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Kyu Puff · Jan 27, 2010

If you sh u-air over the slope on YS (under the platforms) you can dj before you land. Not really important, but sh u-air is better than fulljump for pressuring the lower platforms and double jumping lets you u-air -> b-air/u-air/waveland a little bit faster than landing and jumping again.

PokemonMasterIRL · Jan 27, 2010

Waveland Bair as an edge guard is too good.

choknater · Jan 27, 2010

fsmash is such a good move

random wd fsmash wins matches guys

no matter how good ppl are thyere not gonna see it (unless u do it habitually lol)

bahamutz69 · Jan 27, 2010

so is uthrow or dthrow better to connect with nanas utilt?
because utilt last long enough so popo can get above an enemy while theyre still get hammer (lulz)
i just got a dthrow>utilt w/ nana > waveland >grab w/ popo since i was under the platform when i got the grab
again vs a lvl 1 falco -___-
someone test ittt

INSANE CARZY GUY · Jan 27, 2010

I know down-throw nana wd up-tilt(she slids back draging them back) to grab works on fox/falco plus I think it's easier to wd up-tilt than to don-throw to up-tilt

bahamutz69 · Jan 27, 2010

yea i was just doing it on fox and hes smaller than falco so the part of the dthrow where they come closer to you doesnt put him into the utilt
but if you dthrow right after you JC grab then nana is infront of popo and it works, but ill go try the wd>utilt

choknater · Jan 28, 2010

ChokDat
FlyDat
UberDat
DatTrail
ChuMeme
KyuDat
WobDat..... Chubles?

INSANE CARZY CHU

INSANE CARZY GUY · Jan 28, 2010

Very better than most posts choknater.

My favs ubertrail, chokdat,chubles.

Also INSANE CARZY CHU sounds like some kindof gum lol.

P,B & J dat

PokemonMasterIRL · Jan 30, 2010

Chok you are a liar.

It is literally impossible to do desynced bairs.

*P*L*U*R* · Jan 30, 2010

it isn`t. the timing is SUPER tight though.

PokemonMasterIRL · Jan 30, 2010

No it literally is I think.

Nana will pivot.

id like to see anyone make a vid of it.

Turazrok · Jan 30, 2010

choknater said:
ChokDat
FlyDat
UberDat
DatTrail
ChuMeme
KyuDat
WobDat..... Chubles?

INSANE CARZY CHU

...................

Kyu Puff · Jan 30, 2010

choknater said:
UberDat
DatTrail

ChuberIce
Ho Chu Minh Dat

Useful?: If you dash away and immediately c-stick f-smash, nana f-smashes and you can do anything. I've been playing with stuff like wd facing towards opponent -> dash away/nana f-smash -> popo wd f-smash (like an instant continuous desynch).

ChivalRuse · Jan 30, 2010

WD -> ftilt is good against Marth, I've decided. At low percents it can disorient him long enough to get you a jab -> grab, and at medium percents you can get a wavesmash to follow it up ^.^

Also, I like wavedashing backward OOS -> ice block when he's dtilting my shield.

PokemonMasterIRL · Jan 30, 2010

Wavedash OoS to Ice Blocks, its simple but I like it.

ChivalRuse · Jan 30, 2010

Projectiles are good against Marth. They dispose him to become reckless and make mistakes.

PokemonMasterIRL · Jan 30, 2010

ChivalRuse said:
Projectiles are good against Marth. They dispose him to become reckless and make mistakes.

Sounds like a bad marth.

Since his Jab, Dtilt, Ftilt, UpTilt, Fsmash, Dsmash, Fair, Bair, Nair, and Dair all stop our Ice Blocks.

ChivalRuse · Jan 30, 2010

Half of those moves don't even impede ice blocks. Desynched ice blocks can be followed up with grabs and dash attacks, which Marth can't do anything about if he's worried about the ice block.

Fly_Amanita · Jan 31, 2010

I think I need to gain a better understanding of my psyche. There is such a huge disconnect between how I want to think when I play and how I actually do. I think this is the main source of my intermittent bouts of playing absolutely horribly.

In other news, double ICs doesn't seem to work very well. Either that or I'm just really bad at it... Sorry about that, Wobbles.

I'm disappointed in how I've been playing lately, but there isn't much I can do aside from soldier on and try to get better.

PokemonMasterIRL · Jan 31, 2010

Miles means soldier.

Do I need to dash grab to handoff?

Its starting to piss me off.

I can dthrow with popo to nana but I cant throw from nana to popo for ****.

*P*L*U*R* · Jan 31, 2010

Kyu Puff said:
ChuberIce
Ho Chu Minh Dat

Useful?: If you dash away and immediately c-stick f-smash, nana f-smashes and you can do anything. I've been playing with stuff like wd facing towards opponent -> dash away/nana f-smash -> popo wd f-smash (like an instant continuous desynch).

hell yes, i found this like a month or two ago. its gay. people usually sheild when they see the fsmash animation, not realizing that only nana is doing it. then you can wd in and grab them during sheild stun.

