New Advanced Technique; Natural Selection.

Hai Im Fearless · Mar 12, 2008

Ok here it is. I'll try my best to explain it.

The first thing you should do it go near an edge. Get the distance from it so that if you throw a pikmin (with a forward smash *this note is important*) it will fly off the edge, UNLESS IT IS PURPLE.

Keep forward smashing them off until all of your pikmin are purple.

Then proceed to keep throwing and picking until you have 6 purple pikmin.

You can obviously tell the advantages to having 6 purple pikmin, for when you throw them, they actually have knockback!

NATURAL PIKMIN SELECTION!

Thoughts? Questions?

Servers back up yet? =/

Edg · Mar 12, 2008

I think this might be part of the reason why olimar will be banned from competitive play

Oceanborn · Mar 12, 2008

Am I missing something or did you just call 'throwing Pikmin off a ledge, plucking them and throwing them out again until you get the right colors in your party' a technique?

NC-Echo · Mar 12, 2008

Olimar will not be banned. He can be countered if you can keep him pressured.

deepseadiva · Mar 12, 2008

I really don't see where someone will have the time to due the said technique. And then there's the issue of constantly reordering them so you're not throwing the purple ones over again...

And Olimar is NOT going to be banned from ANYTHING. That's just a rumor people started to make us feel special. I mean come on, Fox never got a ban.

superninja · Mar 12, 2008

How are you ever going to find time to do this in a match? It seems like it could take anywhere from 5-15 seconds...

The true_blade · Mar 12, 2008

ya 2 slow to due otherwise it would be good

TrueRedemption · Mar 12, 2008

Personally, I hate having purple pikmin, apart from all the well stated obvious flaws everyone else has pointed out. EDG, quit being a hater and just put in the time to learn how to fight Olimar, Echo has it correct as normal.

-True

the656 · Mar 12, 2008

I rather not have purple pikmin since they arent good for grabbing

Zori · Mar 12, 2008

your opponent would **** you by the time this was done.

Replacement100 · Mar 12, 2008

This 'technique' has been thought up by countless others, so it's nothing new.
It's also impractical.

Mercury · Mar 12, 2008

i mourn your stupidity sir.

snowbonez · Mar 12, 2008

Yea, let me see you grab and smash, moron.

Ultimatum479 · Mar 12, 2008

Different Pikmin are good in different scenarios (except Blues, which just suck) but Purple are generally useful as edgeguarders, which means you need to pluck them during battle rather than while your opponent's dead, which would be the only time you'd be able to do something this slow.

IllidR · Mar 12, 2008

This is just an awful idea. Besides it being just a waste of time and feasibly not possible if you're playing someone who knows how to attack, why would you want to have all Purple Pikmin anyway? Sure, you get the hit properties on your throws and you get stronger attacks with them, but look at all the things you're losing. You're losing tons of smash range, killing your grab range, and destroying any chance of comboing well. All of one thing isn't necessarily a good thing.

nyhustler208 · Mar 12, 2008

NC-Echo said:
Olimar will not be banned. He can be countered if you can keep him pressured.

agrees with echo pressure on olimar is all u need to defeat him

fire_wulf · Mar 12, 2008

Ultimatum479 said:
Different Pikmin are good in different scenarios (except Blues, which just suck)

Blue Pikmin suck? Maybe you could help me out with this... the Pikmin that is the best at grabbing the the third best for damage sucks... How about you check out Echo's guide and stats before you go ahead and post something like this.

Ultimatum479 · Mar 12, 2008

*shrug* If you like them in your playing style, that's fine, but they suck for mine. They're not noticeable enough and they have too much health.

aeota · Mar 12, 2008

Find me a way to get only white pikmin and I'll be happy.

Kabuto Mushi · Mar 12, 2008

Hai Im Fearless said:
Ok here it is. I'll try my best to explain it.

The first thing you should do it go near an edge. Get the distance from it so that if you throw a pikmin (with a forward smash *this note is important*) it will fly off the edge, UNLESS IT IS PURPLE.

Keep forward smashing them off until all of your pikmin are purple.

Then proceed to keep throwing and picking until you have 6 purple pikmin.

You can obviously tell the advantages to having 6 purple pikmin, for when you throw them, they actually have knockback!

NATURAL PIKMIN SELECTION!

Thoughts? Questions?

Servers back up yet? =/

Uhm... This is a joke, right? :dizzy:

NC-Echo · Mar 12, 2008

aeota said:
Find me a way to get only white pikmin and I'll be happy.

I think you would have a hard time getting much of anything done with all white.

NoobasaurusRex · Mar 12, 2008

Star ko with utilt for the win? (/sarcasm)

Awesomethreat · Mar 12, 2008

So you don't like grabs, huh.

