(」・ω・)」 MARS la Marf in Smash 4 (／・ω・)／

∫unk · Jul 19, 2009

Steel2nd said:
I still think Meta should banned.

People need to go and look back at the basics, not just meta's crazy stuff.

Look at his range compared to execution speed. He outranges characters such as Marth, but has the attack speed of someone who would lack a weapon. That's an imbalance right there. You shouldn't be attacking within 3 frames while still outranging the majority of the cast. That's just dumb.

His sword can't clash, thus having REAL priority. You can't just stick something out against this guy because he can hit your hand/leg etc if you do. The concept of zoning him kinda goes out the window right there.

such a stupid character design

thisssssss

snake can get *****:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwvpX-TTw_M#t=4m35s

metaknight never gets *****... he just loses lol

edit: were talking good players

please don't counterexample me with some stupid ally vs m2k clip where clearly m2k has the advantage but he decides to be super aggressive anyway

En.Ee.Oh · Jul 19, 2009

Almost Legendary I feel that you don't play enough high level snakes to make the assumptions you are making. Snake in fact is a very predictable character and IMO, one of the easiest to bait AND avoid and not just with Marth

If Snake wants to damage you, he has to Grenade, Ftilt, or Grab

If Snake wants to avoid damage, he has to block, or dash away (not used very often for some reason)

Once snake is blocking, he doesn't even HAVE the option of cancelling his shield with a jumping counter attack, meaning he's more than likely exiting that ***** with an f-tilt to the left or right, which he has to commit to and lag during, an up tilt which he has to commit to or lag during, a roll, or a sidestep

I could keep going on with **** about Snake but I am in fact, extremely hungover and just fresh off of the 4th puke of the day. Bile is lovely

Steel · Jul 19, 2009

look at neo contributing and ****

feardragon64 · Jul 19, 2009

I was actually just going to point out, look at neo, using grammar and ****.

Like Junk said. MK doesn't get *****. He just loses. What's mk's big weakness? Snake's is being off stage or being juggled. Is MK weak off stage? Does he have bad priority? Does he lack range either in the air or on the ground? Is his recovery limited? That's pretty much my biggest beef with mk. His biggest weakness is if you grab him, you get one hit on him from a grab release. Even with that, you still have to grab him.

Thunder Of Zeus · Jul 19, 2009

Steel2nd said:
look at neo contributing and ****

And censor dodging. He's keepin' it real.

AlMoStLeGeNdArY · Jul 19, 2009

JunkInTheTrunk said:
thisssssss

snake can get *****:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwvpX-TTw_M#t=4m35s

metaknight never gets *****... he just loses lol

edit: were talking good players

please don't counterexample me with some stupid ally vs m2k clip where clearly m2k has the advantage but he decides to be super aggressive anyway

That was type ****.

En.Ee.Oh said:
Almost Legendary I feel that you don't play enough high level snakes to make the assumptions you are making. Snake in fact is a very predictable character and IMO, one of the easiest to bait AND avoid and not just with Marth

If Snake wants to damage you, he has to Grenade, Ftilt, or Grab

If Snake wants to avoid damage, he has to block, or dash away (not used very often for some reason)

Once snake is blocking, he doesn't even HAVE the option of cancelling his shield with a jumping counter attack, meaning he's more than likely exiting that ***** with an f-tilt to the left or right, which he has to commit to and lag during, an up tilt which he has to commit to or lag during, a roll, or a sidestep

I could keep going on with **** about Snake but I am in fact, extremely hungover and just fresh off of the 4th puke of the day. Bile is lovely

You make it sound so simple. I am lacking in high level snake EXP though. But I don't think the snakes I play are like so low of the barrel that my EXP is skewed. I mean they are as good as I can find to play at least online that is.

Thunder Of Zeus · Jul 19, 2009

AlMoStLeGeNdArY said:
That was type ****.

You make it sound so simple. I am lacking in high level snake EXP though. But I don't think the snakes I play are like so low of the barrel that my EXP is skewed. I mean they are as good as I can find to play at least online that is.

So what you're saying is that you're arguing without a base of experience.

Zankoku · Jul 19, 2009

I thought we've been over the discussion of why online play is a poor indicator of skill and only useful for learning the basics of matchups and what to look out for.

TKD+ITA+Mar= · Jul 19, 2009

feardragon64 said:
His biggest weakness is if you grab him, you get one hit on him from a grab release. Even with that, you still have to grab him.

Actually it pisses me off, because he can give about the same damage with a down throw, as we can give with a grab released fair (not mentioning that our fair is likely to be more stale than his downthrow), and he has a follow up. At least we can kill with grab released DS.

EDIT: Also, our grab release only works on certain stages, where as dthrow obviously works everywhere.

AlMoStLeGeNdArY · Jul 19, 2009

Thunder Of Zeus said:
So what you're saying is that you're arguing without a base of experience.

I'm saying I use my EXP, what I see from tourney results and what I see when the matches are being played.

@ankokou that's what I mean, I'm just saying that they aren't like really bad players.

Player-3 · Jul 19, 2009

lol wifi snake

ive made 3 stock comebacks on wifi with snake and did nothing but ftilt and fair (forthelulz) the whole time

dont judge any character on wifi

on topic

do do doo do do doo do do do doo doo doo do do do doooooooooooooooo do do do doooooo

SuSa · Jul 19, 2009

This is because Marth main's are awesome:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15T-zFw02G8

Played on my acoustic, stupid finger slipped off the string once. And the second time I tipped an extra string.

I played really poorly..

