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~Gardevoir~ Most Awesome Shield-Caster Ever. Or so.

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Fawriel

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Gardevoir


Enjooooy the picture! xD




First off, welcome to this thread.

I can imagine that many of you might be frowning, shaking their heads or just thinking "double-you tea eff?".
Well, this is now the official support thread for the Pokemon character Gardevoir.
Yeah, whoopdeedoo, another Pokemon. "Spare me, lord."
So what's so special about this one that makes me, who is by no means the greatest Pokemon fan in the world, invest such effort into a support thread for it?



Let me tell you just why this one is so special to me.
Some years ago, I have played Pokemon Sapphire for the first time. It was the first time I played a Pokemon game without knowing anything about it beforehand.
Shortly after finally gaining those darn Pokeballs and setting foot into new lands, I found a peculiar little thing called Ralts, having no idea how lucky I was.
I immediately liked it. A Pokemon based on feelings, how cute! And it's Psychic, and it's so weak, it has to evolve into something awesome.
And boy did it ever evolve.
When it finally evolved from the Kirlia it became into Gardevoir and I first saw the grace and beauty of this new form of hers, I was out of my mind. It was possibly the best moment I ever had when playing a game.

Ever since then, I never lost an opportunity to have her in my team, and even though I rarely play Pokemon, I still share a certain bond with this creature.

Not to mention she's darn pretty. :p



So, what exactly is Gardevoir?
Let's cite some sources!

Wikipedia:
"The name "Gardevoir" is thought to originate from the French terms garde (guard, defence) and voir (to see). It may also be a portmanteau of the words guard and devoir, which is French for "duty" or "to have to," so that it could mean "duty to guard" or "it has to guard." Both refer to the fact that Gardevoir will protect its trainer regardless of risk to its own life and well-being.

"Gardevoir has an appearance noteworthy both for its elegance and its human-like femininity, regardless of what gender it actually is. It has a long, thin, limber body with a pair of thin white legs, both covered by an equally thin billowing dress that is white on the outside and is green underneath. It has a relatively large head with a pale, white face, large red eyes, and a green bouffant-like hairstyle that obscures this Pokémon's mouth.[...]
Gardevoir has psychic powers, including telekinesis and telepathy. It also has the ability of precognition, enabling it to see into the future to detect incoming dangers. It moves by levitating itself, and can ignore gravity. Its powers are strong enough to the point where Gardevoir can disrupt the space-time continuum. By doing so, it can create a miniature black hole. It can use this ability in battle, absorbing the attacks of other Pokémon.

Gardevoir has an unparalleled sense of concern for its Pokémon trainer. It will even give its own life for its trainer. The psychic powers that Gardevoir wields are at its height when it is protecting its trainer from a threat. Its precognitive abilities enable it to see potential dangers to its trainer, and protect him or her accordingly."
An indepth page on Gardevoir's abilities on Serebii.net.



And why should she be in Brawl? I'll go ahead and point out the reasons:

Popularity:
She is among the most popular Pokemon in Japan and generally well-liked elsewhere, too.
I can imagine what you might be thinking: "Of course she's popular in Japan, she's grade A hentai material! Pervert!"
You're confusing her with Lopunny. :p
Japan is known for their wide variety of fetishes, however, that is not the only thing. Their country has a culture of emotion, which probably has to do with the fact that they work so hard; culture based on emotions offer themselves as an escape from the lifeless grayness of a life of hard work.
Gardevoir is based on emotion. She is beautiful, but her beauty is graceful rather than sexy, and one might see in her a loving creature to comfort you when you feel lonely.
Or something like that. :chuckle:

Significance:
Yes, a Pokemon with significance despite lacking Legendary status! What's this!
In the Ruby and Sapphire games, you have a rival called Wally.
Wally is a frail, lonely, unwashed nerd-boy without friends.
To advance in the game, the player has to show him how to catch Pokemon... and the lucky ******* just happens to catch himself a Ralts.
You then proceed to, over the course of the game, observe Wally's development into a strong person, until, in the end, you encounter him again, with a powerful team lead by his Gardevoir.
The whole bit of philosophy that the series tries to convey is the concept of growing up and growing stronger. As the Pokemon representing Wally, whom many players can without a doubt identify with, Gardevoir would stand for just that.
Growing up as a person.

