alphameric's mr. game & watch guide

TABLE OF CONTENTS
INTRODUCTION
+the bad news
+the good news

THE MOVES
+ ground attacks
+ smash attacks
+ aerial attacks
+ special attacks
+ grabs
+ ledging

STAGES
+ final destination
+ dreamland 64
+ fountain of dreams
+ donkey kong 64
+ pokémon stadium
+ mute city
+ yoshi story
+ jungle japes
+ mushroom kingdom ii
+ battlefield
+ rainbow cruise
+ poké floats
+ brinstar
+ corneria
+ green greens

CHARACTER STRATEGIES

LINKS
+ nessbounders grip guide
+ judgment hammer mechanics
+ sdm's frame data
+ advanced smash techniques
+ smash compendium of knowledge
+ 56k's game & watch video thread


THE BAD NEWS
G&W is light.
Correction, G&W is pretty **** light. That, plus he's bouncy.
Now this can be good and bad, for example:
If you play against good falcons you are going to get d-thrown to knees quite a bit. However, he can be hard to predict since he isn't really a fast faller.

G&W has really crappy defense.
His shield blows, so you really need to master light shielding.
A really important thing to keep in mind is to wavedash away from attacks instead of shielding.
Try not to roll if you can help it, because his roll is pretty *** too.
It's short, slow, and really easy to chase. So keep that in mind when you are teching.

He also has a pretty obvious recovery pattern.
Using your up-b early might be a good idea to knock them off the ledge before they even get there, but whatever. On top of that 3 of his 5 aerials cannot be l-canceled (n, b, u)

If you live near anyone better than you at smash, you better start playing them with G&W asap.
In the beginning, you will probably lose. A lot.
Don't worry though, because once 'it' clicks, there will be hectic comboization.


THE GOOD NEWS
G&W has really awesome priority and some pretty sweet attacks.
His moves last for DAYS, so if you do things right you can anticipate everything your opponent will fall into.

ALL his smashes can be spammed. Even though they might come out a bit slow, if you time it perfectly and resmash. G&W won't even leave the smash stance, letting you spam to your hearts content. This is pretty awesome considering his f-smash is really long, and this will let you make it last even longer with minimal interruption.

His moves also have pretty good knockback and combo potential, but I'll get into that later.

Anyone considering to play G&W needs to learn how to l-cancel.
I don't mean needs like a rich needing a quarter, I mean
needs like a human needing oxygen to live. All his aerial attacks can't be canceled, except the f-air and d-air.
If you're in the habit of l-canceling all your aerials, do it anyways.

G&W has a pretty sweet wavedash and waveland. With that said, wavedash. Wavedash, wavedash, wavedash.
I try not to run unless I'm mindgaming, or plan on using the dash attack (or am I).
Simply put, G&W is loads faster if you wavedash and waveland. Not just in movement either;
The smash attacks will come out faster.
For example:
Running to f-smash is really slow, whereas wavedashing to f-smash is speedy and kinda luigi-esque.

Also, G&W has pretty good DI and air control. You need to master it.
If you don't know what that is, head down to the link section and click the appropriate guide.
G&W has another little trick in his bucket. Uncertainty.
Firstly, the Judgment Hammer; It's mostly good, so don't cry when you get a 1.
I'll be ****ed if there's actually a pattern for his throws, but since no one has discovered one, use that uncertainty to
your advantage. Even his presence is random, so don't be afraid to do some crazy crap when you get a chance to.


THE MOVES
The bread and butter of our little hero.
Gamey has a pretty decent moveset, but the G&W play style will take getting used to.
All his moves use a disjointed hitbox, so abuse that. Frame data is from SDM's database.

Before I go in depth, any commentary I put into each move is simply my own opinion and from my experience.

GROUND ATTACKS - GENERAL CONSENSUS
His ground attacks are awesome.
The knockback is there, and most of the attacks either set up for air, or chaining combos.

A - Greenhouse (2-3%)
Total Frames: 17
Hit: 4-6
IASA: 16
Window for next blast: 3-16
This move has pretty minimal knockback, but there's enough that it cant be done for very long.
If you get into his whatever speedpumping, theres some lag getting out it, so I use it for 1 puff at a time.
It's not really a move that you use on its own. You should be using this to chain combos and thats about it.


Dash-A - Head butt (9%)
Total Frames: 37
Hit: 6-29
Like all dash attacks, only use them if you think you can get away with it.
The move has some combo potential, and pretty sweet priority (will usually clank anything).
If you plan on headbutting try hitting with the end of the attack, so you have minimal lag.


