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SuSa

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Since the last one was outdated by 5 months, I figured I'd go ahead and remake it and keep it updated because I'm a no life like that.

We know about the Double Up-B Cypher Glitch, please make sure to check this entire thread twice before posting a new thread. It may be covered here. ;)


Index
  • 1. Guides (Written Guides, Video Guides)
  • 2. Discussions (Q&A, Team Discussion, Matchup Discussion, Stage Discussion)
  • 3. Other (Data, Index's)
  • 4. Thank you's and Notes
Guides

~~ Into the Fray: A Snake Survival Guide ~~ by abit_rusty
Probably our best and most in-depth guide on how to play Snake. This is a must read for any beginning or even intermediate Snake! It covers not only the basics, but quite a few advanced techniques, strategies, everything! It's even gone through a small, but important update recently!
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=162635



Snake Video Guide - The Elements of War by SuSa
For the more visual people out there. It is a 9 part series of videos showing everything you could need to know about Snake, including the basics, advanced techniques, edgeguarding, stage control, grenade strategies, etc.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=207671


Advanced Grenade Tactics by SuSa
Newer things with grenades.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=251311


Highwind's Guide to the Snake Intense Boss Rush! by Jeff Highwind
Ever wonder some of the best ways to beating Boss Battles with Snake? Then this guide is for you!
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=157494



The Ultimate Snake Compendium by Yes!!
A giant Compendium with tons of information on Snake's Moveset
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=138992



Stage Control/Pressuring Guide: Final Version by T*H*O*R
A well written guide on keeping pressure on your important, and keeping stage control. A vital for any serious Snake main.
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=163063



How to Cook Pineapples: Stupid Grenade Tricks by GammonWalker
How to cook grenades, simple tips and tricks on becoming the best chef there ever was! er....wait..
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=165922



How to Survive a Cypher Grab Break by SuSa
Just read the title, then watch the video in the OP.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=208197



Recovery Tips for Snake by Fizzi
Ever wonder which move to DI with is the best? How about some simple tips for recovering? Great thread by Fizzi right here.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=205761

Controller Port Priority Guide by 1HKO
A must read about -insert guide title here-.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=169109


A guide to Edgeguarding with Snake
Having trouble killing your opponent after knocking them off the stage? Read up!
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=253429


Discussions

Snake Stage Discussion Thread by Crystal/Velox
Find out the tips and tricks on every stage, who to counterpick what stage against, what are Snake's best and worst stages, anything that deals with stages (will) be covered in this thread.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=235461

Move Utilization by Tub
Discussion about Snake's moveset, who knows you may find a new application to a move, or find uses for a move you never use!
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=232258



Snake Matchups Thread ~ Currently: Vs. -Char- by abit_rusty
Everything you ever needed to know about a matchup is in this thread! Make sure to read it!
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=175515



Snake Q&A by Ken Neth
Have questions? We have answers!
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=234012



Advancing the Metagame - Little Facts We Need To test! by SuSa
Everything dealing with Snake's metagame is being tested here. If it's not contained in another thread, or used to not be contained, it was probably thought of here.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=208045

The New Snake Boards Stage Discussion
Want to learn what stages to choose in tournament? Read up!
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=258147

The New Snake Match-Up Thread
Having troubles with that one character? Come on in and read on how to be the best.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=260102

Other

A Dissertation on DACUS by T.H.O.R
Goes over the contact and no-contact 'mortarslides' (DACUS)
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=162058


In the Fray - Snake Video Thread by Black Heretic
An index of recent videos. Singles, video guides, combo videos, doubles, everything is right here!
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=230168


Diving into Dthrow by SuSa
Everything needed to know about dthrow and opponents.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=235804


Kill % Chart by __crystal___
When our kill moves kill!
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=236143



When C4 Jumps Kill Snake! by Dragmire
Tested from the depths of every level, its when blowing yourself up will kill you! Remember to take away a good 20-30% from each of the listed %'s to get around a normal bomb-jump.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=172417

When C4/Mines KO by SuSa
The KO %'s without DI and without Stale Move Negation against the entire cast. Good info to know.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=208172



25 for Mines, 26.5 for C4? by SuSa
Did you know C4 only lasts 26.5 seconds? I did! How about Mines lasting only 25 seconds? I knew that too!
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=208039



11 Grab Release Combos by SuSa
Grab Release combos!
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=7527280#post7527280



Snake Frame Data by Eternal Yoshi/SuSa
Curious to know when your hitboxes come out? How about how fast your attacks are? Everything you need to know about frame data is in this thread!
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=242407



