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Ussi · Jun 27, 2011

Its more when i watch matches on SV, the music pops up in the matches i'm trying to watch.... And its just hard for me to feel intense when the music is anti-intense

:| i like hearing the game sounds as audio cues help alot (especially with Snake)

Conviction · Jun 27, 2011

You must have some loud *** TVs at tournies. I've never had that problem XD

Ussi, the EUs have gotten to me. I have WoodFall Ville and a whole bunch of Touhou music now. I also gotten really good at platform canceling LOL.

Starphoenix · Jun 27, 2011

Sakurai could have picked more tracks that would have suited battling better.

Animal Crossing - 5PM
Animal Crossing - 1AM
Animal Crossing - 5AM
Animal Crossing - K.K. Fusion (why was this not in Brawl!?)
Animal Crossing - Rockin' K.K.
Animal Crossing - The K. Funk
Animal Crossing - K.K. Metal
Animal Crossing - K.K. House (better yet why wasn't this one?!)

Oasis_S · Jun 28, 2011

Starphoenix said:
Sakurai could have picked more tracks that would have suited battling better.

Animal Crossing - 5PM
Animal Crossing - 1AM
Animal Crossing - 5AM
Animal Crossing - K.K. Fusion (why was this not in Brawl!?)
Animal Crossing - Rockin' K.K.
Animal Crossing - The K. Funk
Animal Crossing - K.K. Metal

Well great, now I'm going to have to listen to all of those~

I really wonder how they would have sounded in Smash though. 2 AM was so different, lol.

Knyaguy · Jun 28, 2011

I'm glad the Brawl team put so much time on the soundtrack. A solid soundtrack is one of those finishing touches that adds to the replayability of a game. Also, the guys working on the music are different from the ones working on like game physics. So I don't think time spent on music was time not spent on other parts of the game; brawl just had a larger team working/more expensive to make.

Ussi · Jun 28, 2011

@iblis

All my music is hacked for touhou as its much more appealing to brawl to. Juat music hacks didn't come to me till like 1.5 years into the game for me. I want those 1.5 years on smash4 to have good music still xD

Conviction · Jun 28, 2011

Starphoenix said:
Sakurai could have picked more tracks that would have suited battling better.

Animal Crossing - 5PM
Animal Crossing - 1AM
Animal Crossing - 5AM
Animal Crossing - K.K. Fusion (why was this not in Brawl!?)
Animal Crossing - Rockin' K.K.
Animal Crossing - The K. Funk
Animal Crossing - K.K. Metal
Animal Crossing - K.K. House (better yet why wasn't this one?!)

Wow that K.K. Fusion is mad dope. Why wasn't it in Brawl?? I wouldn't have changed that. Actually I'm going to have a .bstrm made for it.

Knyaguy said:
I'm glad the Brawl team put so much time on the soundtrack. A solid soundtrack is one of those finishing touches that adds to the replayability of a game. Also, the guys working on the music are different from the ones working on like game physics. So I don't think time spent on music was time not spent on other parts of the game; brawl just had a larger team working/more expensive to make.

I respect that. I just think they could have done better. Even though, I think whenever people are given the chance to put their music into the game, it fits their personality and will make them enjoy it even more.

I know have a lot of Sonic Adventure series music in my game because not only do they fit the stages I put them on, I feel the nostalgia

@Ussi: Touhou da bess

jeux interdits

Ussi · Jun 28, 2011

@iblis

Thats my final D song~

Yea i was sadden at some of the songs that didn't get in brawl for animal crossings.

Conviction · Jun 28, 2011

Lol it looks like this about to become our chatroom so I'll just be back tomorrow after Drumline practice. I need to sleep so I can be ready for that anyways

Starphoenix · Jun 28, 2011

Anything with Jazz, Funk, or R&B is a win for me.

Conviction · Jun 28, 2011

Starphoenix said:
Anything with Jazz, Funk, or R&B is a win for me.

You just won this page homie.

Starphoenix · Jun 28, 2011

xIblisx said:
You just won this page homie.