U-Tilt - Flag (9%)
Total Frames: 29
Hit: 9-29
This move is pretty **** awesome.
The priority this thing his is pretty nasty, and will stop essentially everything sans a Luigi n-air, or some well placed disjoints (ie: Ganon d-air). This move is realllllly good for chaining combos and for juggling.

Since the flag covers a huge arc above G&W, I use this quite a bit, and there's little anyone can do to stop it. It's quite useful for stopping people from getting back on the stage, since you just hit them with it then leap into a parachute.


F-Tilt - Chair (10%)
Total Frames: 44
Hit: 13-30
IASA: 42
Think of this move as the mini f-smash, because that's exactly what it is. It lasts for days.
The move lasts as long as the f-smash, however the knock back is constant. I would suggest using this if you want to create some space or edge-gaurd. It doesn't have the KO power of the f-smash though.
Not a bad move, just a bit situational.
Thanks to JCaesar007 for the clarification.


D-Tilt - Manhole (12%)
Total Frames: 29
Hit: 6-13
IASA: 26
Learn to love this move. It is the cornerstone of all Game & Watchery.
It has perfect knockback; Straight up on ground target, or diagonally out on an air target.

This move is really spammable, so abuse it. Use it as a ledgegaurd. Annoy people. Be careful of people tanking it.

SMASH ATTACKS - GENERAL CONSENSUS
The glorious smash attacks.
These things last for days, good or bad. They are all strong, but can be really situational.

ALL THE SMASHES CAN BE SPAMMED IF TIMED CORRECTLY

If it's done correctly G&W won't leave his smash stance and will just keep going. The same thing goes for taunting out of smashes.

F-Smash - Torch (17-24%)
Total Frames: 44
Charge Frame: 8
Hit: 13-33
IASA: 42
The standard and most versatile smash.
Does excellent damage and awesome knock back on its opening frames.
This move stays our for a loong time, so it's ideal for almost any situation.


D-Smash - Dual Hammers (10-20%)
Total Frames: 34
Charge Frame: 8
Hit: 15-19
Now a lot of people bad mouth this move, and I can see why.
It's got slow startup, and the manhole is usually a better choice.

Let me tell you why I like it:
It always sends the opponent up (when you tip) which is ideal for combos
It can be wavedashed into tip range, plus the wavedash removes most of the startup lags penalties

This gem works well as a ledge guard against people at low percentages. AS LONG AS YOU TIP it will send people up.
For example, it is PERFECT for stopping anyone coming back from stage level and below.
Just tip, then parachute them out to death. I'm sure you could just manhole, but that doesn't always work. Plus, it's a good idea to mix it up.


U-Smash - Scuba Helmet (18-24%)
Total Frames: 44
Charge Frame: 18
Hit: 24-28
Head (but not nose) invincible: 24-28
IASA: 40
This move does quite a bit of damage and knockback. Too bad it's slow as hell.
I would only use this on characters (preferably light) who are COMPLETELY defenseless. So anyone up-b recovering over the ledge.

AERIAL ATTACKS - GENERAL CONSENSUS
Sweet, sweet G&W. His air game is glorious.
The f-air is combo glory when l-canceled, the n-air is a huge chute of death, the d-air is multi-hitting spike of doom, and b-air is defense/combolicious. The u-air.. well it can juggle, but why juggle when you can KILL! Edge-canceling is extremely useful since 3 attacks can't be l-canceled. An edge-canceled attack is ridiculously faster than any l-canceled move allowing for some sweet combos that normally aren't possible.

N-Air - Parachute of Awesome (16%)
Total Frames: 44
Hit: 20-29
Auto cancel: <2
Land lag: 15
L-canceled: CAN’T
THIS DOES NOT SLOW YOU DOWN!
What it does do is kill stuff really fast. The knock back and hitbox on this thing is unfair. It protects G&W from above, but will still hit from below.
Try not to do this move on it's own. Use it in a combo, or as a ledge guard.

It is ESPECIALLY satisfying to jump out as far as you can, JUST to completely own some random spanimal trying to recover.

Be wary of the startup lag though; The 'chute needs to be out completely before it does any damage.