Snake Knockback list by Mew2King Last Updated 04-11-2008
Just some neat data to have about Snake's Knockback gathered by Mew2King
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=162371



Planting C4 on the Edge! by SamuraiPanda
A neat discovery by our very own SamuraiPanda! It's not quite what you think it is, but the link contains a must watch video.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=163159



Snake Q & A **BIG Update: Cross Referencing Added** by T*H*O*R Last Updated 06-20-2008
Possibly the largest and most organized Q&A ever! However some stuff is out of date, and others that are not answered have been but still one of the best threads to check out!
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=175225



Double Up-B Cypher Glitch, Read Seriously by Havokk
A thread created because everyone keeps claiming they found it out. It tells how you get a Double Up-B and even has screenshots of disproved "glitches".
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=205560



D-throw *stick* and POWERSHIELD *stick* by Gimpyfish62
Gimpyfish provides us with something I don't see very often, POWERSHIELD STICKING IS AWESOME. (Dthrow stick, not so much)
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=147219

Thank You's and Other Notes

I would like to thank Samurai_Panda for coming in and reminding me of out outdated some of our stickies are. And for giving this a sticky ;)

I would like to thank everyone else that has contributed a thread that is 'featured' in this thread.

Notes:

Threads that have a "Last Updated" by them are Guides/Indexes/Matchup or Stage Discussions. Things such as Q&A's have no reason to be updated, therefore do not have a "Last Updated" by them.
 

Shadow_of_Link

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Nice dude. Especially that last one, I never thought such a thread existed >_> (lol, Jiggs gets KO'd at 82 by U-tilt)
 

Rickerdy-doo-da-day

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Could I suggest you put in something about Snake's Cypher exploding so people don't ask that question as well as the Double Up + B glitch?

Just to clarify, I've tested and the explosion that happens when you pull out another Cypher doesn't seem to do any damage at all D:
 

SuSa

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*BUMP*

OP went through an EPIC makeover! Make sure to check out all the new threads, including old ones made by Gimpfish and Mew2King!

Very interesting reads, and has some tips and tricks that may have been forgotten (such as powershielding to the c4 stick by gimpyfish!)

Also added descriptions to most, if not all of the threads.
 

8AngeL8

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Wow, that was a fast sticky! It deserves it, though, this looks pretty thorough.

o.0 So many threads started by Havokk...
 

UltimateRazer

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Fine...I'll take it to the next level: Havokk for next Genetically Altered Clone.

It'll look something like this ----> :olimar:

10geneticclones
 

SuSa

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Fine...I'll take it to the next level: Havokk for next Genetically Altered Clone.

It'll look something like this ----> :olimar:

10geneticclones
lmao, nice.

OP Updated.

abit_rusty's guide has been updated (only a small update for now... have to get used to the order of his guide to make better edits)

abit_rusty's matchup discussion has replaced my own, due to me running it... :laugh:
 

SuSa

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Ok everyone!!!!

"Snake Q & A **BIG Update: Cross Referencing Added** by T*H*O*R"

You see that? Yah... THOR has intrusted me with his information. I will be updating it/bumping it soon.

The most giant compendium of knowledge, even though a tad outdated, will be completely updated bit by bit. New things will be added, old things fixed, etc.

I believe that thread is already the largest and most organized Q&A on Smashboards, and I will be leaving all of his formatting in the thread, and continue to use his formatting when I edit the thread.

:) I'm looking forward to this.

I also may update his other thread:

"Stage Control/Pressuring Guide: Final Version by T*H*O*R"
 

SuSa

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It's nothing special though =p

Video on proper DI coming soon (to end all questions about DI, and because it'll be useful knowledge for me to know with further proof, besides theoritcal results from other data I have.

I will also update the "last updated" times sometime soon, lol
 

SuSa

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Updated yet again.

Updated:

Q&A, and this one other thread. (lmao)
oh yah, and the title.


"Warning! The last reply to this thread was posted over two months ago."

<_< this was worth it.
 

Sinz

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add your diving into dthrow guide into this Susa.
 

SuSa

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That one wasn't entirely my choice.

I had it unstickied, all was good, S. Panda stickied it, everyone started living in it, I unstickied it, boards died, S. Panda said we should agree on what to do - so I stickied it again. We have continued living in it.

I'd let the place die if it meant we could be active in other threads after a short while. :/
 

Black_Heretic

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it didn't need to be said, nobody had bumped it since October, it really was rather stupid to post in a thread nobody was posting in to tell people not to post
 
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