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Renaming Ivysaurs new tether technique

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Ever since I released the video of Ivysaurs instant tether I have got great reviews both off and on the PT boards in regards to the application but the name itself causes some debate.

Whether or not I was the 1st to discover this or the application to it I decided I'd let the PT Boards decide the name of it since it is essentially everyones technique.

Incase you dont know what Im talking about here is the thread:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=198927
and here is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVSmzY_VRrw


lol on a side note I remember when shellshifting was called juke-ing.


So The current names being put forward are:
- Instant thether
- Vinewhip Catapault.
- Vine Leap
- Tether Stall
At this point its open to suggestion and I know it seems a little strange argueing about the name but lets get it finalised so we can put it into the Ivysaur AT section.
 
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They both sound stupid to be honest. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm *thinks*
 
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Itburns said:
lol on a side note I remember when shellshifting was called juke-ing.
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Same! Ah, the joys of lurking.

I wonder where juke went...

Anyway. Names. They should be relevent to the specific thing ivysaur is doing.

Using up B shortly after moving off the stage results in shooting up vertically or at an angle depending on your timing. You stall up there long enough to give you more time to edghog recoveries such as dolphin slash. I think that this manouvre should be called Tether Stalling, because thats exactly what you are doing.

Cancelling the tether into other moves or actions (such as simply landing on a higher platform) should be called tether cancelling. The reasoning is the same to the first.

Eg: Ivysaur can use a Tether Cancelled dair to spike ROB, or a Tether Stall to avoid his U-air whilst still hogging the edge.

seems pretty practical to me..
 
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It's not a tether stall. You don't stall with it....
 
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Not in the traditional, competitive sense.

You are stalling in the air. It's just a better, shorter alternative to "using the tether to pop up in the air for a little while".

Some definitions of stall:

To halt motion or progress
To come to a standstill:
To lose forward flying speed, causing a stall.
stalling - a tactic used to mislead or delay

All of these apply. Just because its not stalling in the game breaking sense it does not mean that it is not a stall. a halt in momentum.
 
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Tether stall seems pretty accurate,

it also goes with the ability to retether onto the ledge for stall perpasses.

i still feel the quickness to it is a factor... because man does the tether come out instantly

added 2 names to the 1st post
 
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But you aren't delaying the tether itself, so delayed tether doesn't sound right. delayed....something.

i like stall because it says exactly what you're doing. it would be nice if the quickness was a factor, i agree. instant tether stall? it's more accurate than instant tether because the quick stall is the interesting bit, not the quick tether.

hm.

thoughts?

edit: i think a cool name should be on the cards as well. how about...

Instant Edge Pwn
Super Tether Jump
Vine Hogging

lols.
 
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Tether Guarding?? Tether is always instant anyway, you don't necessarily catapult yourself into the air, nor leap. Tether Stall is okay.

Tether Guarding is accurate in that you are edgeguarding and relying on the tether to do it, either by simply tethering as the opponent approaches, tethering and releasing below the stage to bair someone, or tethering and jumping at the apex to reach someone above.

as long as the name isn't stupid, i won't care

"hey man work on your tether guarding."

"dude you totally screwed up the tether guard there, ROFL"

abbreviated to tg. i guess you could put an instant in there to itg, instant tether guard, to emphasize the point that you can edgeguard them instantly by tethering before they grab the ledge or something.
 
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to me vine hogging is actually pretty cool.

same as tether guarding.... achk, we need one more person to decide for us
 
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it's just a ****ing up-b, why does everything have to have a name
 
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Okay yeah I saw this and go oh no. Come up with a practical name.

Like I've had to listen to how DR is the stupidest name ever. I didn't make it. But since I'm one of te best at it I have to listen to it.

So how about what it is. An auto tether. Technically it doesn't need a name.
 
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Typh said:
it's just a ****ing up-b, why does everything have to have a name
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that's how i feel, but i put in my suggestion hoping they'd pick it

since tether guarding is what i'd call an normal tether gimp anyway
 
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Typh said:
it's just a ****ing up-b, why does everything have to have a name
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And shilllshifting is simply pivoting back and forth, the application behind the technique warrants a name.

You may just see it as an up+b, thats fine.. maybe you dont understand the full concept of it.

besides, having a name gives it the ability to be accurately refferenced... we cant always be saying.. run off the stage up then nair, up+b again.
 
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^ This.

You use the tether for a lot of things. If we call them all the same thing then we'll have to constantly make it clear which one we are talking about. Popping up above the stage with the tether is different to cancelling it into an attack.
 
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simple Tether Guard, tg where you latch before the opponent can grab it and thus dies.

TG (canceled i guess idk) nair spike

TG DJ bair

etc

simple
 
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Typh said:
it's just a ****ing up-b, why does everything have to have a name
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Typh wins.

But really, I know the Olimar's already have a name for this, so I think we should just adapt whatever name they have as ours, as well. "Universal language."
 
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Who the HELL DO YOU THINK I AM!?

My brother is dead! He's no longer here!



However... on my back... in my heart... HE LIVES ON!

HITTING BRAWLERS ALIKE! PIERCING THEIR HEARTS WITH MY VINE WHIP

Even in a grave, I can tether on.

And If I can KO, it's my VICTORY!

I'm Ivysaur. Not my brother, Venusaur.

I AM MYSELF! IVYSAUR THE INSTANT TETHER!!

GIGAAAAAAAAAAA














IVYSAURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR





















TETHERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

 
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I've been meaning to say this for a while now. In regards to the announcement of the actual technique:

Pretty cool, but the Link boards have known about this for ages.

10parodys
 
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Mangme: :D :D

Retro: This is a little bit more indepth than the simple release->retether that other character boards use. The bit where ivysaur shoots vertically into the air and sits there for a moment is enough to differentiate it. But the concept is similar, yesh.

Yes I said yesh.

:)
 
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I know. I believe the Olimar's referenced this exact thing when we talked to them about the match-up (Their thread)?

I believe they called it tether canceling or something similar.
 
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THIS IS ITBURNS ON IRLS ACCCOUNT.


This maybe similar to other characters but as Tcranter said the application in regards to ivysaur is different. This thread isnt to discuss the origin or authenticity of the technique its about finding a suitable name for the application.

I wanted to the boards to have an input the name because it is essentially for everyone to use... if you dont want to use it thats fine... that doesnt devalue its worth.

my personal prefference is Vinehogging... sounds dope
 
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I think vine gaurd(ing) or vine hog(ging) work. I could honestly care less. Thanks a bunch for the work on this tech though.
 
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i understand the concept of it, i use it pretty much every time i want to edgeguard, and just FYI i think shellshifting is a stupid name also
 
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Ok so from looking over the thread I see the name that has come up more than twice is:

Vinehogging,

Can someone find the name refferenced by the olimar boards so we can finalise on it?
 
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how about Instant Tether because that's what it actually is

vinehogging is an ambiguous and confusing term to someone that doesnt know what it is

it doesnt have to be used for edgehogging

you can edgehog with a vine WITHOUT this technique

like i said it's ambiguous and stupid.
 
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Typh said:
how about Instant Tether because that's what it actually is

vinehogging is an ambiguous and confusing term to someone that doesnt know what it is

it doesnt have to be used for edgehogging

you can edgehog with a vine WITHOUT this technique

like i said it's ambiguous and stupid.
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Agree*


Just Instant Tether.
And Instant Tether Cancel.

Keep it simple stupid, know what I mean?
 
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