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The Strongest Power )Comes from Nothing(

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Alien Vision

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I am starting to feel a power that is stronger than physical power, mental power--even the power that comes from our soul--combined. Am I implying that I think I am God? That I have something everybody doesn't? Or am I discovering something that people can't find, because I am on the opposite side of reality than you are? Going against everything without weakness, and fear? Misconceptions aside..

Let me tell you something guys. The only thing that I am passionate for is psychology, and philosophy. To see the reason why humans act the way they do, and why this world has been turned into a mechanical game of control, deceit, and fear. To further understand everything more than I ever could.

Yet, everything I do and think about, had already been said. Yes, everything that I've dedicated myself to discovering, how I believed that I found something that could help contribute a few elements in our lives to make people see things in a beneficial way just to find out people have said it already is shattering. Of course this would make me feel like I am worthless, like I can't do anything to contribute to life, so all I can do is join the anti-cognitive army of our society and mechanically run my life because I can't do anything genuine. I'm just this ''regular'' guy who is forced to play the social ''norm'' since I really have no gifts to boot. I can't make music anymore. My writing isn't mechanical enough for the critics. There will always be people better in something in every way that I am devoted to. So where does this leave me? Astray? Alone? No hope? Nothing? Purposeless wanderer who is forced to live a long, dull, ''normal'' life?

Even though I've said all of this. How my dreams are being disintegrated by my lack of priority, and genuine ''gifts'' to support myself for an eventful life. I can feel something inside me roaring everyday. A candle, that can never be extinguished, no matter how much it rains inside me from these hardships. I can feel it, when I feel like nothing. It's so strong, I can feel it in my chest like it wants to rip out into a firestorm that isn't negative, but full of passionate grace wrapped in purity. I sometimes feel like I am breathing in soul rather than oxygen. The strength, and this enormous force that sleeps inside me is incredible.

So why does this power exist? If it only comes when you feel you have nothing left?

It only radiates when you believe in only yourself, regardless of knowing there will be people who are better than you in what you do.
 

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I love Courage the Cowardly Dog.

So that picture that was supposed to act like a ''-.-'' face doesn't affect me. :D

Also, if I want to make philosophical blogs. I can. It's a grab box that anyone has the choice to consider or not. ^^
 

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So, your either a humanist or someone that thinks they're psychic? Well, I wouldn't expect anything less from you, xD. And trust me, you aren't the social norm.
 

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I just want to understand things more than I already do. This world, and the people of this world.

God already knows everything.

I've yet to see anything ''psychic''. I just can feel something inside me roaring everyday. Is it soul? Is it formidable willpower? I don't know.

Humanists only want one thing. I want to see both sides.
 

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I just want to understand things more than I already do. This world, and the people of this world.

God already knows everything.

Humanists only want one thing. I want to see both sides.
I'm lost on your religious beliefs.
 

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I don't believe in anything but myself, and the people around me. Our minds, and the deeper thresholds of our subconscious.

Basically, I have no religious beliefs.
 

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I personally believe that the answer to our mistakes, and this world's corruption is simpler, and closer than we think.

No, I do not believe in God (as in religious) for as many blanket statements, rhetorical answers, hoaxes, and how it completely cheats the very life of our universe. When there are plotholes in everything, when the people of the religion can't defend it without spouting the same fallacious ideas that I do now.

We both cannot prove whether he exists or not, but I am convinced that there is no God. There is no Judgment Day. Etc. It's my opinion.
 

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That 95% of the material in this world was created by us.

How much of a stretch would it be to know that we are the corruption of this world aswell?

If it's us, we have control of ourselves. There is a solution just by facing the darker side of reality, instead of being ignorant of it all.

You know?
 

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That 95% of the material in this world was created by us.

How much of a stretch would it be to know that we are the corruption of this world aswell?

If it's us, we have control of ourselves. There is a solution just by facing the darker side of reality, instead of being ignorant of it all.

You know?
I understand. But because we are greedy, sinful, evil people, the world will not change anytime soon..
 

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Well, you'll notice something in culture: morality falls up and down. Look at the Christian's view of history: Revival, Immorallity, rinse and repeat.
 

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Actually this reality is no different than the Christians.

It will never advance.

My reality I dream of, is neutral, and is very viable for any advancement, since it relies on people, rather than objects, and ''Gods''.
 

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I agree. I don't think we can ever completely recover from moral decay and ignorance anymore.
 

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I agree. I don't think we can ever completely recover from moral decay and ignorance anymore.
I love how this statement implies that at some point we weren't pieces of **** and that our morals have degraded over time.