Also, she plays an important role in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, and she's a Pokemon that is neither adorable, nor badass, but just absolutely beautiful.

Sakurai-ness:
Gardevoir stands as the only Pokemon to be mentioned by Sakurai in the infamous polls.
IN YOUR FACE!

Space:
Let's look at it this way: The only REALLY important Pokemon in Melee are Pikachu and Mewtwo, and some even disagree with Mewtwo ( Whoever does so hates happiness. There, I said it, too. ).
Jigglypuff was not originally planned for the original game, but got in instead of Pit due to time constraints and marketability. Next game as well, it was planned to be scrapped, but remained in due to popularity. This popularity has waned, and as much fun as it is to play, Jigglypuff might not reappear.
And I don't even have to mention Pichu, right?
That leaves us with about two possible goners, and since the Pokemon representation might even increase, that makes for about THREE possible newcomers.
Lucario, maybe Deoxys and why the heck not Gardevoir, anyone?



Moveset-wise, there might be worries of her turning into a clone of someone or other, but that is not necessarily true. It's not like there are really a lot of psychics in Smash, and it's not like those that are psychics really use those powers a lot. Mewtwo is more of a dark energy and tail-attack user, Ness uses all sorts of magic projectiles and his head and Zelda has sparkles.

Gardevoir is a dancer, she has the power to distort space, see the future and read one's emotions, and above that, she protects those close to her at the risk of her life.

It's 1am now, so I'll just copy the moveset I've made for her long ago.
I really wanted to make a new one, or rather, edit this one, but I spent all day working on that darn picture and playing Melee. :p

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The way I see it, she should have about the weight, size and moving speed as Mewtwo does now, which will be no problem if they fix him ( making the big guy lightweight just makes NO sense ). But on the other hand, she should have a great horizontal moving speed in the air, like Jigglypuff. The first jump is very low, but the second jump makes her rise and float as if she had summoned wind to carry her aloft.

A: It does a move like Mewtwo's Disable and a brief distortion in the air flings opponents back a little. Used to keep them off her face.
>A: Like A, but she moves her hands around forming a swirl that briefly sucks an opponent in and then spits them out, kinda like Pichu's or Zelda's smashes, but weaker.
^A: She goes into a praying pose bowing down a little and energy appears above her head; very many little hitboxes, low damage and knockback, but very good range - used for defense against aerials.
vA: A more-or-less kneeling attack where she does a blocking motion with her hands - about the same effect as Yoshi's down+A, set knockback.

*Her smashes are meant to look like dances.

>Smash: En Garde
She does a sort of half-spin, then looks away from the direction she faces and thrusts out her hand as if to forbid someone to get closer. A flash of light deals little damage for a smash, but explosive knockback. Very slow startup and cooldown.
^Smash: Prayer
A very low and slow kneeling dance move ( dying swan? ), her hand draws a circular motion upwards along with her head. Flash of light again, same as before.
vSmash: Dance of Fall
Faster than the others, she does pirhouettes that first deal a little damage caused by little particles of light that look like leaves, then a stronger blast sends the opponent(s) off at about the strength of Jiggly's down-smash.

*Using her telekinesis, Gardevoir masterfully keeps herself aloft. Her aerials are both powerful but slow attacks that are made useful by her good aerial movement, as well as unsurpassedly graceful attacks that are the only one that make her attack physically.

Nair: Pulse
A small praying motion with her hands with closed eyes, she emits a red pulse from the gem-like outgrowth from her chest. A lot like GaW's nair, but with a smaller hitbox.

Fair, Bair, Dair: Dance of Spring
Three times the same attack? Almost.
These attacks involve Gardevoir flying through the sky like a fish swimming in water.
Depending on the direction, she will first fly in the opposite direction in a circular motion, then return to strike with her body.
Imagine a snake-like dragon flying in arcs through the sky.
The knockback is comparable to Peach's hips and the hitbox comes out much later, but these moves are perfect for counter-attacking, aerial evasion and mindgames as Gardevoir seemingly changes her position and also makes her own hitbox smaller in the process.

