1HKO's Controller Port Guide
OK, how should I put this...
remember that match that you almost one, if you put your controller in a different port it could have made the difference between almost winning and winning.
Random Events Decided by Controller Port
Sakurai has had to (figuratively) leap through hoops to keep us content with this game and he knew that certain things would have to be decided randomly such as who gets grabbed when two players grab at the same time, or who will win after a suicide throw. Those examples work like this:
In both cases the P1 slot is most valued.
1)If you are grabbing at the same time the player with the lower player slot (P1) will grab the other player.
2)If you are Bowser and you klaw suicide, lower player slot (P1) and you win, higher player slot (P4) and you sudden death.
"If you're in Sudden Death, Klawiciding again will cause a 2nd Sudden Death. Klawiciding during that one will win Bowser the match regardless of controller port.
"If you're in Sudden Death, Klawiciding again will cause a 2nd Sudden Death. Klawiciding during that one will win Bowser the match regardless of controller port."-Yuna
Jewdo Section
Thank you so much Jewdo for all of this incredible info BTW.
"I tested the various suicides for controller port advantages. Results are as follows:
Kirby/DeDeDe - no controller port advantage. Both players always die simultaneously. If this is done in Sudden Death, the Inhale's victim is counted as the loser.
Wario/DK - no controller port advantage. Wario/DK always dies first.
Bowser - If Bowser is P1 and victim is P2, Bowser wins. If Bowser is P2 and victim is P1, Sudden Death.
Ganondorf - If Ganon is P1 and victim is P2, Sudden Death. If Ganon is P2 and victim is P1, Ganon loses."(This little bit about Gannon has later been taken back and thus is not true)
"Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyari View Post
This is still pretty ridiculous, but I was thinking about the 2v2 port imbalance and I got to thinking: wouldn't the best way to solve it be to force one team to be P1+P4 and the other team be P2+P3? This splits up the advantages uniquely and, IMO, more evenly than having both teams touch or having alternating ports.
I drew out a list of team match-ups and the advantages given to either side. It's actually... kinda tough to say decisively which match-up has the best balance. It comes down to how exploitable each advantage is relative to the others and which set of advantages best balances the exploits between two teams. I'll leave that up to each community member to decide.
Grab Priority advantage - if two players grab simultaneously, lower # wins.
Transform advantage - if two players transform at the same time, lower # transforms first.
Suicide advantage - one player remains from each team with one stock. If the player with the lower# port suicides his opponent as Bowser, his team wins (or, in Ganon's case, does not lose).
FSA advantage - what the first post is about.
[=== P1+P2 vs. P3+P4 ===]
*Team 1*
absolute Grab Priority (both)
absolute Transform advantage (both)
absolute Suicide advantage (both)
*Team 2*
absolute FSA advantage (both)
[=== P1+P3 vs. P2+P4 ===]
*Team 1*
P1 has absolute Grab Priority, Transform, and Suicide advantage
P3 has FSA when grabbing P2, Grab Priority/Transform/Suicide over P4
*Team 2*
P4 has absolute FSA advantage
P2 has FSA when grabbing P1, Grab Priority/Transform/Suicide over P3
[=== P1+P4 vs. P2+P3 ===]
*Team 1*
P1 has absolute Grab Priority, Transform, and Suicide advantage
P4 has absolute FSA advantage
*Team 2*
P2 and P3 have FSA over P1, Grab/Transform/Suicide over P4"
-Jewdo
Other Events Decided by Controller Port
I have no honest explanation of what was going through Sakurai's head when he made these, so I will just explain what they are.
x)"event decided"(characters it applies to)
1)Faux Super Armor(Snake,Pit,Link,TL,Diddy) in singles, (ALL) in doubles
2)Transformation Animations(Sheik/Zelda,PT,Samus/Zamus)
Explanations
1)Faux Super Armor occurs when a player is grabbing another player and status effect of any kind (this includes explosives) hits both of them. If the player who is in a grab (grabbing or being grabbed has no difference) has a higher player slot (P4) then he will take the damage regularly but not be affected by knock back. Diddy is in the list because he can be hit once during his up-b by sonic then dash grabbed and the barrel won't hit him; pretty useless IMHO.
2)Transformations are those moves that allow you to "transform" between two or more characters and are only currently accessible by two character slots (Sheik/Zelda, PT). If two characters enter the animation at the same time, for a reason unknown to me the character with the lower player slot (P1) will transform first.
Summary
In essence it is better to have a lower player slot in a singles match unless:
a)you are playing a snake who likes to cook grenades in his shield.
b)you want to grab that pesky link or TL, whack em a couple of times, and not worry about their bomb.
c)you want to gimp snakes recovery while he is holding a grenade.
d)you play as pit and like doing loop d-loop arrows without anything interfering (not a very good reason if you ask me)
What Decides who gets what Player Slot
Many have asked what they could do to determine what player slot an individual could get and this section is where all the answers posed to the problem will go.
1)Rock/Paper/Scissors if two people want the same slot.
2)Lower skilled player gets whatever slot he wants.
3)Whoever gets there first
4)(my personal answer) do it like who picks the stage and make the loser of the first match have a choice between the options of a counterpick and the slot they want.
Stage Position
This is completely random now.
Credits
Jewdo
Sonic the Hedgedawg
tsl/Elec Man EXE
Yuna
Amazing Ampharos
HOPE THIS HELPED
Controller Port Guide
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