Steel · Jul 19, 2009

haha nice susa

I was playing ocarina for like 5 hours earlier so thus the title change.

uhmuzing · Jul 19, 2009

Is it just me, or do alot of you Marth mains have people from Animes on your avatars?

adumbrodeus · Jul 19, 2009

AlMoStLeGeNdArY said:
What does the link to your own thread prove?

It's not proof per say, it's a solution. However, it does explain why Ankoku's thread is not statistically valid to track character ability in the metagame, just centralization.

Still, the weakness in the statistical methodology if we're using it to track what you're trying to track (character ability) should be obvious.

If it's not, then using the same methodology, to avoid cardiovascular disease you should take up smoking.

Yes, that was reductio ad absurdem, I disproved the logical validity by applying the same logic to a different situation, it's just bad statistics.

Of course it DOES track useful data, just not the useful data that we wish it tracked.

Basically, you fail statistics forever.

dragonblooded said:
Is it just me, or do alot of you Marth mains have people from Animes on your avatars?

Not me, mine's from a video game!

Player-3 · Jul 19, 2009

susa is the best mod ever

Pr0phetic · Jul 19, 2009

dragonblooded said:
Is it just me, or do alot of you Marth mains have people from Animes on your avatars?

My avatar is usually a soft drink matchin my title in color.

Hey guys, just checking in on the Marth Boards during my 3-day hiatus. Back to my wifey

SuSa · Jul 19, 2009

Player-3 said:
susa is the best mod ever

You stole my signature and changed a word. :'( lol

AlMoStLeGeNdArY · Jul 19, 2009

dragonblooded said:
Is it just me, or do alot of you Marth mains have people from Animes on your avatars?

Just you but I think a lot of Marth mains are anime fans.

Tennet · Jul 19, 2009

*is tempted to get a zelda themed avie now*

BacklashMarth · Jul 19, 2009

Gurren Lagann isnt an anime. Its a LEGEND!

AlMoStLeGeNdArY · Jul 19, 2009

BacklashMarth said:
Gurren Lagann isnt an anime. Its a LEGEND!

Most overrated anime ever.

KillL0ck · Jul 19, 2009

you take that back

SuSa · Jul 19, 2009

Any Zelda requests? lol

I can play:
Overworld
Song of Time / Complete Song
Serenade of Water \can never remember the proper name and hope that is it / Complete song
Bolero of Fire (I'd need to practice this one, one part is a ***** to do) / complete song
Saria's Song /already up / complete song
Any of the Adult "teleport" songs from OoT / partial songs. (Just the 6-8 notes.. haven't figured out all the endings)
Kakariko Village / complete song

And if you have a specific song not listed, I can try to learn to play it... I love LoZ enough to give it a shot.

Note:
I am a rather nooby guitarist =p so learning may take 1~ week to play enough for me to want to record...

uhmuzing · Jul 19, 2009

Kakariko Village and, um, what was it called again... Gerudo Desert? That Gerudo something song that plays on Pirate Ship.

Tennet · Jul 19, 2009

actually i'm tempted to go Boota <3

SuSa · Jul 19, 2009

I'll do Kakariko Village after I do Song of Storms (complete) for Tennet.

Gerudo Desert is actually long, and a ***** to play up to speed... I'm really, really rusty at it and only have the first part memorized. :/ So I won't be doing that one for a while....

Pierce7d · Jul 19, 2009

Amazing. I'm craving a Zelda game right now, and I just got back from the Snake boards reading a thread where Susa was dominating the conversation. I come back home to the Marth boards and you're talking about Zelda and SuSa is here. LMAO. Marth guides me well.

uhmuzing · Jul 19, 2009

Okay.

Gerudo Desert actually does sound like a challenging song...

Tennet · Jul 19, 2009

Pierce <3 ohai

Eventually i'm going to make a LP for OOT MQ

En.Ee.Oh · Jul 19, 2009

BTW did anyone see that Virg only edited my post? He's clearly been adult hugging with a sexy lady

Raziek · Jul 19, 2009

On topic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWhOZM5WyPA

Epic Marimba.

Tennet · Jul 19, 2009

Raz i love you now, and i'm jealous cuz thats a 4 octave and at school we only have a 3.5 octave one D=

SuSa · Jul 19, 2009

Raziek said:
On topic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWhOZM5WyPA

Epic Marimba.

That was ****ing epic.

EDIT:

Kakariko Village, I felt this was the better of the 2...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l5i1AEBxqw

Song of ~~Storms~~ Failure. (I ****ed up way to many times to count) will be coming shortly.

I will be doing Song of Storms on my electric... Acoustic is a ***** -_-

EDIT:
song of storms:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTT_Pqm760A

takeurlife2 · Jul 19, 2009

almost legendary reminds me of when i first started playing

me and EL hated each other and i didnt know how to beat pit

uhmuzing · Jul 19, 2009

Good guitar playing, SuSa... now you can take a crack at Gerudo. :laugh:

AlMoStLeGeNdArY · Jul 19, 2009

takeurlife2 said:
almost legendary reminds me of when i first started playing

me and EL hated each other and i didnt know how to beat pit

Wait how'd you know that I struggle against pit

Albert. · Jul 20, 2009

great song to play too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcheUTUan4Q

SuSa · Jul 20, 2009

dragonblooded said:
Good guitar playing, SuSa... now you can take a crack at Gerudo.

I can't explain how hard that song can be.

I can only do it decently on Piano...

uhmuzing · Jul 20, 2009

SuSa said:
I can't explain how hard that song can be. I can only do it decently on Piano...

I know, I was just joking.

The only song I can play on any instrument is like the ABCs. :laugh:

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