That is why I enjoy K.K Fusion, reminds me of some kind of late/post-70's Herbie Hancock track. Most of you youngins' won't know whom he is.

Too bad this song will never make it into a Smash title.

http://youtu.be/3vO4oOmVazQ

nLiM8d · Jun 28, 2011

Edited by xeGO.

Conviction · Jun 28, 2011

When will you come out with a new stage concept? I enjoy reading those, they are well thought out.

Star, we are going to have to sit down one day and talk music. That other song is pretty fresh. Yeah i was talking to you.

Starphoenix · Jun 28, 2011

xIblisx said:
When will you come out with a new stage concept? I enjoy reading those, they are well thought out.

Assuming you are talking to me, I'll probably finish one tomorrow. I'm still thinking about which idea I want to go with. Also was sidetracked with my sudden foray into sig making. But I'm taking a break from that for a day so I'll probably make a decision on which concept to go with.

Hyper Luigi · Jun 28, 2011

shinhed-echi said:
I've got the perfect theme song for the Duck Hunt Stage.

This remix is freaking AWESOME.

http://duck.thasauce.net/2010/songs/101-MyVeryFirstLaserGun_[TH3HT].mp3

Nice stuff. Going on my hard drive pronto.

So I was reading a bit of the Pokemon character debate.

People actually think they'll drop Jiggs? I'd be okay with it honestly but I don't see it happening.

Mewtwo might have made it back for Brawl and the outcry for removing him was notable so of all the cut characters I'd say Mewtwo has a decent chance of returning.

I don't know about this debate over Victini, Zoroark and Genesect but one of them will be playable I'm sure.

Meowth would be interesting. I personally feel they have more than enough 1st gen representation but Meowth is a popular Pokemon. I hadn't heard he was planned for any SSB but got cut in the end. That's news to me and kind of ups Meowth's chances in my opinion. I'd rather have Mewtwo back though. That's my personal opinion on that matter. I'd take Meowth over Jiggs but again I dont' see Jiggs getting the boot.

Nintendo is publishing Last Story but it's developed by Mistwalker. So my question is, would that make a Last Story rep 3rd party or not? Could make or break the chances for one of them to be playable.

I don't mean to fuel a pointless debate here but Earthworm Jim has been in recent ports of his old games for Xbox Live (and I think PSN) and DSi which does count for something in the "hasn't been in a game in about a decade" argument. Chances for him making it are extremely low but man I'd love to play as him. I always liked using him in that one Clayfighter game he was in.

Reyairia · Jun 28, 2011

Oasis_S said:
It was actually posted by Reyairia.

xIblisx said:
LOL wtf, why did the quoting system mess up? Sorry Omega. Idk how this is happening.

@The person it was meant to be for: Read it.

Wait what?

Conviction · Jun 28, 2011

...Read what I said regarding your statement "Lucario and Mewtwo are similar" when they obviously are not.

nLiM8d · Jun 28, 2011

Edited by xeGO.

Conviction · Jun 28, 2011

Yeah, wasn't basically only Willis who was hounding you about those sigs? LOL

Reyairia · Jun 28, 2011

xIblisx said:
...Read what I said regarding your statement "Lucario and Mewtwo are similar" when they obviously are not.

Well, they're not exactly the same but I felt they had similar feels and a couple of similar attacks. I mained Mewtwo in Melee and it wasn't difficult to switch to Lucario.

Starphoenix · Jun 28, 2011

nLiM8d said:
@Star: Nooooo feed not the trolls!

I must have missed something along the way?

As far as The Last Story is concerned I have been attempting to figure that one out because I truly do not know who owns what in this situation? I'm unable to tell if Nintendo holds any rights or not? After listening to some of the OST I'd sure hate for it not to be at this point.

Conviction · Jun 28, 2011

Reyairia said:
Well, they're not exactly the same but I felt they had similar feels and a couple of similar attacks. I mained Mewtwo in Melee and it wasn't difficult to switch to Lucario.

