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Well Windwaker Link, or Toon Link as Sakurai calls it, wasn't one of my first picks; however, he isn't a terrible character. I'll be able to bear him IF he is not a clone, if Sakurai was that lazy, may his house burn with a thousand fires of my flame.
I really doubt he'll be a clone, as relatively easy as his specials would be to work with. Even with the bow, we still don't have certainty in the status of his character.
And that confirms that. Bow, spin attack, bombs, boomerang, standard attacks - hes a clone.
****. I've been opposed to Toon Link from the start, but I figured at least if he got in he'd have unique abilities. This is the worst news about Brawl yet for me.
I'm pretty sure he's not a clone, watch the ganondorf vs toon link video. And how can you say Sakurai is lazy? Look at how much he has done already. We won't all die if he makes a couple characters somewhat similar.
boomerang is different. tp links is gale boomerang, ww links is normal.
spin attack is different. ww link can charge his and also has different sword movements.
bombs, i dunno.
his style is also very different, as in play style, it seems he can jump higher and further, and can run faster.
so, YES, he is sort of a clone, but no more than luigi is marios clone
You guys are grasping at straws. All of the clones in Melee had minor physics differences with their attacks - Young Link's spin attack did multiple hits rather than launching foes, his fsmash had scant knockback on the first swing and most of its force on the second, Falco had his dair spike rather than a comboing dair like Fox, Ganondorf's neutral A was quicker and more powerful than Captain Falcon's, Roy's counter did 1.5x the damage of the attack it countered rather than a set amount, etc - and thats precisely what we see with Toon Link. Yup, his boomerang isn't the gale one, but its still a boomerang. His spin attack doesn't seem different at all (we've known Link could charge his in Brawl for probably close to half a year now, so I'm not sure how you thought that). All of his standard attacks we've seen have the same animation, even if they cause different damage amounts or have different knockback stats. And he has a bow and bombs for his other specials, the same as Link. Thats not a Luigified clone - thats a pure clone.
Luigi was different in that several of his standard attacks were completely different from Mario's (his dash attack, for instance, rather than being a sliding kick, is a series of punches) and he had one special move completely unique to him (Green Missile) - Toon Link displays no such traits in that video.
Atleast Toon link isnt as bad as young link from Melee, they looked the exact same. and since Toon link is obvious a light fast character it gives people who say link is to slow a nice change.
At first i resented toon link being a link user but watching his video he looks pretty good a clone but as far as clones go he is good i will give him a try
I STILL don't know why everybody hates clones so much. Ugh. I like to think of it this way: We have a set of moves, and they all have pretty good potential. But how will you use them? Will you sacrifice their power, and go light and fast, or sacrifice your speed and use them for more powerful hits?
I've never minded clones, but nonetheless, YL, in my opinion, is one of the best clones you could ever have. He's actually useful. There were redundant clones, yes. Pichu was faster and lighter, much like YL, but had, in my opinion, too many flaws, and just seemed like a weak character. I hardly notice the difference in Dr. Mario and Mario today, and Roy is a slightly more powerful version of Marth.
But then, there's YL. Sure, you could say he's simply a faster, lighter version of Link. At the core he is, but it changes everything. Young Link is a combo stringing master, a projectile monster, and if used right, a pest. Link, due to size, weight, and everything, is quite the contrary, and any master will play them completely differently.
Now, he is a clone, but I see in TL many things I don't see in other characters. He's got fast, effective attacks with impressive knockback. He jumps well, recovers well, and has a number of projectiles at his disposal. And...he's quick. I don't know, there's something about Toon Link that just draws me to him. There's something about him that...flows like other characters haven't. In my opinion, he looks quite broken, but this is a Young Link vet speaking. He's like my previous favorite character, but...better.
So yes. He could've have a unique moveset, sure. But honestly, I think putting in two different versions of a character with the same moves and different style is better than putting in two different versions of the same character with different moves. It would just be odd.
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