INSANE CARZY GUY · Jan 31, 2010

Wow can you down-smash not F-smash when doing that.

Turazrok · Jan 31, 2010

Fly_Amanita said:
I think I need to gain a better understanding of my psyche. There is such a huge disconnect between how I want to think when I play and how I actually do. I think this is the main source of my intermittent bouts of playing absolutely horribly.

In other news, double ICs doesn't seem to work very well. Either that or I'm just really bad at it... Sorry about that, Wobbles.

I'm disappointed in how I've been playing lately, but there isn't much I can do aside from soldier on and try to get better.

I do this as well. I think it's just experience.

Kyu Puff said:
ChuberIce
Ho Chu Minh Dat

Useful?: If you dash away and immediately c-stick f-smash, nana f-smashes and you can do anything. I've been playing with stuff like wd facing towards opponent -> dash away/nana f-smash -> popo wd f-smash (like an instant continuous desynch).

Vids please.

*P*L*U*R* · Jan 31, 2010

dude, just try it. face one way, then dash in the opposite direction while fsmashing forward(cstick required). popo will dash away and nana will fsmash will slightly being pulled

INSANE CARZY GUY · Jan 31, 2010

Does seem to work sadly. love down-smash

Fly_Amanita · Jan 31, 2010

PokemonMasterIRL said:
Do I need to dash grab to handoff?

No, you can dash and JC grab or just walk forward and grab again.

PokemonMasterIRL · Jan 31, 2010

I have done it many times by just walking forward, but I cant do it consistently so I thought I must be doing something wrong.

Fly_Amanita · Jan 31, 2010

You might not be consistent in how far you walk forward. I think the timing varies by your position; like, if you only take a very small step forward, you have a very small window for grabbing again, but it's easier if you go a bit farther than that. Going a little too far forward can make the grab hitbox miss entirely, though.

PokemonMasterIRL · Jan 31, 2010

Fly_Amanita said:
You might not be consistent in how far you walk forward. I think the timing varies by your position; like, if you only take a very small step forward, you have a very small window for grabbing again, but it's easier if you go a bit farther than that. Going a little too far forward can make the grab hitbox miss entirely, though.

Ahh thank you.

bruceleeland · Jan 31, 2010

Fly_Amanita said:
No, you can dash and JC grab or just walk forward and grab again.

oh snap i just do a dash grab. I'll try jc grabbing. for the handoff.

Fly_Amanita · Jan 31, 2010

Just do whatever you find easiest.

On a completely unrelated note, it's hilarious how quickly ICs dittos devolve into Popo dittos.

bruceleeland · Jan 31, 2010

Fly_Amanita said:
Just do whatever you find easiest.

On a completely unrelated note, it's hilarious how quickly ICs dittos devolve into Popo dittos.

yes this is true. I remember azn_lep and i had to face off in crew battles. It was basically a game off who can downsmash or ftilt the other person first and gain stage control.

*P*L*U*R* · Jan 31, 2010

ic dittos devolve into ic vs popo more often than they devolve into sopo dittos. there is little to no hope for popo regaining control once he loses his nana. on a slightly related note, i think desynched blizzard is fantastic in ic dittos. whoever puts any kind of desynch pressure on first will win the exchange

Fly_Amanita · Feb 1, 2010

Even with just Popo, it isn't very hard at all to KO the other Nana. All you really need to do is bthrow the other Popo or separate them via other means and then do whatever you want to Nana; her bad DI coupled with Sopo's strong smashes means she dies very quickly. Wobbles and I did a few IC dittos yesterday and probably about 75% of the time each of us only had Popo.

Camping with blizzard when you have both ICs against one Popo is very good, but I think synched ice blocks or even something like short hop synched blizzard can cause a lot problems for a desynched pair of ICs.

choknater · Feb 1, 2010

how did you do vs wobs on the dittos? you guys are too good, best ic's out there right now fosho, that is until i get back on the scene

ChivalRuse · Feb 1, 2010

So what do you guys think of dthrow -> Nana SH nair -> Popo regrab on floaties at low percents? You can also combo the nair into upsmashes at slightly higher percents.

ETWIST51294 · Feb 1, 2010

I think it should be legal to freeze glitch Nana.

INSANE CARZY GUY · Feb 1, 2010

it can work I've done a down-throw running sh nair (nana) to regrab they flew behind me but I still got it. training mode

*P*L*U*R* · Feb 1, 2010

Dthrow -> Nair -> regrab works on peach if she DIs away.

I also believe that Dthrow Usmash is guaranteed on Peach at like 90

ChivalRuse · Feb 1, 2010

*P*L*U*R* said:
I also believe that Dthrow Usmash is guaranteed on Peach at like 90

You mean as only Sopo, right?

I'm talking about doing a dthrow dair-esque cg where Nana nairs instead of dairing.

Or did you mean dthrow -> Nana nair -> Popo upsmash?

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