That doesn't make them similar...they aren't similar moveset wise or gameplay wise especially when the mechanics of Brawl and Melee are different.

Especially when you factor in Aura Lucario definitely is not like Mewtwo.

Starphoenix said:
I must have missed something along the way?

I think he was referring to Chris.

Reyairia · Jun 28, 2011

xIblisx said:
That doesn't make them similar...they aren't similar moveset wise or gameplay wise especially when the mechanics of Brawl and Melee are different.

Especially when you factor in Aura Lucario definitely is not like Mewtwo.

Whatever you say man, I just recognized some of Mewtwo in Lucario when I first played him. If you didn't, then that's you.

Conviction · Jun 28, 2011

Okay, I can't take away your opinion but it's base isn't factually right.

Does Mewtwo have a base power then it increases with every hit above 75% like Lucario's does?

Starphoenix · Jun 28, 2011

Technically Xenoblade, The Last Story, and Pandora's Tower were all developed by third party franchises and published by Nintendo (according to Wikipedia). So make of it what you will.

Ok Xenoblade is definitely Nintendo property. Well apparently Satoru Iwata is the executive producer for The Last Story, watched the credits. Still says Nintendo/Mistwalker, so I'm not sure if this is a Super Mario RPG situation or not?

Reyairia · Jun 28, 2011

xIblisx said:
Okay, I can't take away your opinion but it's base isn't factually right.

Does Mewtwo have a base power then it increases with every hit above 75% like Lucario's does?

Of course Mewtwo didn't. That was a new mechanic with Lucario, I simply felt that the moveset was a little similar. Jeez...

I can't really put my finger in it, but Lucario did remind me of Mewtwo.

Conviction · Jun 28, 2011

Long as you know. Your opinion is yours. Just, it's not right to say the are similar when data says otherwise. :-/ Sorry to be an *** about it LOL

Reyairia · Jun 28, 2011

Whatever man.

Conviction · Jun 28, 2011

Haha, aight.

Claire Diviner · Jun 28, 2011

Reyairia said:
Of course Mewtwo didn't. That was a new mechanic with Lucario, I simply felt that the moveset was a little similar. Jeez... I can't really put my finger in it, but Lucario did remind me of Mewtwo.

I dunno, I think the only thing Lucario has in common with Mewtwo is the standard B, Aura Sphere being similar to Shadow Ball. Other than that, that's pretty much where the similarities end as far as I know.

Conviction · Jun 28, 2011

^^^ That's what I was saying lol.

Barbasol · Jun 28, 2011

I wouldn't hope TOO much for Last Story/Pandora's Tower/Xenoblade to make it into Smash 4 in character form for sure. Same goes for Takamaru and Sukapon, really. For a few reasons.

1) Japan Only- I know, Fire Emblem, right? But Fire Emblem was a long running very popular franchise, as opposed to one game apiece. Besides, they BARELY made it over in the first place. But limiting the exposure of a character to one of the smaller gaming markets? Not a good sign for gaming icons.
2) One Game- No character franchise in Brawl at least was a one hit wonder. Captain Olimar had two. Pit had Two. Ice Climber has a half-dozen rereleases and ports. R.O.B. has a couple. Those games are a single, not a franchise.
3) Murky Depths of IP ownership- Probably are using Nintendo for distribution and are third-party.

The franchises we can realistically expect would be like...
Custom Robo, Animal Crossing, Wars, Legend of Starfy, etc.

Hyper Luigi · Jun 28, 2011

Starphoenix said:
Technically Xenoblade, The Last Story, and Pandora's Tower were all developed by third party franchises and published by Nintendo (according to Wikipedia). So make of it what you will.

Ok Xenoblade is definitely Nintendo property. Well apparently Satoru Iwata is the executive producer for The Last Story, watched the credits. Still says Nintendo/Mistwalker, so I'm not sure if this is a Super Mario RPG situation or not?

Probably all 3 are unlikely to get playable characters in SSB4 but thanks for chiming in.