F-Air - Credit Card (16%)
Total Frames: 44
Hit: 10-32
Auto cancel: <2
Land lag: 25
L-canceled: 12
I don't care what you call it, just l-cancel it. This move is possibly G&W's most usable move, and therefore best (imo).
It has good damage, sweet knock back, and when it's l-canceled; minimal lag.
You can chain these things so easily, so you better do that a lot.


B-Air - The Turtle (9-14%)
Total Frames: 39
Hit: 10-21
Auto cancel: <9
Land lag: 18
L-canceled: CAN’T
Landing hit hits on frame 1
Ah yes, the turtle. Good move.
I like hitting people with the end of it because then I have minimal lag, and maximum time to parachute or u-tilt.
It's a multi-hit move, and it cannot be l-canceled, so TRY to only use it on airborne enemies, that way you don't get shieldgrabbed. If I see anyone using this on shielding climbers, I'm going to slap you in the face.

There is also turtle-dancing. My interpretation of this is when you use the turtle consecutive times in such a way that the opponent is not in range to hit or grab you. In my experience it works well against Jigglypuff.


U-Air - More Greenhouse (7-14%)
Total Frames: 39
Hit: 7-16, 21-22
Auto cancel: <6
Land lag: 18
L-canceled: CAN’T
Augh, I'm not really a fan of this move.
Yes you can use it to juggle, but the hitbox isn't ideal, and it can't be l-canceled.
Aside from those things it's not too bad. First hit stuns, second hit knocks back. The knockback is pretty good, so if you have to hit someone with only one puff, make it the second.

You might want to short hop it. If you're quick you can get out the flag and start comboing. Keep in mind that only the first puff will work when you shorthop.

Also, while the move isn't too great on its own, you can full jump it and have time to second jump another move to go with it.


D-Air - Key of Glory (~13%)
Total Frames: 49
Hit: 12-38
Auto cancel: <5
Land lag: 20
L-canceled: 10
Ground hit hits on first 2 frames
Use and abuse this move. It hits twice (1 in air, 1 in ground) AND it spikes when done in the opening frames.
SHFFL this move to your hearts content, but be aware that it can be shield-grabbed if you become really predictable. Try to l-cancel this as much as possible since G&W is pretty exposed without doing so.


SPECIAL ATTACKS - GENERAL CONSENSUS
Lets be honest here, G&W doesn't really have the BEST specials, but they are pretty fun to use.

B - Chef (3% (Bacon), 9% (Pan))
1st sausage release: 18
Pan hits: 18-21
Window for next B hit: 20-34
Last frame: 49
B hit sets to frame 3
A Sausage lasts 80 frames or until it lands.
The glory of Game & Watch. The bacon can be used as a simple mindgame, though I don't suggest it.
What I DO suggest is using it as a ledge guard. Spam it against people level or below the stage, or fire a couple at people coming from above.

The starting arc of the bacon never really changes, so use that to your advantage. Watch the bacon, if you can tell it's going to hit, jump out after it and use a f-air or n-air on that fool.
For people coming from below; if you are fortunate and your opponent misses the sweetspot, thus hitting bacon, f-smash him.

OBVIOUSLY there's the pan spike. You can be on the stage and scald them with your pan, OR be badass and leap out and send them down in a blaze of greasy fat and humiliation.
The pan spike is really tricky to use, so if you plan on doing it a lot, get used to missing once in a while.

Oh, and this move cancels jumps, so you can auto-shorthop under people and burn them.


Forward-B - Judgment Hammer
Total Frames: 49
Hit: 16-29
9 has a slightly smaller hitbox
Ah yes, the hammer. Now it's usually hit or miss.
The only real BAD thing is the 1, everything else is a variation of luck or something else.
The hammers last for a pretty long time so don't be afraid to recover with it (near a ledge) or fall with it.

Here's the lowdown:
Since the Judgment Hammer is covered extensively elsewhere, here's a quote from that thread

1. The first hammer in a match cannot be a 1 or 2.
2. The second hammer in a match cannot be a 2.
3. Any number the hammer displays cannot be obtained again until after 2 more hammers.
4. A death (fall or SD) will reset the rules currently applied to #3.

- As long as the hammer animation starts, it will count as the next number
Note: may not be version 00 applicable

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Down-B - Oil Panic (Unlimited Damage)
Total Frames (minimum): 49
Starts absorbing: 5
Hit: 2-37
If you keep holding, it loops from frames 5-37. When you release, it keeps up until the loop runs out.
When it stops "catching", 12 frames of lag.
When a projectile is caught, 25 frames of invincibility, then the loop starts again.
Well.. not unlimited. The thing about this move is that it's completely useless unless you catch 3 energy projectiles.
After you have 3, G&W will spew out a 3 hit melee attack that will do damage depending on what was caught.

