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Old 01-30-2008, 12:01 PM   #1
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Is he even cel shaded?

Certainly doesn't look like it.
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Old 01-30-2008, 12:59 PM   #2
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To tell you the truth, I thought the same thing when after the end of this video where they zoomed in on him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeeIYr5wW78

I suppose he was modeled in a way so that he looks cel-shaded from far away.
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Old 01-31-2008, 10:31 AM   #3
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Yeah, maybe he isn't cel shaded (and he isn't) because Sakurai wanted you to be able to see more detail at a distance, since most of the time while fighting, characters are kind of far away from the camera so to speak. I don't know, that's a crappy excuse. Has anyone thought that maybe one of his costumes is cel shaded? Perhaps those have been shown already and I just don't know about it.
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Old 01-31-2008, 12:21 PM   #4
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Don't they need a special game engine to do cell shading? If so that would really be a bit much for one character. I think he looks awesome, and fits in perfectly, he looks cartoony but with that dark tinge that most the characters now have. If he was cell shaded he would look kinda silly to be honest.
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Old 01-31-2008, 12:44 PM   #5
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No, Poke Floats is cel-shaded. However, Toon Link is not cel-shaded. Why? Who knows, but looking at the roster, we can see characters were not a top priority for Sakurai.

No offense, but giving Toon Link, the "human" graphics over the cel-shading, makes his face just unnaturally weird. I mean, the cel-shading was what WW Link had that made him amazing looking, even though he has a weird shaped face and head. Turning that into "normal" graphics makes him just an awkward faced kid going through puberty.
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Old 01-31-2008, 01:19 PM   #6
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I don't reply much on things but actually he is cel-shaded but in another way we are used to it this type of cel-shading is pretty popular in allot of game's and i think Sakurai went this way to make him fit in a little bit more although. I can't be 100% certain of this yet. anyway i would have liked normal cel-shading style like WW but it would look a bit goofy in Brawl so I'm pretty pleased with him how he is now
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Old 01-31-2008, 02:28 PM   #7
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Don't they need a special game engine to do cell shading? If so that would really be a bit much for one character. I think he looks awesome, and fits in perfectly, he looks cartoony but with that dark tinge that most the characters now have. If he was cell shaded he would look kinda silly to be honest.
How can people say this? It's a video game for crying out loud. What, he doesn't look silly without cel-shading, but then with it, he would? That's how his character was designed. It was always supposed to be like a cartoon. That's why the art is drawn like a 2D cartoon, and they attempted to keep that style with cel-shading. How is that more silly than G&W being flat? Is that silly? Well, probably, but if you don't like silly, you probably should be warned... Smash Brothers is chock-full.

Well, don't mean to jump all over you, but I just can't see how people don't want diversity. Part of the fun for me is seeing totally different characters interacting with each other. That's what crossovers are there for IMO. (Why does TOON link have realistic textures and the same hair texture as TP Link, if he's supposed to be a... you know, TOON?? Why even call him TOON at all?)

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I don't reply much on things but actually he is cel-shaded but in another way we are used to it this type of cel-shading is pretty popular in allot of game's and i think Sakurai went this way to make him fit in a little bit more although. I can't be 100% certain of this yet. anyway i would have liked normal cel-shading style like WW but it would look a bit goofy in Brawl so I'm pretty pleased with him how he is now
There again! Why? Why would it look goofy?? I can't understand it. Because it's different? Different=goofy? I think it would be highly interesting, not to mention aesthetically pleasing. Perhaps a round ball named Kirby is too goofy to be in the same game as Snake... I don't know, I'm baffled by how many people are thinking this way.

I agree with Kabyk-Greenmyst... thanks for your reason.
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Old 01-31-2008, 02:52 PM   #8
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How can people say this? It's a video game for crying out loud. What, he doesn't look silly without cel-shading, but then with it, he would? That's how his character was designed. It was always supposed to be like a cartoon. That's why the art is drawn like a 2D cartoon, and they attempted to keep that style with cel-shading. How is that more silly than G&W being flat? Is that silly? Well, probably, but if you don't like silly, you probably should be warned... Smash Brothers is chock-full.

Well, don't mean to jump all over you, but I just can't see how people don't want diversity. Part of the fun for me is seeing totally different characters interacting with each other. That's what crossovers are there for IMO. (Why does TOON link have realistic textures and the same hair texture as TP Link, if he's supposed to be a... you know, TOON?? Why even call him TOON at all?)



There again! Why? Why would it look goofy?? I can't understand it. Because it's different? Different=goofy? I think it would be highly interesting, not to mention aesthetically pleasing. Perhaps a round ball named Kirby is too goofy to be in the same game as Snake... I don't know, I'm baffled by how many people are thinking this way.

I agree with Kabyk-Greenmyst... thanks for your reason.

Yeah, because there are so many bright colourful characters in the game aren't there? They don't look dark or mature at all do they? Yeah, a cell shaded bright happy Link would fit in there tons better than a slightly darker more realistic but still perfectly recognisable Toon Link won't he? God, be thankful he's in at all, he looks awesome, his stage looks awesome, his weapons look straight from the game. Seriously just stop *****ing...
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Old 01-31-2008, 06:31 PM   #9
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I think he looks fine without it. He's still styled toonishly after all.
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Old 02-02-2008, 12:31 AM   #10
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he\'s not some of the effects are but he\'s not.
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He's got the same character model, with the swoopy hair and whatnot, and it still looks a bit cel shaded-esque, but he's not. I really like the way they did it.
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I really like the way he is, you can hardly notice he's not Cel-Shaded.
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Old 02-02-2008, 01:14 AM   #13
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Yeah it's really weird, from the usual view it really looks like he's cel shaded, but up close he looks just like any other character except for with the cartoon look.

I guess that was Sakurai's way of fitting him into the game.
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Old 02-02-2008, 01:26 AM   #14
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I think he would have looked bad with cel-shading in this game. He needed the texture.
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Old 02-02-2008, 06:03 PM   #15
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I actually like him better textured.
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