Uair: Dance of Summer
She whirls in the air, then sends her hand towards the sky, where light energy forms in the shape of an upside-down cyclone. The tip of this cyclone has a sweetspot that makes this Gardevoir's best vertical killer, the rest has low knockback and damage.

B - Confusion: A bluish aura is created around her that shakes up any opponent caught in it, dealing some damage and potentially stunning them enough for a combo. Also reflects non-energy projectiles.
^B - Double Team: Works like a teleport, but slower. To make up for that, the opponent won't even know she used it until she suddenly appears behind him while the false image of her slowly fades away.
>B - Future Sight: Gardevoir glows and sees into the future. If she isn't hit within the next 4 seconds, all opponents receive 10-15%.
vB - Synchronize: If Gardevoir is hit by a B button move while this move is in effect, the opponent receives the same damage as Gardevoir. Damage is not blocked and no knockback is dealt to the attacker. Almost as quick as the Shine.

Unnecessarily complicated Final Smash: Wish upon a Star:
You remember DK's Final Smash that makes you play a rhythm minigame or something like that?
This is... similar.

Upon activation, Gardevoir will go into a praying pose and the background turns darker, or even completely black. All other fighters are free to go on fighting during the next phase.
In this phase, all attacks that hit Gardevoir are phantom hits, no knockback, half damage.
Now, in the background, you will see a certain number of shooting stars shoot briefly across the sky one after another in random intervals.
Your task as the player is to press the button as soon as you see a shooting star appear, which might be hard because they shine only briefly, they are a bit small and they appear in random ( but visible ) locations in the background. You have to try to keep the button pressed from the very beginning to the very end of a star's duration. The better your timing, the better the effects. Of course, keeping the button pressed or mashing it won't do any good.

The point is that each star stands for a certain move that will be incorporated into the Final Smash combo. If you miss a star completely, the attack will either not be in at all or just have weak effects.

Once all stars have passed by, the background will dramatically turn light again and the following moves will occur in this order ( a textbox with the name of the move will pop up each time ):

Mirror Coat:
All damage done to Gardevoir while she was praying will be dealt back to those who inflicted it. Depending on the timing, it ranges from the same amount to double the amount, also, increasing knockback will be dealt ( hardly anything lethal, though ).

Psychic:
Following immediately after Mirror Coat, anything within the range of this attack will be taken by a psychic force and slammed diagonally downwards and into the direction of Gardevoir. It's pretty much a spike.
The range is quite large and, with perfect timing, it can take up all of the battlefield.

Rest:
Gardevoir falls asleep.
Due to its Synchronize ability, this instantly causes everyone on the battlefield to fall asleep as well, without exceptions!
This move is not assigned to a star and will be used regardless of your timing.

Wish:
If you managed to catch this star, it will return to wake up Gardevoir immediately.

Dream Eater:
And finally, everyone who's still asleep ( which should be everyone ), will get a bunch of their HP drained. The strength is dependent on the timing, of course. And, of course, the drained health is subtracted from Gardevoir's damage. Yay!
And since this move does no knockback, everyone should still be fast asleep and ready for some smashing.
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*Here goes a special treat for Gardevoir fans!
I've mentioned her role in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, remember?
Well, here's some footage showing her, her role, her personality and her theme song!
Now how many Pokemon have a theme song! :p

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PvATQ7Hcmh4

Naturally, you have to beware of spoilers! Don't watch if you're still going to play the game!


Now, let's spread the love. ^^


PS: Updates are marked by a red askerisk!
 

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I think one Psychic-type playable Pokemon (Mewtwo) is enough. However, I used Gardevoir in my lineup for Pokemon Sapphire on the GBA, and heavily enjoyed having it there. It's easily one of my favorite 3rd generation Pokemon and above all else I would enjoy seeing Gardevoir show up in a pokeball for Brawl.
 

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I dunno, you tell me.
It's a sweet post there. My fun side says yes, but my logic side says no. Why? Because Gardevoir's not as popular as some other pokemon. Good move set though. Any character can seem awsome enough to be in brawl with the right move set.
 

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Weird as hell, lol. But who knows what characters will actually be put in, they definitely should put in more unique characters, like this, and not have all clones floating around in Brawl.
 

