• Welcome to Smashboards, the world's largest Super Smash Brothers community! Over 250,000 Smash Bros. fans from around the world have come to discuss these great games in over 19 million posts!

    You are currently viewing our boards as a visitor. Click here to sign up right now and start on your path in the Smash community!

Invokke Havokk - The President Vs The People. (A rate me thread)

SuSa

Banned via Administration
Joined
Jul 20, 2008
Messages
11,508
Location
planking while watching anime with Fino
The scrub President of the Snake boards presents!

Random wifi meaningless videos of my Snake in action.


Snake - The Man

Havok vs Abit Rusty (Snake Ditto):
Match filled with too much epic due to (you guessed it) lag
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ_uZShasIU&feature=channel_page

Havok vs Raimundo
(we do too many friendlies to count! rofl):

:wolf: WOLF :wolf:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIQ9sUarlVM&feature=channel

:falco: FALCO :falco:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fta3EGgqDCk&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1CqvyR_rdU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i14QDQqv_VI

:gw:GAME AND WATCH :gw:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS82HWPSRXc

vs M.S.A.S
:zerosuitsamus: ZAMUS :zerosuitsamus:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciq_vX2p7oI

vs. LinIsKorean

:bowser: BOWSER :bowser:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXhfBKpGkV0



Some Random Ganon:
:ganondorf: GANON :ganondorf:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p86b4jHrHs

vs Xia
:ganondorf: GANON :ganondorf:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8eE8STl2O8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyAG...rl]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah3c51Oj1JA
 

8AngeL8

Smash Lord
Joined
Oct 4, 2008
Messages
1,298
Location
Dallas, TX
I only had time to watch a couple, watched the 2nd and third vs. Falco. After the 2nd, I had all sorts of tips for you, but then after the 3rd you already corrected everything :p My only recommendations would be to play a little more explosives heavy at low percents to try and trade even damage until about 35 damage to avoid early gimps. When you're both fresh, it's his advantage. As soon as you hit 40, it's massively in your favor, so don't be afraid to take some damage in return for giving it to him in equal measure.

Also, more Dthrow! Techchasing and punishing with Dthrow is my favorite part about playing Snake, and it's crazy effective when you get good at it.

Really nice Snake, though :)
 

SuSa

Banned via Administration
Joined
Jul 20, 2008
Messages
11,508
Location
planking while watching anime with Fino
haha... If you're talking about the Delfino vid.... thats not only my worst stage, but I was sandbagging (that match happened just after the Lylat Cruise rapage... rofl)

I deserved what I got, and what I got was ****.

~Coming in 5-15 minutes~
Vs M.S.A.S
Zamus:

Coming at around 5PM~
vs Bigfoot
DK:
Bowser:
(I'll try to get both, live recordings too ;) because our matches are like 4-5 minutes)

vs LinIsKorean
Bowser:
(I'll also throw in some Bowser vs Bowser ;o to live up to my signature)
 

8AngeL8

Smash Lord
Joined
Oct 4, 2008
Messages
1,298
Location
Dallas, TX
No johns :chuckle:

The internet where I'm at right now is too slow for Youtube, I want to watch some more later. I wanna play you in Snake dittos so badly!
 

SuSa

Banned via Administration
Joined
Jul 20, 2008
Messages
11,508
Location
planking while watching anime with Fino
No johns :chuckle:

The internet where I'm at right now is too slow for Youtube, I want to watch some more later. I wanna play you in Snake dittos so badly!
I hate Snake dittos =p

Haha, not really johning... I got what I got for doing what I did =p

Goes to show:
Sandbagging can be bad.

I have like 250~ replays vs Raimundo, but not all of them are 'worth' uploading IMHO
 

8AngeL8

Smash Lord
Joined
Oct 4, 2008
Messages
1,298
Location
Dallas, TX
Snake dittos > Falco dittos. Well, I really wish I could play you in any matchup, but online is LAME. Maybe if I decide to fly out of Cali this summer...
 

SuSa

Banned via Administration
Joined
Jul 20, 2008
Messages
11,508
Location
planking while watching anime with Fino
I posted this on AiB, but your post is making me post it here as well.


My thoughts on wifi
You're not used to WiFi is all.

Online helps offline a lot more then people think. The reason most players think this is because they started offline.