They haven't, by the way. I mean maybe Americans are ****tier now than they used to be but I'd love to see you pretend like you're above the current generation.
 

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AV, are you aware that making vague, obfuscated statements with no support or argument behind them is not what philosophy is?

It seems to me that you've probably never even read real analytic philosophy, it's actually a very concrete and formulaic, some would even say dry. What you're doing in these posts is "more like what someone who's never read philosophy would think is philosophy is like, with good hard axiomatic absolutes, a bluff attitude of intellectual superiority, lots of simple atomic premises supposedly immune to doubt, immense and inflexible conclusions, and plenty of assertions about what is real."
 

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I question the fundamental foundations of our beliefs. If that isn't philosophy, than I don't know what is.

If you are going to spout all of your technical knowledge, that's fine, but if you know you aren't going to agree with me, because I don't operate with physical standpoints, than you might aswell stop wasting your time.

I know something is underneath everything we call ''reality''. SOMETHING is there, and I will continue dedicating my time to learn enough terms to bring it to your side of knowledge. I may not have all of these precise terms you guys have, but I have passion, and these puzzle pieces aren't just some dead end like other beliefs. SOMETHING is going on, and I am not going to ****ing ignore it.
 

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I question the fundamental foundations of our beliefs. If that isn't philosophy, than I don't know what is.
You really don't though, you throw around grandiose, vague, and absolute statements in an unconnected manner with essentially no reasoning behind any of it. Maybe this will reveal something to you, look at the OP of this thread. Now try to take the main "point", or conclusion that you are trying to support. Now organize your supporting statements for this point into premises in a formal argument. What you will quickly find is that your conclusion does not follow from your premises. Why? It's because all of your statements are conclusions, not premises. In argumentation and philosophy, we go from supported statements known as premises, to their logical conclusions. In your posts, you just a state a bunch of conclusions that come out of left field with no support or premises behind them. Then step 2 when you get called out on it is this:

If you are going to spout all of your technical knowledge, that's fine, but if you know you aren't going to agree with me, because I don't operate with physical standpoints, than you might aswell stop wasting your time.
Rational persons change their ideas when they are proven wrong, or they contest the objections to show that they are really still correct. What you do when facing criticism is to repeat your original flawed points and state that you will never change your ideas, as though this is noble of you or something, as though standing by your ideas after they've been proven false is something admirable.

I know something is underneath everything we call ''reality''. SOMETHING is there, and I will continue dedicating my time to learn enough terms to bring it to your side of knowledge. I may not have all of these precise terms you guys have, but I have passion, and these puzzle pieces aren't just some dead end like other beliefs. SOMETHING is going on, and I am not going to ****ing ignore it.
This is what I am talking about in my first paragraph. You are making vague statements that seem to have little to no relevance to anything that was ever said by anyone. Now please do not continue on to your usual step 2.
 

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I love how this statement implies that at some point we weren't pieces of **** and that our morals have degraded over time.

They haven't, by the way. I mean maybe Americans are ****tier now than they used to be but I'd love to see you pretend like you're above the current generation.
No one is perfect. But in the past, we didn't have things like internet porn, extremely widespread and accessible drug trade, and a lot of other ****. I'm not pretending to be some ****ing deity. But I'm not a bad person by most standards.
 

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Underdog, since you are blatantly on the wrong channel as me-- but since you show a subtle attitude, I will respect that and be humble about it.. For now.

First response - No, that is how you see it because you are way too technical about life, and think your terms can prove things right, when life cannot be defined through words. It's alot of mixing, manifesting, and understanding, rather than your technical arguments that give truth to things. Your technical terms only make it harder to see truth that cannot be seen without wondering through the unknown, and grasping something you cannot see. I am telling you from my heart, UnderwearDog. Something is there, and I can't tell you anymore than that. You just have to have faith in what I believe in, instead of acting like everything has to have a physical standpoint inorder to exist. Guess what, I believe that dreams are not just images that our brain processes to reflect off everyday things. It's actually our subconscious telling us things through symbols, and if you don't like what I say. That is your problem.

Second response - Prove me wrong? You aren't doing a fair job yourself, mate. You haven't said one thing that opposes anything I've said. You are just pulling out terms out of your hole of justice (your ***). In the end, I see can how we are clashing because you believe in terms, and a thorough walkthrough inorder to believe something, while I believe in something that cannot be explained with words, or terms. It's faith in what I believe in, and I would believe in this WAY before I'll ever believe in gods, aliens, etc. I don't care how fallacious it sounds. Don't like it, move along son. Not everything can be proven with evidence, and solid proof. Sometimes you just have to go against what we thought was true.