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Frankly, I don't see why not. Gardevoir has good support in Japan, appeared on Sakurai's poll, and if they where idiotic enough to take Mewtwo out, Gardevoir's my first choice replacement. She has decent love in the US i think, even though she might not have Brawl support. Plus I have a shiny one in Diamond. And her shiny sprite owns.
 

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Nice thread.

You should also add that she is the ONLY pokemon to make it on Sakurai's list.

I support her.
 

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I think one Psychic-type playable Pokemon (Mewtwo) is enough.
Why does the type matter?
I would rather have a playable Ralts. I love Ralts. His other forms are ghey.
Are you suggesting that she likes girls? *scowls*
It's a sweet post there. My fun side says yes, but my logic side says no. Why? Because Gardevoir's not as popular as some other pokemon. Good move set though.
Thanks. I guess she's not THAAAAT popular, but has enough of other significant traits, too, to be considered.
Nice thread.

You should also add that she is the ONLY pokemon to make it on Sakurai's list.

I support her.
Thanks. And I KNEW I forgot something.
Added!
 

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Honestly, out of all of the 3rd gen pokemon, Gardevoir was definitely one of the most memorable ones. She was one of the more lovable ones and she was often in my party (I think she may have alternated with Metagross as my resident psychic, though I seem to remember using them both at one point).

She actually has some pretty nice chances as well, given her popularity in Japan, and while not as much outside of Japan, I think she's still one of more liked pokemon of the 3rd gen. The only problem I see is if Mewtwo returns, then I don't think we'll get both Gardevoir and Deoxys, because we then get type overkill. Still, she has nice potential for a character.
 

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I can imagine what you might be thinking: "Of course she's popular in Japan, she's grade A hentai material! Pervert!"
You're confusing her with Lopunny.
You must not know the community very much >.> I have seen things involving this pokemon that you will probably never see....

>.>

<.<

Also do I have to mention this picture

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s181/applepieman1990/Pokemon/f41ae1.jpg

<.<

>.>

Besides that I think that Gardevoir will make a decent pokemon entry to the game but many will disagree
 

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Oh, my bad. I was going to say something about that in the main post, but must've forgotten.
I'm WELL aware of the amount of pornography containing Gardevoir ( I browsed Deviantart for some reference art and immediately got some disgusting fetish stuff, which should just not happen ).

But, one of the ten rules of the internet:
If it exists, there's porn of it.

The amount of porn is directly proportional to the degree of popularity.

Just don't go around confusing the two. It gets popular, then there's porn of it. Not the other way round. >_>


@h2ownage:
Thanks.
I actually prefer characters who aren't fighters in the ordinary sense. We have enough kicks and punches and slashes.


@Luke:
Oh, I didn't even consider that. Type shouldn't matter, but... three psychics is a little much indeed.
Well, I'd rather have Gardevoir over Deoxys ( duh ), but I don't know about the general relative appeal of the two..
 

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Well, she would have an interesting moveset too be sure. Appearing on Sakurai's poll is a plus. Popular...

I'd say Gardy has a good shot.
 

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Well, it's totally not happening unless Sakurai wants to throw us a curveball the size of Pluto, but I do agree with you having Gardevoir would be sweet. I liked the thing from the moment I saw her (honestly. First thought when I saw Willy's Gardevoir in my friend's game was "I gotta get me one of those when I get this game. And she's psychic too? Ok, that seals it" (note psi is my favorite type by far :p)). Actually, she stands among my top favorite pokemon, along with the likes of Mewtwo, Lucario or Tyranitar ^^.

So yeah, I'm with you here. At the very least, have her in a pokéball, please. She deserves it a lot more than most other pokémon.

I was not aware of her being a porn icon, though. I'm not sure if my reaction to that is "WTF?!" or "...Ick", but thanks for the heads-up, I'll make sure to refrain imagesearching by her name -_-u. I think the rule you mentioned is usually called Rule 34, not any of the first ten, though :p
 

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Oh, my bad. I was going to say something about that in the main post, but must've forgotten.
I'm WELL aware of the amount of pornography containing Gardevoir ( I browsed Deviantart for some reference art and immediately got some disgusting fetish stuff, which should just not happen ).

