Ulevo
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With G&W, I think you should add that his Up-B and U-air in specific can launch MK into freefall. Also if I recall, I've beaten the Tornado with the F-smash.
Great job so far.
Great job so far.
Ulevo
Smash Master
I plan to add that later. I also want to expand on the list with attacks that can beat the Tornado from below Meta Knight, but I can't test that reliably at the moment.
Exia 00
Smash Champion
True. Rather than complaining, taking action is the smartest thing to do.
Yaya
Smash Champion
I believe Ivysaur's dash attack breaks through the whorenado.
Yes, I am aware that the list is not complete, I'm saying that just in case the Thread Creator did not know.
Yes, I am aware that the list is not complete, I'm saying that just in case the Thread Creator did not know.
kupo15
Smash Hero
I am sorry to say but there already is a thread about this. Just throwing that out there
EDIT: http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=161939
EDIT: http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=161939
BBQ°
Smash Champion
This is good. I was wondering what attacks beat out MK's tornado so thank you.
mers
Smash Ace
Ooh perfect this is most nifty.
I can feel the game starting to balance.
I can feel the game starting to balance.
Ulevo
Smash Master
If you had paid attention to what I mentioned in the opening post, you would have known I already knew about that thread. To my knowledge, he hasn't been on the boards in weeks or even months, and is not interested in updating the thread with the information it lacks.
Gindler
Smash Champion
Ha, Falcon Punch. Is there anything that move can't break?
Another Falcon Punch....
Another Falcon Punch....
For PT
Squirtle- Fsmash. Requires some degree of timing though.
Fair- I *think* this works on the bottomish part of the tornado. Not 100% on that though.
Usmash- From underneath.
Forward B- ***
Dair Above.
Ivysaur- Forward B. I'm pretty sure this one works.
Dash atack- Timed right.
Fsmash- Best option for knocking him out of it.
Jab-
Dair- From above.
Usmash- From below.
I'll try testing out the Dtilt/Ftilt/Fair/Bair
Zamus-
Armor piece throw.
Forward B-
Grab- (With MK on ground)
Dair- Above
I'll try to check Fsmash and a few other moves when I get on brawl.
Squirtle- Fsmash. Requires some degree of timing though.
Fair- I *think* this works on the bottomish part of the tornado. Not 100% on that though.
Usmash- From underneath.
Forward B- ***
Dair Above.
Ivysaur- Forward B. I'm pretty sure this one works.
Dash atack- Timed right.
Fsmash- Best option for knocking him out of it.
Jab-
Dair- From above.
Usmash- From below.
I'll try testing out the Dtilt/Ftilt/Fair/Bair
Zamus-
Armor piece throw.
Forward B-
Grab- (With MK on ground)
Dair- Above
I'll try to check Fsmash and a few other moves when I get on brawl.
cutter
Smash Champion
Thank god for something like this. I'm so sick and tired of people *****ing about the tornado.
CO18
Smash Hero
You need to add Dedede's inhale and Up tilt. Up tilt is probably the best move for tornado anyway so it definitley needs to be up there being a 3 star imo.
It out prioritizes nado at a certain point in the air. Specifically when they're below you with nado and you inhale them on your way down.
I would rate it a 2 star for how much I use it.
And Jet hammer should definitley be a 1 star.
Fsmash should be 2.
Just throwing it out there.
It out prioritizes nado at a certain point in the air. Specifically when they're below you with nado and you inhale them on your way down.
I would rate it a 2 star for how much I use it.
And Jet hammer should definitley be a 1 star.
Fsmash should be 2.
Just throwing it out there.
kupo15
Smash Hero
hmm... I read that about 3 times to make sure you didnt mention that and I had to reread it twice since you mentioned it and idk how I missed it. I swore it wasnt there when I posted but idk. I blame the red! haha Was just trying to help you not waste your time by doing something already researched.
nightSN
Smash Ace
is the whorado so broken that it needs a thread for itself? wow. LOL
Be sure to add both variations of Diddy's across B.
The kung fu kick variation will cancel out the tornado, whilst the air grab version has invincibility frames during the beginning of the animation, therefore allowing you to grab Meta out of his Tornado.
Whatever you decide to rate them as, I wouldn't say either of them are 3 star, even though they are relatively easy to do.
The kung fu kick variation will cancel out the tornado, whilst the air grab version has invincibility frames during the beginning of the animation, therefore allowing you to grab Meta out of his Tornado.
Whatever you decide to rate them as, I wouldn't say either of them are 3 star, even though they are relatively easy to do.
Terrydactyl
Smash Rookie
Oh Jesus, I am playing in a tournament tomorrow and I hope I play an MK spammer.