Couple things to keep in mind; Jumping and releasing has less effect than standing and releasing.

Be careful with this one; Though you can catch lasers and stuff, the lag is really bad. I suggest tapping down-b to bring it out, since it'll be out for a while and you don't want it out any longer than that.

You can use it to stall in the air if you want, but it's not recommended since someone will probably come and kill you when you try and put it away.

Speaking of getting killed, if you catch anything, it stays with you even after you die.

ALSO, if (for whatever reason) you want to keep it out long, you don't need to hold down-b, just bring it out with down-b, then just hold b. Doing that will make sure you don't turn around (which is really bad).

Basically, if you are playing a Samus or some ****, you better catch those blasts, since 3 full ones will usually result in a KO if you hit the panic. Same thing goes for Zeldas fireballs.

Here are a couple lists regarding stuff you can and cannot catch in the bucket:
Up-B - Fireman (6%)
Total Frames: 39
Hit: 1-37
Land lag: 40
Land fall special lag: 6
Not really an attack, but more of a recovery thing. It has HUGE vertical recovery as well as a sweetspot.
You can combo light people like Luigi with it, but it can be risky.


GRABS - GENERAL CONSENSUS
I'm not really going to go in depth here since nessbounder already has made a sweet gripping guide.
With that said, G&W has pretty good grabs.
They're random, so mix it up and your opponent won't know which way you're going to hurl him.
His throws almost always result in combo openings, so keep on your toes and start f-air/n-airing.
Also, his juggle animation is faster/slower depending on the weight of your opponent.

Grab-A - Bell (3%)
This is your standard bell whacking. Nothing special, just whack and toss.


F-Throw - Juggle (8%)
Standard forward throw.


B-Throw - Juggle (8%)
Standard backward throw.


U-Throw - Juggle (8%)
Standard upward throw. This thing chaingrabs pretty well, so make use of it.


D-Throw - Juggle (8%)
Standard downward throw.
First things first, this throw gets DI'd the easiest, so only use it if the opponent is at a low percentage.

Here's a handy little tip for playing fastfallers; When they are 0-15%, d-throw then immediately grab again.
Instant chaingrab and an easy 16% (at least).


LEDGING - GENERAL CONSENSUS
Ledging refers to everything that happens on the ledge. Luckily for us G&W has pretty decent ledge guarding abilities, because the rest isn't that spectacular.

Ledge Guarding
You have a couple of options when it comes to this.
Theres the standard reverse wavedash to ledge grab, as well as some variants of that.

There are the cooler methods to ledge guard:
D-Tilt works wonders on the ledge, and it should be the instant choice for guarding against people coming horizontally, or vertically from below.
If someone is coming from above, then a parachute or flag should do the job.
If you are playing a lightweight (Luigi/Pichu etc) that overshoots the ledge and ends up above the stage, then a u-smash will deal sufficient punishment.

For something flashier, you could try leaping out and meeting the would be survivor with a huge parachute/f-air. If you are feeling even FLASHIER try your skill with a pan-spike or d-air meteor spike. Don't forget you can do pan-spikes from standing on the ledge as well. They're not as badass, but they're pretty sweet too.

If you are guarding against someone thats coming from below the stage, and is not at a deathly percentage yet; d-smash them. The d-smash works well against Foxes and Falcos because when it's timed correctly it will stop their firewhatever/phantasm's. The d-smash will send them right up into prime parachute, or u-tilting height.


Recovery
G&W has a pretty decent recovery game.
The only problem is that he can become predictable, then easy to stop.

If you are looking for info on sweet spots, scroll down to the stage section

Luckily, G&W has a some sweet magnet hands after doing his up-b. If you don't use your up-b then you need to be slightly above the ledge in order to grab it. This is especially true coming out of an air-dodge, since G&W will have a bad case of Yoshi hands.

If you can help it, try and mix up your recovery by purposely overshooting, or airdodging onto the stage, or even attacking. If you are high enough of the ledge spamming bacon works pretty well. Other than that any other aerial would do, just be aware of the lag.