But, one of the ten rules of the internet:
If it exists, there's porn of it.

The amount of porn is directly proportional to the degree of popularity.

Just don't go around confusing the two. It gets popular, then there's porn of it. Not the other way round. >_>
Actually, Rule 34 of the Internet is "There is porn of it. No Exceptions."

There are actually 65 rules, not 10. Click Here to view them.

As to the Topic at hand, I would love to see it get in, I would use it.
 

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Haha, I wasn't actually aware of that picture. I just faintly remembered someone somewhere calling it a rule of the internet. I'll be sure to remember it exactly now. :p

And, yay, support! This is awesome, I wouldn't have expected such a positive response!
We need some naysayers to get a discussion going. Hey, you, innocent passer-by! Say something negative!
 

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Fawriel said:
Oh, I didn't even consider that. Type shouldn't matter, but... three psychics is a little much indeed.
Well, I'd rather have Gardevoir over Deoxys ( duh ), but I don't know about the general relative appeal of the two..
I'm not too sure which I'd prefer between the two. I never had a Deoxys so gardevoir has far more personal importance to me, and while Deoxys has the multiple forms on his side, I'm not too sure how'd that work. Gardevoir is really just as good a rep for the 3rd gen as Deoxys is really, though Deoxys might be a bit more recognizable, especially seeing as he does have his own movie. Though in the scenario that Mewtwo doesn't return(D=) then there's room for both of them.

But Gardevoir is easily one of the far better choices for 3rd gen in general, so I'd like it if she became one of the playable pokemon.
 

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I'm not too sure which I'd prefer between the two. I never had a Deoxys so gardevoir has far more personal importance to me, and while Deoxys has the multiple forms on his side, I'm not too sure how'd that work. Gardevoir is really just as good a rep for the 3rd gen as Deoxys is really, though Deoxys might be a bit more recognizable, especially seeing as he does have his own movie. Though in the scenario that Mewtwo doesn't return(D=) then there's room for both of them.
Hmmm.... the way I see it, Mewtwo will return, and if Mewtwo returns, there's no need for another psychic weird genetics villain guy.

And Mewtwo will return.
They even made a movie about it!

HEY! Im starting to see some Lopunny bashing and it better end now. . .
http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs16/i/2007/171/3/9/Lopunny_OWNS_by_chickenMASK.jpg
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Non-sexualized Lopunny fanart! My GAWD!

I actually like Lopunny, too. She's in the same category for me as Tom Nook: Not necessarily on my wishlist, but simply awesome if they DO make it.
"My hips are TAUNTING you!" :psycho:
 

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I dunno, you tell me.
I am officially scarred for life from a few posts back.
There are some things people should keep to themselves.

ANYWAY!!!, We don't need controversy, the more supporters the better. And Gardevoir was on Sakuri's poll? Then my logic side has come to aggreement with my fun side.
 

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Not to mention the only pokemon to have been picked out by Sakurai (which is why it's so hard to actually predict which pokemon will be in Brawl, but whatever). If Sakurai picked it out ecause he actually like Gardevoir as well, then I guess that increases her chances even more, as I assume that most of the characters he picked out were ones that intrigued him (except for obvious joke characters like Link's uncle)
 

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Gardevoir is one of the few Pokemon (besides Mewtwo) that people can look at and not call them Pocket-Monster material. And that's a good thing. It's one of the reasons why I like Mewtwo . He's so different from all the Pokemon that it seems like he comes from other RPG.

She was the only Pokemon mentioned in the poll but that was before Lucario rised in popularity. I'm not doubting her chances though. You make some pretty good reasons. After all, the Pokemon candidates are based on their popularity in Japan. If Gardevoir is as popular as you say, try not party too hard a few months from now.
 

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YUCK!, should'nt have looked at Lemon drop's picture! >_<
Atleast give a better warning next time....

Oh, as for Gardevoir for brawl, Farweil makes some good points, i'll soppourt her to. As soon as i can get that picture out of my head....
 

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I like Gardevoir because, and only because, it has gone from being an unimportant, unremarkable, un-legendary Generation III Pokémon to the closest thing there is to a porn star of the videogame world. The fact that male Gardevoir do exist only adds to the delight of this entire issue. Go on, Gardy. Keep chasing that rainbow.