Sinstra · Mar 12, 2008

MenoUnderwater said:
I really don't see where someone will have the time to due the said technique. And then there's the issue of constantly reordering them so you're not throwing the purple ones over again...

/agree. When will you have time to do this when someones after you?
Specially as olimar everyone tries to keep up the pressure. or at least everyone i play.

Pyr0 · Mar 12, 2008

I do something like this (only 2 Purple Pikmin since they help a lot vs edge hogs)

But... its pretty much logical to select the pikmin you like (Yellow for spikes ^_^)

Stop ****ing around trying to name stuff PLEASE!

Nosferatu · Mar 13, 2008

Yeah
i figured this out the moment i started using him
but it seriously is pointless
even against two other people that are spending their time fighting each other
it was still so ridiculously difficult to pull off
that in the end, it just wasnt worth it

plus,
you are under the presumption that the purple ones are the best
but
they clearly arent
i would much rather have a slew of pikmin that can rack up heavy damage really quick
than have a deplore of knockback ones that are really only good when you are close enough to make them matter
and seeing as the others are thrown farther, and can execute your F-smash and throws more effectively
i see no reason to rack up on the purples

phanna · Mar 13, 2008

Awesome observation; thanks for sharing.

Naota21t · Mar 13, 2008

Purple pikmin aren't that sick to be honest. I'd rather have red, blue or even yellow pikmin. They all do good damage and knock back, PLUS they have better range, which owns when combined w/ shield grabbing.

Allergic To Ownage · Mar 13, 2008

You need all different colors of pikmin so you can have a good range of attacks. If you only have purple, then it kills all of your range, and any fighter could kill you easily, not that they would have already killed you while harvesting your purples.

DeuceBlade · Mar 13, 2008

All purple pikmin is not a good "technique" (lol) imo, because they turn olimar into a close range fighter instead of both.

rofl_jack · Mar 13, 2008

I came up with this idea as well, last night when I was figthing level nines.

I've found that despite its initial appeal, it does not work, seeing how, like most people have said, grabbing capabilities are nearly thrown out the window, and the time to do this takes forever. Also, once you have about 4 purple pikmin, its near impossible to pluck two more. I've tryed it constantly.

Hai Im Fearless · Mar 13, 2008

Kabuto Mushi said:
Uhm... This is a joke, right?

We have a winner

I came up with this idea as well, last night when I was figthing level nines.

I do something like this (only 2 Purple Pikmin since they help a lot vs edge hogs)

we have a failure

Some stupid comment taking either my first post seriously or edg's post seriously

OMEGA FAILURE

Pyr0 · Mar 14, 2008

Umm... first off don't try turn around the table.

You made a dumb thread, don't turn it on the replies.

and second, If you're going to quote something, quote the whole thing!

You were giving the idea of using this "technique" to get full Purple Pikmin Party, I however use it (yes USE it, as in actually playing the game like this) to get at least 1 (2 makes me feel safe) so when the opponent grabs the ledge, I can throw my Purple Pikmin (whistle it) and at least have a chance to recover.

You made a fool out of yourself, please stop while you can.

Ultimatum479 · Mar 14, 2008

Anyway, Fsmashing is too slow. If you wanna do this for some reason or another, stand somewhat near the ledge and keep plucking. The lighter ones will fall right off before they land.

Oceanborn · Mar 14, 2008

Ultimatum479, I'm curious to see how you play Olimar. You say Blue Pikmins suck and FSmashing is too slow. Those two things alone are some of the most (commonly) effective things Olimar has in the heat of battle. You should record us some videos.

Ultimatum479 · Mar 15, 2008

I meant Fsmashing is too slow for the technique he wanted to use to get all Purples, which is true in comparison to the method I suggested.

But hey, how about we just play instead?

I'll add your FC later today if I have time. I can play any weekday after 3 PM EST.

samsonites101 · Mar 16, 2008

The idea here is pretty useless but the point is when u throw the pikmen, the purple wont go far enough, and the others will fall off.. U are not just rearranging to only have purple. This would be the fastest way but is no where near fast enough.

Me14k · Mar 17, 2008

Purple Pikmin are overrated by scrubs.

Big whoop..they have knock back when thrown...throwing pikmin isnt important to begin with. A pikmin player should do one thing: Work the grab and follow up with aerials. Purple pkimin have crap grab range (Smash range also).

the only thing good about purple pikmin is that they are better for recovery, but that still doesn't justify having all purples, doing so would make oli struggle killing. Remember, oli overcomes his bad recovery by killing the other person first.

Arc2012 · Mar 17, 2008

If you really want to get all purple pikmin why would you waste your time throwing them off the edge. Just go up to the edge and then face away from it and start plucking. The ones you don't want will fall off and when you see a purple just move away. That seems faster and no reordering. But why would you want to?

Cheerio · Mar 17, 2008

Having many purple pikmin doesnt necessarily mean having the advantage

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