Third response - This has EVERYTHING to do with EVERYTHING I have said. If you cannot see this, than you better stop wasting your time with me. I believe in something that you can't prove. GTFO if you don't like it. My gut tells me something is there, the puzzle pieces are there, things do come together in a very convoluted, immaterial sense. IT'S STILL THERE, AND THAT IS WHAT MATTERS. If you can't hold dreams that exceed ''reality'', than that is your own damn fault.
 

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Guys, try not to go off-topic please.

The OP is about ourselves, and how we can change things. To not let people stop us. It's not objects, or gods that grant us this strength. It's our soul, our hearts, and the belief in ourselves that allows us to face anything that dares to oppose us.

Remember? I g2g though. Later.
 

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Third response - This has EVERYTHING to do with EVERYTHING I have said. If you cannot see this, than you better stop wasting your time with me. I believe in something that you can't prove. GTFO if you don't like it. My gut tells me something is there, the puzzle pieces are there, things do come together in a very convoluted, immaterial sense. IT'S STILL THERE, AND THAT IS WHAT MATTERS. If you can't hold dreams that exceed ''reality'', than that is your own damn fault.
You realize people have been thinking this way forever and there's nothing original or philosophical about these thoughts?

It's called RELIGION.
 

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No. Nothing of religion holds any advancement. It holds no true puzzle pieces. It's full of hoaxes, dead ends, and plot holes. Get @ me.

Stop talking out of your *****. ;)

If you REALLY want to relate my belief to ''religion''! Then..

YOU MIGHT AS WELL CALL IT REALIGION
 

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^ Pfffhahahahaha I don't even think more than 95% of the people who worship their own God even know the entire backstory let alone half of it, bruh. GTFO
 

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Okay? It doesn't matter what anyone else knows, I'm talking about what you know.
Or more specifically, what you don't know. Seems unfair to criticize something you don't know anything about.

All I'm saying is that your explanations for believing what you believe are no more legitimate than a religious persons explanations for believing what they believe.
 

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LOL are you serious?

My belief comes from myself, and GUESS WHAT! I am alive! I am here! Typing this message!

God cannot be proven nor disproven.

Luck cannot be proven nor disproven.

Ghosts, aliens cannot be proven nor disproven.

ME, and YOU, AND EVERYONE ELSE. OUR POWER, OUR ABILITY TO DO THINGS EXISTS. OK? I can do EVERYTHING that a religious person can do WITHOUT their god. What is the point of believing in gods, angels, aliens, ghosts, when.. YOU HAVE YOURSELF. When YOU are there the ENTIRE time. YOU are ALWAYS there for YOURSELF. YOU never LEAVE your SIGHT. You can be PROVEN. You are SOLID. You are PHYSICAL, MENTAL, and full of SOUL.

So tell me? I know quite enough about their religions to see how much I am against it. Don't like it, TOUGH. I am searching for a viewpoint that can let this world advance. To accept indifference. To grant neutrality, and understand things more than we do now, even if it has no physical structure to grasp.

Again, if you don't like my viewpoint. GTFO. I want a better world. So the **** what. I will continue saying what I believe everyday, everywhere. Just because you can't understand the fact that my belief is fallacious, and I don't have the terms to back it up, DOESN'T MEAN it's inconclusive and should be deemed a pointless claim.
 

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I'm not saying it's a pointless claim.
The problem is, you attack anyone who questions the things you say, which comes off as you being unwilling to examine your own claim critically. You're so pointlessly defensive about your vagueness that it makes communicating with you way more tiresome than communicating with anyone should be. (YES .....that's just an opinion.)

I can do EVERYTHING that a religious person can do WITHOUT their god.
Can you experience god?
Surely if you say you can do every single thing a religious person can do, you can do this, right?

Also, how do you know you can do everything a religious person can do without their god?
Have you "had" their god?
 

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No one is perfect. But in the past, we didn't have things like internet porn, extremely widespread and accessible drug trade, and a lot of other ****. I'm not pretending to be some ****ing deity. But I'm not a bad person by most standards.
Actually drug trade has been pretty ****ing prevalent for forever, we also had things like slavery and women being used as property, but yeah keep telling yourself that PORN is what is killing us morally. Suuuuure.
 

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I'm going to wake up tomorrow with a hangover and break everyone's balls, so I suggest everyone who posts from now on follow rules to the letter or else THEY GON' GET GOT
 
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