(Note: That ´Japan likes her because it´s an emotional Pokémon´ is filler; seriously, Japan likes videogames in general because they´re so extravagant but few people acquainted with Gardevoir even know of its background as the Emotion Pokémon.)

However, I think that there should be only one Psychic-Type playable Pokémon character from the game, because we already have other psychics in the MOTHER department, a bunch of medieval psychics from Golden Sun trying to get into the fray, and a number of other characters (I´m looking at you and your stolen magics, Zelda) who use techniques highly comparable to those of a psychic.

So everyone can agree that the three big contenders in this battle are Mewtwo, Deoxys and Gardevoir. What does each have going for them?

MEWTWO
PROS:
- Most recognizeable of the three, as it was introduced during the Pokémon fad
- Starred in two movies as the main antagonist
- Red & Blue were (not too) recently remade in Fire Red & Leaf Green, putting Kanto in the spotlight again
CONS:
- Is a very old Pokémon by now and a newer, psychic DNA villain exists
- Was disliked by many SSBM players due to his impracticality and difficulty to use
- Pokémon slots are limited, and Nintendo will more probably than not favor newer generations

DEOXYS
PROS:
- Generation III seems to feature prominently in SSBB from what we have seen so far
- Starred in a newer movie as the main antagonist
- Can take on four different forms, adding to versatility and possibilities for moves
CONS:
- Is not as widely recognized outside of Japan as Mewtwo is
- There is an even newer antagonist legendary who will feature in a movie about to be released: Darkrai
- Can take on four different forms, making its implementation into SSBB a challenge if one wishes to reference them all but maintain a balance

GARDEVOIR
PROS:
- Generation III seems to feature prominently in SSBB from what we have seen so far
- Is hugely popular in Japan, being the only Pokémon to make it into Sakurai´s poll
- Although it can also be male, it is generally recognized as female, adding to SSB´s scarce femenine roster
CONS:
- It is relatively unimportant, having not starred in a movie or being a legendary
- Its huge degree of popularity is limited solely to Japan, when Pokémon is a very international franchise
- Pokémon Diamond & Pearl introduced a new evolution for Kirlia: Gallade, which is more masculine--possibly being better-liked by a largely young male audience--and would advertise the new generation of Pokémon games

So, taking this analysis into consideration, I think that Gardevoir is the second or third least-likely to appear. Why? While Sakurai is clearly pushing for Generation III (For all we know he may not have had the time to implement anything from Generation IV into the game), Deoxys is a more internationally famous and recognizeable figure of Ruby & Sapphire, and although Gardevoir beats it in popularity in Japan, Sakurai is well-aware that Pokémon´s success is just as massive overseas, where Gardevoir is just another collectible critter. When pitted against Mewtwo, Gardevoir again finds itself in trouble, as Mewtwo has the popularity overseas factor going for him as well and was already featured in SSBM, which would make its inclusion as a character that much easier. Nevertheless, Gardevoir has an edge because of its relative status as new and huge Japanese support. And no matter what you think or say, Sakurai will listen to Japan at least slightly more than he does to anywhere else.

Gardevoir is a definite possibility, but I wouldn´t cross my fingers as far as being realistic goes. Some people say that there´s also the chance that two or even three of these guys will appear in SSBB, but I doubt it. Not only because of redundance (Sakurai has proved that he doesn´t fear such a thing with characters like Link and Young Link) but because there are many other Pokémon waiting in line: Jigglypuff, Plusle & Minun, Meowth, Lucario, Gallade and even a trainer are valid possibilities.

Personally, however, I´d love to see Gardevoir in SSBB. In part because I enjoy characters that surprise me with their inclusion, in part because its effeminate style and design would be a breath of fresh air from the rugged DNA-spliced psychic planet destroyers that contend against it and in part because of the delightful fame story that I outlined at the beginning of this post. Gardevoir for SSBB, but I´m not betting on it.

(I think I´ll make a moveset for it later.)

Oh and in case people are wondering what Gallade looks like, as he´s pretty obscure at this point.



Essentially, Gardevoir had a sex change operation, became emo, learned the art of arm blade-fighting, developed a penchant for bell pants and got fatter at the hips.
 

