• Welcome to Smashboards, the world's largest Super Smash Brothers community! Over 250,000 Smash Bros. fans from around the world have come to discuss these great games in over 19 million posts!

    You are currently viewing our boards as a visitor. Click here to sign up right now and start on your path in the Smash community!

25 for Mines, 27 for C4?

SuSa

Banned via Administration
Joined
Jul 20, 2008
Messages
11,508
Location
planking while watching anime with Fino
I tested it out of 3 drops and got the same exact times (rounded to nearest second because of human error)

Drop - Exploded - Time Taken


C4 Testing


Take 1
Drop:98:53
Exploded: 98:27
Time Taken: 26 Seconds (but I dropped it at like 98:54 if I round up; therefore 27 seconds)

Drop: 98:15
Exploded: 97:48
Time Taken: 27 seconds

Drop: 97:23
Exploded: 96:56
Time Taken: 27 Seconds

Take 2
Drop: 98:54
Exploded: 98:27
Time Taken: 27 seconds

Drop: 97:27
Exploded: 97:00
Time Taken: 27 Seconds

Drop: 96:00
Exploded: 95:33
Time Taken: 27 Seconds

"But 6 isn't enough"
It is when you're testing with a dumb SD'ing CPU.... and considering they were all 27 seconds (except the first that was a bit off...) it is safe to assume:

Our C4 lasts 27 seconds before exploding.


I'll get more drops up soon if you don't trust my data + hunches.

Mine Testing


Drop: 93:21
Dissapeared: 92:56
Time Taken: 25 Seconds

Drop: 92:44
Dissapeared: 92:19
Time Taken: 25 Seconds

Drop: 91:55
Dissapeared: 91:30
Time Taken: 25 Seconds

Our mines dissapear in 25 seconds! (Drop is considered when I can freely move)

These are UNCHARGED^^^

Charged Mine Testing:

Drop: 90:32
Dissapeared: 90:07
Time Taken: 25 Seconds


Safe to assume, charging your mine makes no difference.
 

8AngeL8

Smash Lord
Joined
Oct 4, 2008
Messages
1,298
Location
Dallas, TX
Sweet, good to finally have that cleared up. I wonder why they'd program 27 seconds? Seems like a weird number...
 

SuSa

Banned via Administration
Joined
Jul 20, 2008
Messages
11,508
Location
planking while watching anime with Fino
Not sure, but now we know something our opponents don't know.

Don't go near our C4 27 seconds after we place it, and try to throw our opponents into it. ;)

And yea, 27 seconds is a weird number to choose....>.>

*goes to test Mines to see if they have any time limit besides "Snake Dying" or "Proximity"
 

8AngeL8

Smash Lord
Joined
Oct 4, 2008
Messages
1,298
Location
Dallas, TX
I can't be positive, but I wanna say they do. I've had mines disappear and I don't remember either of us going over it, or my dying.
 

SuSa

Banned via Administration
Joined
Jul 20, 2008
Messages
11,508
Location
planking while watching anime with Fino
Mine Testing

Drop: 93:21
Dissapeared: 92:56
Time Taken: 25 Seconds

Drop: 92:44
Dissapeared: 92:19
Time Taken: 25 Seconds

Drop: 91:55
Dissapeared: 91:30
Time Taken: 25 Seconds

--- Our mines dissapear in 25 seconds! (Drop is considered when I can freely move)

These are UNCHARGED^^^

Charged Mine Testing:

Drop: 90:32
Dissapeared: 90:07
Time Taken: 25 Seconds

Safe to assume, charging your mine makes no difference.
 

8AngeL8

Smash Lord
Joined
Oct 4, 2008
Messages
1,298
Location
Dallas, TX
Ha, I knew I was right. Thanks for the testing. Is this going somewhere in your big, comprehensive sticky?
 

SuSa

Banned via Administration
Joined
Jul 20, 2008
Messages
11,508
Location
planking while watching anime with Fino
Yea, it's already been updated and this is in there. :)

Useful knowledge for this:

It takes about 2 seconds to lay down an uncharged mine, then drop a c4. Knowing that knowledge ALWAYS PLACE YOUR C4 FIRST because it blows up later.

So:

C4 Drop
then
Mine

Then they will blow up at around the same time :)
 

Taeran

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Nov 24, 2008
Messages
414
Location
VA
Off Topic @ Havokk: I'm in the room now.

Join?

This is very Useful information, I thought is was a lot longer.
 

Black_Heretic

Smash Lord
Joined
Apr 22, 2008
Messages
1,895
Location
Norcal
I came on to post the same findings

I got identical #s

D*MN YOU HAVOKK

also, in my testing of time of C4 after Snake died, I either got 27 (rounded up) or the C4 just disappeared, do you know what causes it to disappear instead of exploding?
 