Looks like just about every one of them would be using a sword anyway. Not that I mind having more sword users if they play uniquely.

But there's also Takamaru to consider and his chances have grown decently since Brawl. Particularly for being playable in a game released in the US relatively recently.

Claire Diviner · Jun 28, 2011

xIblisx said:
^^^ That's what I was saying lol.

Truth be told, I hope they bring Mewtwo back in Smash4. Granted he wasn't the best character in Melee, but it was Mewtwo! How often does one get to control Mewtwo in a fighting game? Same can be said for other characters, but still. Also, Mewtwo wasn't even a clone, and had they kept him with his same moveset for Brawl, he wouldn't have a clone, or even a "Luigi-fied" version of himself, since Lucario is completely different.

I can understand Roy and Pichu being clones and all, but what they can do is bring back clones they didn't bring back for Brawl and redo their movesets for Smash4. I dunno how they'll do this for Pichu, if possible though.

Conviction · Jun 28, 2011

I have no qualms with Mewtwo coming back.

Oasis_S · Jun 28, 2011

Decided to pick up Zero Mission again. Just beat Ridley. The poor thing.

For Ridley, how does this sound as a general playstyle? On the ground, I guess his speed wouldn't be all that fast. His moves would come out fast, and be pretty damaging, but not much knockback to them. Few if any KO potential moves on the ground. They'd also come with some ending lag to them. A lot of the focus for his ground moves would be to send his opponent upward so he can deal with them in the air. IN THE AIR is where he would shine. He'd have great airspeed and most of his attacks would have KO potential.

As for as how'd he'd feel... probably mostly like Yoshi? Yoshi wasn't all that fast, had great airspeed, and his fallspeed would probably work for Ridley. He'd also have a range attack, and maybe something special to his grab game (I want to rake people across the ground!).

I DUNNO, does that all sound like it'd work/FIT? :/

Hyper Luigi · Jun 28, 2011

Barbasol said:
I wouldn't hope TOO much for Last Story/Pandora's Tower/Xenoblade to make it into Smash 4 in character form for sure. Same goes for Takamaru and Sukapon, really. For a few reasons.

1) Japan Only- I know, Fire Emblem, right? But Fire Emblem was a long running very popular franchise, as opposed to one game apiece. Besides, they BARELY made it over in the first place. But limiting the exposure of a character to one of the smaller gaming markets? Not a good sign for gaming icons.
2) One Game- No character franchise in Brawl at least was a one hit wonder. Captain Olimar had two. Pit had Two. Ice Climber has a half-dozen rereleases and ports. R.O.B. has a couple. Those games are a single, not a franchise.
3) Murky Depths of IP ownership- Probably are using Nintendo for distribution and are third-party.

The franchises we can realistically expect would be like...
Custom Robo, Animal Crossing, Wars, Legend of Starfy, etc.

True. I don't think Sukapon has much of a chance at all and Takamaru's are slim but either could get in if the development team wants them.

The same could potentially be said for Xenoblade/Pandora's Tower/The Last Story characters. If the development team wants to use them they could make it.

I'd much sooner expect to see 1 character from Punch-Out!, Golden Sun, Sin and Punishment, Animal Crossing, Advance Wars, Starfy and Custom Robo. You just never know what obscure Nintendo franchise might get a rep though. The development team certainly likes to throw in some unexpected choices.

Barbasol · Jun 28, 2011

Right. For Smash 4 I'm far more interested in the new franchises coming in rather than more characters from existing series.

Melee introduced 3(?): Fire Emblem, Ice Climbers, G&W
Brawl had six new franchises: Sonic, Metal Gear, Pikmin, Kid Icarus, Gyromite, and Warioware.

Conviction · Jun 28, 2011

You make me want to research Ridley and make moveset for him. I can see his Side B being a Command Grab that allows you slam your opponent into the ground and rake them across the field. I could talk about it more but I'm too tired LOL.

In Smash 4 I'm mostly concerned about the gameplay, the rosters don't bother me unless something really stupid shows up or happens.

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