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Z-air infinite

R00R

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I remember watching a Samus combo video where a samus infinites someone with zair against a wall on peaches castle.

Anyone know where I could find it?
 
R00R

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LOL It may not be possible but someone made a video of it

I just wanna show some people it.

EDIT: Grammar corrected by HAB.
 
TheLifeRuiner

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i actually tried learning it a while back when it was brought up
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much work lol
sh -> immediate air dodge -> immediate grapple -> repeat (in case anyone was wondering)
 
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TheLifeRuiner said:
i actually tried learning it a while back when it was brought up
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much work lol
sh -> immediate air dodge -> immediate grapple -> repeat (in case anyone was wondering)
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I just started like 3 minutes ago and I'm already getting the hang of it. Try again, TheLifeRuiner.
 
Caleb Wolfbrand

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pretty sure they can just... crouch cancel and do anything in time to react if you try to overdo it.

I liked to use YL's hookshot to cancel on walls like Corneria in combination with an air move. I tried to do hookshot land on ground instantly grab but I don't think it worked too well.
 
Rat

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Ok so testing this thing out in AR. The main problem is that the move sends them up and out. So that means they land during their hitlag =(. (Which also means this is hella CC-able)

At 0% on Ganon:
Frames of Advantage: +9
Frames before a Airgrapple Hitbox: 15
(Jump:1-3
Airdodge: 4
Airgrapple: 5-15
Hit: 15
Grab Wall + Fall: 16-18
Land: 19 (First actionable frame)
Frames of Hitstun: 12)
Infinite? No =(.



At 150% on Ganon
Frames of Advantage: +19
Infinite = yes!

Infinite Without (Them) Landing at 175%

At 360%: It knocks down =(


So there you have it. It is an infinite after around 150%. I'll do a few more tests to get that # more accurate. I'll test some CCing.
 
Rat

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@ 0:48 in the video (if that is what you are talking about)

Here is the break down of what happens.

When you Air Grapple there are 2 states:

Normal Air Grapple (AR calls it 311)
Air Grapple and grabbing a wall. (AR calls it 312)
During 311 there is 30 Frames of Landing Lag.
During 312 there are 0 Frames of Landing Lag. (More Specially you do not even go into normal landing land (30 Frames of Lag (IASA Frame 5)))
During 312 you can press A to pull yourself in, with a crazy amount of speed.

So what is happening is that while you are pulling yourself in you are coming in contact with Slanted ground of Venom. During this time you maintain your momentum.

Hence the landing with no Lag by the Wall and with crazy momentum.

Lol (You run in place if you do it then run the opposite direction.)
 
Rat

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Double Postage?

On Ganon
The infinite Begins at 124% (no CCing)

Lollol
If they DI Down the infinite with never work. Too bad =(.

On Shield it has 4 Frames of Shield Stun. So against a shield that's 1 (2?) Frames of Disadvantage.
 
TheLifeRuiner

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awesome, thank you rat

i would ask what your real name is so i could call you by that instead, but i'm thinking the odds are your name probably contains more syllables than "rat", so i'm gonna stick with that

i still would like to inquire what your real name is, though
 
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It's Nick.

You could facebook me at Nick Kooy (Calvin Alum), though I really hate that site.
 
TheLifeRuiner

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Rat said:
It's Nick.

You could facebook me at Nick Kooy (Calvin Alum), though I really hate that site.
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cool i will probably refer to you as that in the future because that sounds better than rat to me lol

and haha how come?

forgive me everyone for deviating

this technique is still awesome
 
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