:

OH MY GOSH! Dude, you have earned my respect forever!
(Don't you just love it when someone randomly spams their love for you)
Congratulations on a fantastic make. How'd you do it? With the custom background and all...?

-BigSharkZ- · Dec 22, 2009

To people wondering how he did it, he just put Midna's trophy on Final Destination and replaced the background with that effect from the Bridge of Eldin, then, he added the textures and voila. He also scaled her.

n64billy · Dec 22, 2009

-BigSharkZ- said:
Bla bla He also scaled her.

That's the part we wanna know, and how to go about doing it

-BigSharkZ- · Dec 22, 2009

..Just put a higher number for each value (X, Y, Z) for Scale.

I'm off for the night.

Shadic · Dec 22, 2009

Anybody wanna help me clean this up? I feel like making Final Destination not suck.

FrozenHobo · Dec 22, 2009

Shadic said:
Anybody wanna help me clean this up? I feel like making Final Destination not suck.

thats SV, right?

Shadic · Dec 22, 2009

That it is.

brawlshifter · Dec 22, 2009

Wave Kusanagi said:
Wrong, not possible. It doesn't work that way. Lucas' PK Fire is specific only to him. The only way you'd get it to fire would be while he is in the match too. The Super Scope Bullets are a common effect shared with everyone, thus why it's possible.

Wrong, it is possible. You can swap external GFX with BrawlBox, in the MotionEtc file.

bboynotbgirl · Dec 22, 2009

Shadic said:
Anybody wanna help me clean this up? I feel like making Final Destination not suck.

Amazing! Now if you replaced the AC models with character trophies on that stage, it would look pretty sexy, you know if it was possible =P

herof time · Dec 22, 2009

If you've managed to import baby Sheegoth's into the game, not to mention the fact that it already exists as a trophy, I think it is time for me to make one request:

Metroid Prime Samus

DO IT NAO FOR DEVINE JUSTICE

/end noobish-statement-which-probably-does-not-acklowledge-the-difficulty-in-this-task

Menergy125 · Dec 22, 2009

i'm still looking for help on this. i want to use the background from the level 1 target test stage, but the stage itself is part of the same modeldata as the background. what do i need to remove so that i just get the background, or if i can at least make it invisible?

also, i replaced battlefield's main platform with final destination's, but the ledges are a bit shorter. how can i fix that without getting rid of battlefield's 3 fall-through platforms? i don't want to replace the miscdata 2 and 10 because i would just go through them.

superyoshi888 · Dec 22, 2009

herof time said:
If you've managed to import baby Sheegoth's into the game, not to mention the fact that it already exists as a trophy, I think it is time for me to make one request:

Metroid Prime Samus

DO IT NAO FOR DEVINE JUSTICE

/end noobish-statement-which-probably-does-not-acklowledge-the-difficulty-in-this-task

The Sheegoth model you see is the trophy. Sorry to spill that little secrect(which for some reason was so obvious yet no one got it), BigShark.

So...we can't import models yet. Just swaps.

Nihongo-ookami · Dec 22, 2009

brawlshifter said:
Wrong, it is possible. You can swap external GFX with BrawlBox, in the MotionEtc file.

I didn't want it just to LOOK like PK Fire, it was supposed to have the PK Fire damage and effect. Y'know, the little Explosion?

Power Marshall · Dec 22, 2009

-BigSharkZ- said:
To people wondering how he did it, he just put Midna's trophy on Final Destination and replaced the background with that effect from the Bridge of Eldin, then, he added the textures and voila. He also scaled her.

Exactly right, but one important part: position.

I wish it was that easy to just swap and plot, but no. This stage altogether took mii 2 and a half days to complete, and yet it is not complete without matching ledges. I did not know all the praise or happiness this stage would get, heh.

I am sorry for making you explain all what I did, If I had known, I would have done it in my post.

KuroBit · Dec 22, 2009

Menergy125 said:
i'm still looking for help on this. i want to use the background from the level 1 target test stage, but the stage itself is part of the same modeldata as the background. what do i need to remove so that i just get the background, or if i can at least make it invisible?

also, i replaced battlefield's main platform with final destination's, but the ledges are a bit shorter. how can i fix that without getting rid of battlefield's 3 fall-through platforms? i don't want to replace the miscdata 2 and 10 because i would just go through them.

Sorry, I read this earlier but forgot to answer it.

To get the background working, just move the stage area towards the screen so it will be behind the screen when you play (you'll still be able to see it if you zoom out a lot...), you should probably also scale it about x2 on it's Z axis.

As for the stage, just scale it's X axis a bit and keep testing until it works.

EDIT: Actually, now that I look into this, it might not work. I didn't realize the stage and background don't have any animations... Does anyone know if it works if they just try scaling the model itself? I haven't tried this yet.

Nihongo-ookami · Dec 22, 2009

Can someone help me with changing ZSS' Animations?

Like, changing animations in general?

Because currently, I don't know what to do.

Also, the difference between RShoulderN and RShoulderJ?

Brawlbox is making me angry. Nothing I edit makes sense when I test it.

EDIT: How would I go about making her Smaller? I want to make her about 3/4 her normal size.

timm · Dec 22, 2009

-BigSharkZ- said:
@Nihongo-ookami

I thought you knew , but I'm also working on Krystal. For Fox. But of course, Fox won't be replaced, I love him.
picture here

that sephiroth texture looks incredible - is it gonna be released soon?

Power Marshall · Dec 22, 2009

Choose your Midna.

Alright; here it is. my "Midna's Helmet" stage released...
BUT I added something extra that I know you will like.

CHOOSE WHICH MIDNA:

^DOWNLOAD^
^Something very odd though, after finishing this stage, the total file size was 666 KB.^

^DOWNLOAD^
^Sadly enough, Midna's hair color can not be changed as a regular texture could be.^

And so to anyone, I would not mind if you change midna's texture for your own creations as well, go wild and be creative. :laugh:

Enjoy!

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