Getting Off The Ledge
Once you're on the ledge there are a couple methods you could use to get back onto the stage.
I'm not talking about any trickery or whatever on the ledge, but actually getting onto the stage.
I'm going to break the methods up into two distinct behaviors; aggressive and defensive.
STAGES
This is just a quick overview on the best and worst stages for G&W...
well my opinion of the best and worst.

For most of the stages, I have screengrabs.
These images act as a double guide, which means they serve two purposes.

● The final height after an up-b where the next frame results in a sweet spot
● The approximate distance from the ledge where you would press L/R to tech


CHARACTER STRATEGIES
Will write depending guide response, and when I have more definitive information.



LINKS
Here are a collection of interesting links that may have been referenced during guide. These will help you further understand the mechanics of G&W.

NESSBOUNDERS GRIP GUIDE LINK
This guide is basically the complete guide to chain-grabbing with Game & Watch.
Read it if you want to have any chance against spanimals.

JUDGMENT MECHANICS STUDY LINK
Not exactly a guide, but more of an informational thread regarding the fearsome Judgment Hammer.
You don't need to read it, but I suggest you do.

SDM'S FRAME DATA LINK
SuperDoodleMan compiled this awesome frame data for every character in the game. If you want to be really technical, read it. It may even give you a leg up when it comes to fighting against your opponents.
You need a program that can open spreadsheet files in order to view the data. However, I might put them up on google spreadsheets with sdm's permission.

ADVANCED SMASH TECHNIQUES LINK
This guide is pretty much the goto place if you need to learn the general lowdown on teching, DI, Smash DI, C-Stick DI, and crouch canceling. READ IT

COMPENDIUM OF KNOWLEDGE LINK
This is exactly what the title states. It's a collection of all the terms and some quick 'n' dirty how-to's regarding smash. If you are new to smash, or just want to brush up, read this.

56K'S GAME & WATCH VIDEO THREAD LINK
56k has compiled a list of most of the G&W videos available. If there's a match you're looking for or want to add, check it out.

That's about it for now.
If you want me to cover anything else, let me know and I'll write it up

It's a very good start but I don't understand why you said that bair cannot be L-canceled, I thought any move can be L-canceled

I'll like to see some combo information (most used combos and what works best against each character)

Match ups, hmm you should do it against spacies first.

Bair/Nair and Uair cannot be L-cancled with G&W..

PDOT said:

Bair/Nair and Uair cannot be L-cancled with G&W..

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Hmm that's pretty weird. I think I gotta believe you cause you're the G&W mains.

N-Air has yet to be determined if it can be l-canceled.
I suggest l-canceling anyways so you don't lose the habit.

I will be adding alot more to this guide.
Think of this as the skeleton for copious amounts of info.

Oskurito said:

Hmm that's pretty weird. I think I gotta believe you cause you're the G&W mains.

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I don't main him but **** he's so fun.

Nair can't be L-canceled.

56k said:

Nair can't be L-canceled.

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Yeah it can. I personally use G+W as a counter to Mute City and most Peaches, as well in team battles and friendlies, and I can say it CAN and SHOULD always be l-cancelled.

Re: the Judgment Mechanics info, might want to mention that it's not Version 00 applicable or whatever to the quote.

Good use of bolds/colors to make the guide both look better and make finding things easier. Maybe color code the Table of Contents version of each section name to the color used at the beginning of each actual section?

PDOT said:

I don't main him but **** he's so fun.

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Yeah , I'm looking for some vids of G&W so I can play him decently.

ss118 said:

Yeah it can. I personally use G+W as a counter to Mute City and most Peaches, as well in team battles and friendlies, and I can say it CAN and SHOULD always be l-cancelled.

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Nair can NOT be L-canceled. Nair has a landing lag of 15 frames. If you try to L-cancel Nair, it still has a landing lag of 15 frames.

Oskurito, check out the G&W video thread I made

56k said:

Nair can NOT be L-canceled. Nair has a landing lag of 15 frames. If you try to L-cancel Nair, it still has a landing lag of 15 frames.

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.whatever.

56k said:

Nair can NOT be L-canceled. Nair has a landing lag of 15 frames. If you try to L-cancel Nair, it still has a landing lag of 15 frames.

Oskurito, check out the G&W video thread I made

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:O Give me the link please

Oskurito said:

:O Give me the link please

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http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=93825

Have fun on your way to G+Wdom

this guide is very awesome the color coding and the text is very well done...I am very thankful for this guide

alphameric said:

N-Air has yet to be determined if it can be l-canceled.

