Arash
Smash Lord
Results can be found here: http://tia.nealpro.com/tia/tournament.aspx?id=202
Now for what I can assume all of you want to hear:
Officially there were 228 entrants. The singles indeed says 265, but that was because the singles pools were lost/deleted and I had to key in everything Sunday afternoon. I had to go back to the pools posted in the first page of the thread which still had many unconfirmed entrants and people not going, and since I had to start as soon as possible, I ended up hand-drawing pools based off of those pools in the first post (many thanks to Jenn and Chesterr01). Tio wouldn't let us delete the extra entrants after a while so to save time I made all the people that weren't there an automatic 2 wins against everyone that was there in the pool.
So 228 entrants, 8 of which (the staff) didn't pay entry and 7 of which paid $100 entry at the door due to not registering on time. (220 x 75) + (7 x 25) = $16,325 to work with. With me so far? Good.
Prizes as you know were: $1250 for 1st singles, $1200 for 1st doubles, $600 for 2nd and $300 for third. 1250 + 1200 + (600 x 2) + (300 x 2) = $4250 [for those that are wondering, the AIM conversation with Mew2King only receiving $200 was a fake, he did indeed get $600].
The rentals for the 15-seater van and the minivan we rented from Enterprise Rent-a-Car, with insurance, added up to $1349.85 for 5 days of rental, or $269.97 per day. Feel free to check with Enterprise Rent-a-Car (the one in Los Angeles) if you think this is inaccurate.
Of course, to drive these cars you need gasoline. Gasoline plus parking for all the staff members that drove to pick up people, shuttle them to rooms with showers, picking up TVs, chairs, etc. etc. came out to roughly $824 (give or take a few cents).
Food for all 3 days came out to $2624.51. Friday we got hot dogs, plastic cups, paper towels, toilet paper, paper plates, ice, drinks, and pizza, but since we got started late, we saved the hot dogs for later. Saturday we had the Subway, a 2nd round of drinks, more ice, as well as the hot dogs. Sunday we had more drinks, cookies, Chinese food, and pizza. If this needs to be broken down more, then I'll break it down in more detail later; it's late and I'm tired.
The rest of the things included motel room for showers (220), chair rental (120), trophies and medallions (480), wristbands, tickets, crafts to make bob-omb and egg and poke-ball and Tony's gift (60), extension cords and surge bars (110), tables (250), an extra VCR (55), microphone and grill rental (361 for 2 1/2 days) all added up to: $1656.
The venue costed us $6000 for 3 days, including overnight. Anybody who lives in Southern California can attest to the fact that real estate is too expensive, and the fact that we had the ability to sleep there overnight was good for us, since that was the biggest gripe people had with OC2.
So our revenue (16,325) - our costs (16,704.36) = our profits (-379.36)
The T-shirts did NOT factor into our costs, it was Mike's time and effort and money alone. He took the risk that nobody would buy a shirt, and then he would be out the cost of the shirts/prints.
This of course is not counting the things we aren't reimbursing, such as lost time and days taken off of work, the plane tickets for Bombsoldier + Disc (2500), and the sanity of our staff. Believe us, if we had any profits from this tournament, it would have gone straight to the prize winners, and we apologize again that the prizes weren't bigger.
As far as the venue goes, yes it wasn't as clean as we'd hoped, and yes we couldn't use it until after 4 (which since the owner got pissed, made us keep you guys out until 6), but it was an overnight venue, and the biggest gripe of OC2 was the housing as you guys remember. We tried to make it work out, and as far as I could tell we successfully held a tournament.
Singles, yes, took way longer than expected, but like I said earlier, it already started later than we would have liked, and we were faced with 3 choices as far as pools:
1. Top 2 advance and many good players would be left out of the bracket
2. Top 3 advance and we piss off the owner and cleanup crew for staying later than we promised
3. Top 4 advance and we risk not finishing the tournament.
Obviously, choice #2 would be the logical one. Again, I would have loved to have 2 rounds of pools where top 4 advance and a full 64 man bracket afterwards, but push came to shove and we did what we had to. Hate us for it if you must, but this is what happened.
So, that was the bad. We tried to make it a great experience, and I'm sure the Kishes can tell you how difficult these things can be when you don't have an excellent venue lined up, and it looks like most of you did not enjoy it. We're deeply sorry you guys feel this way, and we won't bother hosting tournaments in the future.
To those that enjoyed the tournament, thank you for coming and we hope you had fun. I know that Forward's speech at the end was touching, and there were some epic matches played here.
Sincerely,
The OC3 Staff
P.S. The Game II did an outstanding job of recording and updating, and we highly suggest his services at www.getyourtournament.com !
EDIT: To those wondering, Bombsoldier kept all of his winnings from the $20 matches he played, as well as donations from individuals and his (and ken's) share of the 2nd place teams prize money.
EDIT 2: My apologies, apparently there was a sign about ammonia, but seeing as how someone would have to purposefully break one of the pipes to access the ammonia, it doesn't seem like that big of a deal. It wasn't a lie, I honestly didn't know because I was sitting in front of a screen for more than half the weekend.