Mach Tornado straight into an AFRICA PAUNCH is going to be incredible.
Mach Tornado straight into an AFRICA PAUNCH is going to be incredible.
Snail
Smash Lord
Olimar can grab MK out of his ground tornado, and fastfalled nairs from above work too.
UltiMario
Out of Obscurity
This is the Reason I use the Side-B too. There arent any lists on what Outprioritises that <.<
*coughprettymuchonlyprojectilesordijointedhiboxeswhichnoteveryonehasanditsalsolessexpectedsoitmakesabetteroutprioritisingmoveIMOcough*
*coughprettymuchonlyprojectilesordijointedhiboxeswhichnoteveryonehasanditsalsolessexpectedsoitmakesabetteroutprioritisingmoveIMOcough*
Grab can get him when he's in the air, too. He just can't be too far above her. I think I've also heard that dsmash works.
Bowser King
Have It Your Way
Bowser flame **
Doggalina
Smash Lord
The most useful of these moves are the ones marked T. Good luck getting a MK to come at you from the side.
EDIT: And Kirby's rock goes through (but doesn't break) the tornado from above.
EDIT: And Kirby's rock goes through (but doesn't break) the tornado from above.
Gindler
Smash Champion
Yoshi...
Egg Lay **
Pivot grab ** imho
Nair, don't think stars really matter as it's a T but probably *** if needed
DownB **? T for sure.
standing grab *, ha no one does this
dash grab * (see above)
Egg throw ** (mine usually break but some people can throw it right into the top of the nado)
Dair **T
Usmash ** (is there an upside down T cause this works best from below)
Egg roll *T lolz (don't quote me on that, haven't done grounded to grounded combat with those)
Then again I don't know nearly as much about his as say Mmac, once he gets in here it'll all be cleared up.
Egg Lay **
Pivot grab ** imho
Nair, don't think stars really matter as it's a T but probably *** if needed
DownB **? T for sure.
standing grab *, ha no one does this
dash grab * (see above)
Egg throw ** (mine usually break but some people can throw it right into the top of the nado)
Dair **T
Usmash ** (is there an upside down T cause this works best from below)
Egg roll *T lolz (don't quote me on that, haven't done grounded to grounded combat with those)
Then again I don't know nearly as much about his as say Mmac, once he gets in here it'll all be cleared up.
Jiangjunizzy
Smash Lord
should do one of these lists for mrgw's bair
Damax
Smash Lord
Sonic can break the tornado using is homing attack if he is above it. his down b can break glide (no timing or spacing) or tornado (spacing required like homing attack) (the down b must be used while in the air for both to work.)
lain
Smash Master
G&W
FTilt***
DSmash***
USmash*
Dash Attack*** <--- Probably your best bet.
Dair*T
Bair*** <--- False. Doesn't work at all.
Neutral B**T
Up B*/** <--- Only sends you into it. Fun.
FTilt***
DSmash***
USmash*
Dash Attack*** <--- Probably your best bet.
Dair*T
Bair*** <--- False. Doesn't work at all.
Neutral B**T
Up B*/** <--- Only sends you into it. Fun.
i1337
Smash Ace
Dedede: dtilt (best), utilt, ftilt, fsmash, bair
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Olimar's fair shouldn't go through the tornado. Most every attack from above (such as Olimar's dair) will hit through the tornado. I don't think you should include those. >_>
His grab can only grab the tornado if it's touching the ground. Otherwise it's useless.
His grab can only grab the tornado if it's touching the ground. Otherwise it's useless.
Pyronic_Star
Smash Champion
olimars fair can go through it, u have to ff it through the middle
Mmac
Smash Lord
On Yoshi:
- Standing, Dash, and Pivot Grabs all beat the tornado easily
- Fsmash and Usmash beats it if timed
- Egg's Beat it easily
- Dair, Nair, DownB, and even a Falling SideB can beat it from the top
- Ground DownB works well if timed correctly.
- Neutral B is pretty much the same as a grab
- SideB plows straight through a Ground tornado sometimes, but it's just..... Random.....
Edit: Dsmash works if he is on a platform above MetaKnight and he rises to Yoshi
- Standing, Dash, and Pivot Grabs all beat the tornado easily
- Fsmash and Usmash beats it if timed
- Egg's Beat it easily
- Dair, Nair, DownB, and even a Falling SideB can beat it from the top
- Ground DownB works well if timed correctly.
- Neutral B is pretty much the same as a grab
- SideB plows straight through a Ground tornado sometimes, but it's just..... Random.....
Edit: Dsmash works if he is on a platform above MetaKnight and he rises to Yoshi
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