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Not really. There isn't really any (non-anecdotal) evidence it can be Lcancelled, whereas SDM's frame chart, which he did using AR, says that it can't be Lcancelled.

http://www.angelfire.com/games5/superdoodleman/frames.html

Ftilt is not faster than Fsmash, they actually come out on the same frame (look at Hyuga's link). In fact, both moves take the exact same number of frames, but Fsmash does damage for 3 more frames. The only advantage that Ftilt has over Fsmash is that the damage/knockback doesn't fade as quickly (i.e. it's still decent if it hits at the very end), whereas Fsmash fades pretty fast and does almost nothing at the end, and also i think the hitbox for Ftilt is slightly bigger.

You forgot that you can yell "Chair!" when you pull it out.

technomancer said:

You forgot that you can yell "Chair!" when you pull it out.

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LOL thats pretty funny.

I think it'll be cool to put the frame data for each move in this guide.

Oskurito said:

LOL thats pretty funny.

I think it'll be cool to put the frame data for each move in this guide.

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good idea.
adding it now.

alphameric said:

good idea.
adding it now.

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Ok I'm glad that I gave you that idea

I've added a changelog, so if anyone suggests any features just check that instead of searching for me posting about it

This guide is getting better Props to the maker

Just a comment about Yoshi's Story...you can get very easy kills by knocking the opponent off the stage, then jumping (preferably from the side platforms because they're higher) out and hitting them with a fair, then second-jumping and hitting them with another fair. This will usually kill them because they'll be so close to the death wall. You will easily be able to make it back with an up B. That's why I suggest jumping from the side platforms because you'll have more room up B back to the stage. Try to move closer to the deathwall with each jump. The further from the stage they are, the better.

In other words:

A double fair off the stage can grant you some fast kills on Yoshi's story.

This probably applies to a lot of other stages, but it's definitely most effective here. After the second fair there's usually no time to recover before they get send past the deathwall and die.

DireVulcan said:

Probably the prettiest guide period.
Well done.

If you want a better guide on how to win with GaW, just stare at my sig for a few hours.

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lmao
key -> backthrow -> nine, got it

56k said:

Just a comment about Yoshi's Story...

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I have a similar method starting from one side of the stage to the opposite death wall.
I f-air once so they are around height of the opposite platform, then f-air them again off the stage (i land on the platform), then i jump off the stage and meet them with another f-air or parachute (depending on their height/distance).

that works pretty well too.
double f-airs way off the stage is a bit overkill imo, and if your opponent sees what you are doing, then they could just sd and kill you before you even get back to the stage.
It's a risky proposition

Er.. What about the match ups for G&W?

It's not as risky as it seems, especially on Yoshi's Story. Heck maybe it is, I just came up with it this week but I haven't experienced any problems yet. After getting shinespiked, dair-knee'd, [anything by Marth and Sheik]'d, and shine combo'd all over the place, I have no problem with overkilling my opponents. I need all I can get.

i'll write some when i get some more time

sweet guide, i am picking him up because it looks like he can do some bad*** stuff to falco.

Awesomeness, im glad there is a guide back up for G&W seeing as how the other one kinda died or just got erased. Anywho nice job i'll be coming back here to show my friend why and what happens when something he trys to hit me with doesnt do it and i end up hitting him and or K.Oing him.

Smasherkik7 said:

What is "tip" with the D-smash, and how do you do it ?

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The tip/sweetspot is in the middle of either hammer. Using it is just a matter of proper spacing.

Pasqual said:

The tip/sweetspot is in the middle of either hammer. Using it is just a matter of proper spacing.

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It's actually the outside edge of either edge, not the middle.
I plan on getting my hands on my friends copy of AR so I can take hitbox shots of each move

awesome guide, brinstar depths is a very good stage for gw according to dire vulcan...even though it's pretty much never legal heh.

I guess you could leave brinstar to personal preference then.
It has potential to be a really good gaw stage, but the lava and often small spaces ruin it for him.

an amazing guide. I wish there were more guides like this one.

i think u post about the turtle dance technique ive heard about it but cant find any info on it.

ShadowJokerX said:

i think u post about the turtle dance technique ive heard about it but cant find any info on it.

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I never came up with it (or mentioned it I don't think), but I've added my interpretation of it to the guide, as well as some other stuff.

Character matchups plz? It would be helpful if you added only those that GnW has a pretty even match with, because i'm pretty sure we all know the ones he doesn't stand a chance in.