Now for what I can assume all of you want to hear:
Officially there were 228 entrants. The singles indeed says 265, but that was because the singles pools were lost/deleted and I had to key in everything Sunday afternoon. I had to go back to the pools posted in the first page of the thread which still had many unconfirmed entrants and people not going, and since I had to start as soon as possible, I ended up hand-drawing pools based off of those pools in the first post (many thanks to Jenn and Chesterr01). Tio wouldn't let us delete the extra entrants after a while so to save time I made all the people that weren't there an automatic 2 wins against everyone that was there in the pool.
So 228 entrants, 8 of which (the staff) didn't pay entry and 7 of which paid $100 entry at the door due to not registering on time. (220 x 75) + (7 x 25) = $16,325 to work with. With me so far? Good.
Prizes as you know were: $1250 for 1st singles, $1200 for 1st doubles, $600 for 2nd and $300 for third. 1250 + 1200 + (600 x 2) + (300 x 2) = $4250 [for those that are wondering, the AIM conversation with Mew2King only receiving $200 was a fake, he did indeed get $600].
The rentals for the 15-seater van and the minivan we rented from Enterprise Rent-a-Car, with insurance, added up to $1349.85 for 5 days of rental, or $269.97 per day. Feel free to check with Enterprise Rent-a-Car (the one in Los Angeles) if you think this is inaccurate.
Of course, to drive these cars you need gasoline. Gasoline plus parking for all the staff members that drove to pick up people, shuttle them to rooms with showers, picking up TVs, chairs, etc. etc. came out to roughly $824 (give or take a few cents).
Food for all 3 days came out to $2624.51. Friday we got hot dogs, plastic cups, paper towels, toilet paper, paper plates, ice, drinks, and pizza, but since we got started late, we saved the hot dogs for later. Saturday we had the Subway, a 2nd round of drinks, more ice, as well as the hot dogs. Sunday we had more drinks, cookies, Chinese food, and pizza. If this needs to be broken down more, then I'll break it down in more detail later; it's late and I'm tired.
The rest of the things included motel room for showers (220), chair rental (120), trophies and medallions (480), wristbands, tickets, crafts to make bob-omb and egg and poke-ball and Tony's gift (60), extension cords and surge bars (110), tables (250), an extra VCR (55), microphone and grill rental (361 for 2 1/2 days) all added up to: $1656.
The venue costed us $6000 for 3 days, including overnight. Anybody who lives in Southern California can attest to the fact that real estate is too expensive, and the fact that we had the ability to sleep there overnight was good for us, since that was the biggest gripe people had with OC2.
So our revenue (16,325) - our costs (16,704.36) = our profits (-379.36)
The T-shirts did NOT factor into our costs, it was Mike's time and effort and money alone. He took the risk that nobody would buy a shirt, and then he would be out the cost of the shirts/prints.
This of course is not counting the things we aren't reimbursing, such as lost time and days taken off of work, the plane tickets for Bombsoldier + Disc (2500), and the sanity of our staff. Believe us, if we had any profits from this tournament, it would have gone straight to the prize winners, and we apologize again that the prizes weren't bigger.
As far as the venue goes, yes it wasn't as clean as we'd hoped, and yes we couldn't use it until after 4 (which since the owner got pissed, made us keep you guys out until 6), but it was an overnight venue, and the biggest gripe of OC2 was the housing as you guys remember. We tried to make it work out, and as far as I could tell we successfully held a tournament.
Singles, yes, took way longer than expected, but like I said earlier, it already started later than we would have liked, and we were faced with 3 choices as far as pools:
1. Top 2 advance and many good players would be left out of the bracket
2. Top 3 advance and we piss off the owner and cleanup crew for staying later than we promised
3. Top 4 advance and we risk not finishing the tournament.
Obviously, choice #2 would be the logical one. Again, I would have loved to have 2 rounds of pools where top 4 advance and a full 64 man bracket afterwards, but push came to shove and we did what we had to. Hate us for it if you must, but this is what happened.
So, that was the bad. We tried to make it a great experience, and I'm sure the Kishes can tell you how difficult these things can be when you don't have an excellent venue lined up, and it looks like most of you did not enjoy it. We're deeply sorry you guys feel this way, and we won't bother hosting tournaments in the future.
To those that enjoyed the tournament, thank you for coming and we hope you had fun. I know that Forward's speech at the end was touching, and there were some epic matches played here.
Sincerely,
The OC3 Staff
P.S. The Game II did an outstanding job of recording and updating, and we highly suggest his services at www.getyourtournament.com !
EDIT: To those wondering, Bombsoldier kept all of his winnings from the $20 matches he played, as well as donations from individuals and his (and ken's) share of the 2nd place teams prize money.
EDIT 2: My apologies, apparently there was a sign about ammonia, but seeing as how someone would have to purposefully break one of the pipes to access the ammonia, it doesn't seem like that big of a deal. It wasn't a lie, I honestly didn't know because I was sitting in front of a screen for more than half the weekend.
I watched him play a couple matches with my controller, and he kicks *** with it! Look out everyone, when the power of my controller reaches bombsoldier's hands, no one can touch him! Bwahahaha
