I think we need to thank Clinton.I feel like giving some frame data for you people to look at...
Mario
Jab: 2 frames
Forward Tilt: 5 frames
Up Tilt: 5 frames
Down Tilt: 7 frames
Dash Attack: 7 frames
Up Smash: 9 frames
Down Smash: 5 frames
Forward Smash: 15 frames
Side B: 12 frames
Neutral B: 14 frames
Down B: 25 frames?
Up B: 3 frames
Forward Aerial: 22 frames
Back Aerial: 6 frames
Down Aerial: 5 frames
Up Aerial: 4 frames
Neutral Aerial: 4 frames
Some notes here...they didn't have the start up time for FLUDD ...so I went and tried to fill that info in by comparing some things...