SBR Weekly character Discussion: Ike

He's manly.

He fights for his friends.

that's not a sword. it's an oar.

I've discovered that Ike is ridiculously fun. And his Fair is soooo awesome.

Ike is not manly, drop that argument OS. However, man is he fun to play when you're flat out better than someone, you will dominate them.

He's also fun in Brawl+.

Agreed. I vote for Ike in Brawl+.

Awww, I made a really funny hint and I went to post it... only to realize that Overswarm already made one

Meh, I'll just adjust the hint for next week instead :D

SamuraiPanda said:

Awww, I made a really funny hint and I went to post it... only to realize that Overswarm already made one

Meh, I'll just adjust the hint for next week instead :D

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My hint is amazing.


Azen gets 10 million internets for the Miyamoto Musashi reference.




Ike is one of the most fun characters to play in the game, for me.... but unfortunately he doesn't really live up to the challenge at high level play. His most common damage dealer, literally, is roll to A-A-A combo in most games I play with Infern.

Ike, despite his easily gimped recovery, has a pretty good edgeguarding game. If you can guess what your opponent is doing, one dair or bair can finish them off.

In fact, if you can guess what your opponent is doing Ike can pretty much beast them. F-tilt or f-smash on the ground are awesome KO moves, Ike's u-air is amazing, Ike's dair is amazing, and his nair has no lag and thus can combo easily into his jab combo.

If Ike couldn't be gimped so easily he'd have a much better shot... but it is rare that Ike isn't gimped at least once in a set. You'd think this would make him better in teams, but he gets gimped just as bad (if not worse) there. Ike does fantastic on stages like Norfair, Yoshi's Island (Pipes), Delfino, and any other stage with unique ledges/boundries. Many of his matchups that are incredibly one-sided become much more in favor of Ike in these situations. It's amazing how poorly people generally play against Ike; their game almost always revolves solely around gimping him. When you take that out of the equation with these different stages, it becomes a very unique matchup that is difficult to adapt to.

Ike is a horrible, horrible main. You are almost guaranteed to lose on the neutral if your opponent is good and has a decent matchup against you because every time you leave the edge you are in significant danger... while they are not.

That said, Ike is one of the best counterpick characters in the game. People have great difficulty fighting competent Ike's when said Ike's are on their CP stages and play to their strengths, and NO ONE (even Ike mains) knows whether Ike is good or bad against characters other than MK on these counterpick stages.

If you want a "fun" character, pick up Ike. Play him for fun with your friends and then if need be, throw him out in tourney on a counterpick if your opponent picks norfair or if you feel the need to switch things up.

He's also got neat tricksies. Something I used to do when the game first came out but have yet to see since... I used to double jump and start charging eruption when my opponent grabbed the edge. If my opponent goes off the edge, I release to hit him. If he hits me, I am super armored and he gets hit. This obviously is a reaction-time gamble, but it's still hella fun. :D


Also, Ike has a ***** taunt.

Overswarm said:

My hint is amazing.


Azen gets 10 million internets for the Miyamoto Musashi reference.

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Rofl. I didn't get the reference at first since I don't really equate Musashi to Ike :D

whoa. That's cory using azen's avatar.

what's weird is I specifically remember grey text and a starman...

since I only play ike, I have a lot to add to this. Until then-

PIZZA

Overswarm said:

whoa. That's cory using azen's avatar.

what's weird is I specifically remember grey text and a starman...

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sweet, i win.

really, everyone should have azen's avatar.

this thread needs more charge fsmash.

Azen is awesome, so are Cory and Umbreon.

What the heck is going on in this thread you guys are not Azen.

Also Ike is good at upspiking.

Umbreon said:

really, everyone should have azen's avatar.

this thread needs more charge fsmash.

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speaking of charging an f-smash, most of Ike's f-smash lag is start-up lag. Charging an f-smash is a good way to reduce that lag... so if someone is coming towards you in the air or towards the ledge and you start charging your f-smash, it comes out surprisingly fast when you let go.

=^_^=

Lets combine forces to have a triple Ike team and do a triple fsmash team combo!

Azen Zagenite said:

Lets combine forces to have a triple Ike team and do a triple fsmash team combo!

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Someone get a video of three Ike's hitting a Metaknight back and forth with f-smashes until he dies and I'll add it to the bonus page for my hint XD

wow, how do i start these things? i really should've copied his font color too >.>

also, it wasn't a musashi reference, sorry, os. listen to the sound he makes when he hits stuff, it's not an effing sword, it thwacks like and oar.

and charging f and usmash with ike (so i can contribute >.>) is mean, for the aforementioned reasons. totally his best strategy, followed closely by aaa spam.

speaking of aaa spam, i read somewhere that the first hit has superarmor? that true? just curious, silas (lolz at anyone who remembers him) plays ike and that jab usually just cuts through everything.

Ever done a weird combo by holding A and 1-2-1-2 jabbing someone across the level? I do it to Ganon sometimes if I jab him when he's in the air.

Actually, the 2's (the knee) never hits him, which is why it does the 1 (the fist) again.

I do that without juggling someone, by pressing A once, then repreately pressing and holding it for the knee, so it does a second punch, and then you press and hold for the knee, and repeat. It's fun to march across the stage with it.

Ike is better than people give him credit for - like his decent matchup against Marth, especially if they Marth isn't experienced with Ikes. IMO he does have his matchups. It's just that some matchups completely **** him. And he took away thousands of homes single handedly. That's gotta count for something.

Yeah. Ike having so many terribly one-sided matchups makes him a pretty awful main. Still awesome as a secondary though!

I retract this joke.

ike is the best in teams because he fights for his friends

IT'S SO OBVIOUS.

ike has some pretty ****ty matches, although MK and DDD are the worst. Generally though, even bad characters can beat ike enough to annoy the player, like wolf or link.

yes, link. link is basically designed to beat ike while losing to the rest of the cast.

DDD and Link have this magical ability called "shieldgrab everything ike does easily", but the difference is that DDD can CG to the edge to grab release dtilt or bair wall of pain which is just gay to him.

You'll get no sympathy from me.

NinjaLink's Ike made me realize Ike is actually a pretty decent character. Only reason he stopped using him as much as his other chars is because he gets gimped so rediculously easily. One nice thing I realized Silven's Ike started doing was when he's recovering, he'd reverse upB since my DDD would always try to run off stage and wall spike him w/ bairs. This usually stuffed my run off bair stage spike attempts after knocking him off stage or CGing him off stage. On BF, he'd sometimes go a lil past the edge and under BF and then reverse Up B to basically create a wall btwn him and his opponent so he can recovery safely.

yeah, that's a good strat. reverse up B to the edge is also a nasty edge guard, and functions to avoir Marth's counter or Pit's shield that would otherwise gimp him really bad.

Ike is definitely a good character, and his counters are relatively few for what they should be.

He's kind of like a slower, lighter, easier to gimp DK.

Ike's counter might as well not exist.

I beat vidjo's MK with Ike before lol, but only 1 out of 3 games.

Ike's entire game is just jab and hope you overspace moves so that they air dodge into you then you get them.

you forgot the other part called "hope my opponent doesn't realize that he can just walk away from me and I'm totally useless".

I don't think spamming beats ike that bad however, but normal camping most certainly does.

Umbreon said:

Ike's counter might as well not exist.

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You're OPEN!

I've seen plenty of moments where Ike's have used "You're Open!" properly.

Ike's counter is actaully a pretty good KO move. If you're gonan get hit, you know it, and if you never have used it before you can prolly throw it out there at least once... and if your opponent is at high% it can do some damage.