DUB

Smash Lord
Joined
Sep 7, 2008
Messages
1,514
Location
Wilmington, NC
Nice work Havokk. Can't even count how many times my own C4 has detonated by itself and killed me. Glad I know the time now.
 

SuSa

Banned via Administration
Joined
Jul 20, 2008
Messages
11,508
Location
planking while watching anime with Fino
it only happened 6 times during our (me and my friends) testing.

I hate stupid random things that make testing harder
Do you know what might have caused it? (a death right at 27 seconds perhaps?)

oo thats interesting. so if you like drop a c4, and since its time stock in tourney play, you can see when to throw your opponents into the c4! lol
Basically =p and every info is useful to know

Nice work Havokk. Can't even count how many times my own C4 has detonated by itself and killed me. Glad I know the time now.
Welcome :) and it's killed me and cost me a tourney match xD so I'm glad I know now.
 

Black_Heretic

Smash Lord
Joined
Apr 22, 2008
Messages
1,895
Location
Norcal
Do you know what might have caused it? (a death right at 27 seconds perhaps?)
We tried to recreate it, didn't get any luck, I'll list what we tried:

I let my friend kill me right after I placed it
I let him kill me right before it exploded
an SD right after placement
an SD right before it exploded
an SD right AS it was supposed to explode (took 11 tries)
dying off the top, bottom, or side blast zones
SDing off the top bottom or side
getting killed while attempting to detonate the C4

It just randomly happened 6 times, but not once while attempting to recreate it
 

CELTiiC

Dong 2 Strong
Joined
Nov 2, 2008
Messages
651
Location
Pennsylvania
NNID
TBGCELTiiC
3DS FC
3840-7097-4621
Nice topic Havokk, it always seemed to me it was longer than 25/27 seconds before my C4 or Mine blew up.
 

CSBrokaw

Smash Cadet
Joined
Dec 21, 2006
Messages
50
Location
Puyallup, WA
Alright, now that WE know, everyone else is going to know too.

Meaning chaingrabbers are going to try and get us near our own C4 around 20 seconds :(
 

davizinho

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Jun 23, 2008
Messages
132
Location
MN
Ha, thank you so much Havokk. I've lost count of how many times I've killed myself with my C4.
But now, other characters know this...
 

SamuraiPanda

Smash Hero
Joined
May 22, 2006
Messages
6,924
I thought it was common knowledge that the C4 timing was slightly less than 30 seconds ^_^''

Doesn't really matter for many Snake players, though. My intuitive sense for C4 is generally accurate within a few seconds. I enjoy catching people with the C4 when it goes off by itself :D
 

abit_rusty

Smash Lord
Joined
Nov 7, 2006
Messages
1,544
Location
East Lansing, MI
NNID
Rontuaru
3DS FC
2895-8974-0662
Funny thing the other day, I was playing some friendlies with an MK. I had a c4 on one of the BF platforms. It was getting to around 20 seconds so I just yelled "Now!". He was directly under it and he shields. Nothing happens.

MK player: "Wait...wha?" *unshields*
*C4 explodes*
*I crack up*
 

8AngeL8

Smash Lord
Joined
Oct 4, 2008
Messages
1,298
Location
Dallas, TX
Dont see how this is that useful, As if your going to be timing your c4 in the middle of an intense battle ;o
If you have a time limit on like you would in a tourney, you could look at the clock and know EXACTLY when it's going to go off.
 

mc4

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Jul 15, 2008
Messages
283
Good data, i've never cared to time the c4 but its good to know, i woulda had to get around to it eventually because i get tired of it randomly exploding with me on it instead of the opponent lol good job.
 

cycon365

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Dec 25, 2007
Messages
157
Location
GA
Funny thing the other day, I was playing some friendlies with an MK. I had a c4 on one of the BF platforms. It was getting to around 20 seconds so I just yelled "Now!". He was directly under it and he shields. Nothing happens.

MK player: "Wait...wha?" *unshields*
*C4 explodes*
*I crack up*

haha, i'm gonna try that:laugh:
 

Black_Heretic

Smash Lord
Joined
Apr 22, 2008
Messages
1,895
Location
Norcal
Funny thing the other day, I was playing some friendlies with an MK. I had a c4 on one of the BF platforms. It was getting to around 20 seconds so I just yelled "Now!". He was directly under it and he shields. Nothing happens.

MK player: "Wait...wha?" *unshields*
*C4 explodes*
*I crack up*
you are my hero
 
Top Bottom