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Seriously, what's up with those jockey hips?

Anyway, you raise some good points... actually, a whole lot of points.
I have to agree that she's not very likely... on the other hand, one could see her not as another Psychic type, but rather as a counterpart to the two other, fierce, contenders. Good and bad, light and shadow, man and woman/genderless and woman? o_0

And as I said, Psychic is not the same as Magic... at least in general it isn't. In games like Earthbound or Golden Sun, psychic powers or something like it are used, but they still function as magic, summoning elemental powers. Gardevoir's powers are more abstract.

*has no idea how to comment on the inevitable "porn star" comparison* '_'
 

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I dunno, you tell me.
Can we drop the "porn star" thing please. I'm getting more disturbing images.

Anyway, I'm gonna find someone who can bake a banner for Gardevoir in Brawl. I'll show ya when I find one...
 

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I don't think Gardevoir would be a good candidate for Brawl since I keep thinking of it's movements and attacks would be very much similar to Mewtwo's except without a tail making it pretty difficult to create some A-button attack moves. I'd rather have Lucario or Gallade since it would actually include a fighting type into the mix.

However, I wouldn't mind seeing it in Brawl though as it is one of my favorite Pokemon next to Skarmory and Nidoking.
 

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Gotta say no, mewtwo, pikachu, deoxys and lucario are the only ones I can see in brawl, and maybe munchlax for its overwhelming popularity in japan...
 

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Numa Dude said:
Better than Blaziken but still not going to happen and the pole means nothing.
The pole sure doesn't.

That would be awesome, Brawlman.
I'd make one myself, but I'm more of a conservative pencil sketch guy. Kids these days and their fancy photoshoppy banners. *shakes cane*


EDIT:

Stryks, how so?

Regy, I think you're not giving the creativity of Sakurai enough credit. There are enough possibilities to differentiate the two appropriately.
 

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I myself can't honestly see Deoxys in Brawl, actually, Stryks. Well, I guess I can, but I don't like what I see. Deoxys is a comparatively obscure event pokemon who maybe 5-10% of the pokemon players in the world have been able to get and who starred in a movie which wasn't even projected here in Europe. I don't think such a pokemon should get recognition over other fan favorites. I mean, I wouldn't even know Deoxys if I wasn't connected to the internet!

In comparison, if you played R/S, you know Gardevoir, period. You see, little Willy, who is kind of a rival, has one, which is actually his main pokemon (and which you helped him catch) and you fight him repeteadly over the course of the game, every time facing Kirlia/Gardevoir stronger than the previous one. Gardevoir is just more memorable, so to speak, IMO.
 

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As a Pokemaniac, I officially approve this thread!

I noticed a bit of confusion was thrown about a while back as to Gardevoir's gender: the fact is, despite how feminine Gardevoir may look to us, a Gardevoir may be either male or female; Gallade of Diamond and Pearl, however, may only be evolved from a male Kirlia with a Dawn Stone, and, likewise, is the more masculine counterpart of Gardevoir.

If Gardevoir is in Brawl, I'd nominate Diamond and Pearl's female model, and it'd be nice to see Gallade as a more physical, sword-type-y semi-clone of Gardevoir.
 

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I've been growing to like her more lately, and I think she'd be a good playable Pokémon character in Brawl, and I did hear about the thing of the poll, bu I'd forgotten about it.

Her being the only Pokémon on the poll exclusively on the older Smash Bros. Dojo website from a while back, I would think, helps her chances, Sakurai has taken notice of her potential and chose that over any other pkmn to put in the poll.

I support gardevoir for Super Smash Bros. Brawl, I'd like to see that graceful Pokémon knock some opponents off the top of the screen. :laugh:

I have a shiny Gardevoir (only stating this to say that I know what it looks like when it's a shiny, not to show off), and it looks really nice, I am positive that would be the look it would have for the color blue.
 

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Speaking as a Pokemon fan, I REALLY don't want Gardevoir in Brawl.
Not just because it's the subject of numerous pornographic artistic renderings.
Also because there's MUCH better choices.
Meowth, for example.
Or Fetchy!
Leek-wielding duck>Porn star
You all know this to be true.
 
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