How do you fight Ike?

Trebor-Nella said:

1. What is your general opinion of Ike as a character?
2. What moves do you fear from Ike?
3. Which moves do not trouble you at all?
4. Which moves/techniques do you use against Ike to gain the advantage?
5. What specific edgeguards do you employ versus Ike?

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1. Ike is slow, but DK isn't super fast by any means. Throwing out attacks with no plan will get you punished HARD by Ike. He is great at baiting and punishing, but his mediocre recovery (airdodge + quick draw = fail) make him a just middle of the road character.

2. His A, A, A combo is great for getting him space. Not sure if I "fear" it, but it can be annoying. Out of all his moves, I fear undiminished F-tilts. Any f-tilts that outrange DK are scary for me. His sliding up-smash catches me off guard a few times as well. Lastly, the other attack I fear is his Eruption. Good Ike's can 'abuse' that super armor, and DKs love to give an aerial chase with up-air or b-air.

3. His d-smash seems incredibly low range so I don't worry about that move. Though it owns when it hits, I don't fear that F-smash either. Also, I don't fear the over-b because getting in DK's face is a bad idea. If DK blocks the over-b, he can get a quick headbutt off. If not, it is still free damage. If they use the over-b as an approach, then I usually kill Ike with my superior speed. Also, DK's down-b stops the quick draw approach.

4. Getting in Ike's face is my key. Ike outranges me, but DK is faster and not that much weaker. I abuse my speed. Also, I think stage spiking works well, but I have to be quick so I'm not aetherspiked. Really, the key to beating Ike is using DK's speed and wait to get him off the edge (I'll go in depth next) or to save my smash attacks for kill range. I get a lot of Ike kills with a spot dodge then d-smash or f-smash.

5. Ike is pretty easy to edgeguard. If they use quick draw, I'll either jump out and take the attack or just air dodge it. Also, the b-air is a great edgeguard. The game changes when he needs to use Aether, because of DK's awful vertical recovery I just avoid edgeguarding.

All in all, Ike can be a tough matchup for a few reasons. But, if DK abuses his superior speed he can come out on top. DK is powerful and his range isn't that much worse then Ike's. For Ike I'd do a few things to help swing the battle in my favor.

1. Watch out for the Fully Charge Punch. It has super armor.
2. Abuse your range. DK's speed will dominate you when up-close.
3. Don't get predictable with Eruption, but it is a great way to avoid an aerial chase.
4. DK's down-b destroys most of your approach game.
5. Don't underestimate DK's range our power.

I hope this helps. Leave me a post if you need clarification.

pffh if this can be posted on every board why doesn't everyone just go ahead and spam threads like this for every character?

At least it would be more fair than seeing this thread everywhere and only one character gaing benefits.

1. Ike is a decent character with some good moves but a weak approach. His greatest style is a defensive one, but it makes him weak against every half-decent camper in the game. I would say top of mid-tier.

2. Fair, jabs, bair, upsmash and ftilt.

3. Anything not in #2

4. Jump-canceled upB approach, ftilt, bairs, downB, reverse uptilt, cargo techs, dsmash, fsmash and neutral B, more as a mindgame than a finisher.

5. Stopping QD recovery is well known, so DK focuses on bair gimping before Ike gets close enough to Aether. DK can jump, ff and bair so quickly that Ike cannot hit with the fair unless he can predict when DK will initiate. Also, DK must predict if Ike will fair or air dodge. If he's right, he takes a stock. If he mispredicts, he can still return to the stage easily.

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Nokonoko said:

… Doing so can lead to reciprocal information, however. Isn’t it better to promote a sense of community? :D

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Nope, Ike is the ****ing enemy.

Ike is the man though. I mean he swings his sword slow and doesn't afraid of anything.

1. he fights for his friends
2. that one move with the sword
3. the other one with the sword
4. hit him till he dies, don't get hit
5. ****

I spot dodge and grab and combo off the grab and that usually works against the Ikes that spam their smashes

random letters guy, don't post serious things in here, hes trying to learn how to play against dks, he doesn't even hide it well, post something extremely vague or completely wrong

Yeah. Community my ***.

So, in that case...

1) Easiest matchup in the game, low tier character at best
2) His over-b recovery, its so hard to gimp, and makes ledge guarding a nightmare
3) his aaa jab combo. It has so much lag afterwards, it leaves him wide open.
4) I like to spam dairs. Its really comboable, and we can usually get three-six of them off at low percents before the Ike can get out. Can you say wobble-esque?
5) I like to spam my jab combo as an edguard. The first hit spikes if you sweetspot it.

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1. What is your general opinion of Ike as a character?
Some of my friends seem to think he's overpowered, i havent really fought him enough to go that far. i basically think he's a slower, stronger, less girly version of Marth. He's better than Marth in my opinion.


2. What moves do you fear from Ike?
basically the counter special is the only think i can really think of. again, i dont play against him as much, but he needs to get close to you in order to attack, and i think close up DK probably has a bit of the edge. I like to throw and smash A LOT and i also like the midar headbut and meteor smashes. a good ike user can counter all of that so i guess it really comes to timing well enough to fake him out. or just throw him. (unless he can counter that too)

3. Which moves do not trouble you at all?
nothing i can really think of; i guess cause they dont trouble me

4. Which moves/techniques do you use against Ike to gain the advantage?
pretty much answered that in nuber 2

5. What specific edgeguards do you employ versus Ike?
basically the same i use against anyone else.. throw/smash them off the edge and if they come back i usually try to meteor smash them down with the side + A in midair

itsthebigfoot said:

1. he fights for his friends
2. that one move with the sword
3. the other one with the sword
4. hit him till he dies, don't get hit
5. ****

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LOL.......

diddyk0ng

throw bananas or spamm it.. it helps and get you a lot of opening.. after that just start comboing

wrong thread sorry

ika has the grand viper!!!

that is why i fear him

How do I fight Ike?
I try going for his friends first.

1. What is your general opinion of Ike as a character?
Slow and strong but easy to deal with. Dk is faster so can easily punish Ike. Ike's recovery is awful.

2. What moves do you fear from Ike?
Watch out for his UpSmash and Fair, they both have greatrange. His back air is quick so if he turns around be careful with your approach. Ike's AAA combo also comes out quick. But none of them are really fear inducing.

3. Which moves do not trouble you at all?
Everything not mentioned from #2

4. Which moves/techniques do you use against Ike to gain the advantage?
Foward B when he does one of his laggier attack and whiffs it. Grab throw him off stag. Bair to approach. Walk block an attack then f-smash or something.

5. What specific edgeguards do you employ versus Ike? Jump in front of his Foward B. Bair if hes under you.