Offline play totally demloshes Online play. I play'd online for months, went to my first tourney, got 9th. Lost to HugS in losers bracket, and Nano (Zamus, my bad matchup :/ for Snake) in Winners. I went home that night with tons of practice, new tricks I wanted to try out, etc.

So I went on WiFi and played with a friend that I normally go even (and win), or demolish. He was 2 and 3 stocking me left and right because of lag.

I finally noticed how much lag Wifi really has, my Online gameplay was ruined for about 2 weeks before I got adjusted to it.


So a quick recap

Play Online to get good at Offline. (depending who you play, and other variables)
Play Offline to get horrible at Online play (hence why most people say Online sucks, or they suck Online. You just need a week or two of conditioning)

I can INFINITE with my Ice Climbers Online and Offline <3 But I noticed if I practice at all Offline, I mess up my CG's online for a small while (few hours) before I can do them again.


Moral of the story:
Give Wifi a lot of time and effort, look at Ally. icon_smile He's a beast Offline, and plays a lot off Online and on the AiB Ladder.

People who john about being bad at Wifi, or refuse to play Wifi, are the people who will never play Online because they aren't conditioning themselves over a week or two, but they play for a day, or maybe even an hour, notice they suck more, and never play it. If people just STUCK WITH IT for a week or two, they'd improve to (almost) their Offline gameplay.


If you play against a 'good' player on Wifi, have little lag (there is ALWAYS SOME lag, but not "game hindering"), and both of you play Wifi OFTEN, you can use that to gauge your skills.

If you play a against a 'good' player on WiFi, has little lag, but that 'good' player RARELY, IF EVER plays on Wifi, and you win. That's because they aren't conditioned and you are.
 

8AngeL8

Smash Lord
Joined
Oct 4, 2008
Messages
1,298
Location
Dallas, TX
Wow, I can see you've given it some thought. You make a good argument, maybe I should give it another shot.
 

napZzz

Smash Hero
Joined
Mar 4, 2008
Messages
5,294
Location
cg, MN
My thoughts exactly on wifi havokk

Its like running with 10 pound ankle weights, then taking them off the day of the big race :)

Yes my simile/metaphor thingy is win.
 

SuSa

Banned via Administration
Joined
Jul 20, 2008
Messages
11,508
Location
planking while watching anime with Fino
Comparison is exactly what wifi is.

Think of it like training with a little extra weight, lol.

Bowser vs Bowser - Coming soon
Random vids - Coming soon

(Rate me in general, not just my Snake :3 the MAJORITY of this thread is about my Snake though)

Quotes cuz I'm bored:

"Ally is inhuman, and so can you!" (the Elements of War motto xD)
 

LinIsKorean

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Nov 1, 2008
Messages
221
Location
Anaheim Hills, CA
Havokk is coolness, these vids are really helping me notice what I do too much of or too little of.

Not to mention he's at least decent with almost every character (from what I can tell on WiFi.)

I hope we can play offline someday, so I can show you I'm not as terrible as the WiFi suggests. XD
 

Taeran

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Nov 24, 2008
Messages
414
Location
VA
I never play offline now, mostly due to the fact that my offline friends suck worse than... uh... Captain Falcon?
 

SuSa

Banned via Administration
Joined
Jul 20, 2008
Messages
11,508
Location
planking while watching anime with Fino
OP Updated.

Falcon is really Snake on vacation. He left all his gear at home and wears the funny outfit as a disguise to hope no one recognizes him.

That's why Falcon and Snake are both manly, and why Falcon kicks so much ***. Falcon's Knee is really Snake's knee, isn't the Fair==Ftilt comparison enough proof?
 

UltimateRazer

Smash Champion
Joined
May 20, 2008
Messages
2,989
Location
Houston, TX
I disagree. I used to play online 24/7 and then when I went to a couple of tournaments, I hated it. In fact, it made me worse when I tried online. It can sometimes help with the match up but input lag exists in every match. I rarely play it. Only when im bord or something. Go play offline with friends in the community instead.
 

SuSa

Banned via Administration
Joined
Jul 20, 2008
Messages
11,508
Location
planking while watching anime with Fino
What friends? Why is your main Samus? You're bad at adjusting.

I play nothing but online and do fine IRL friendlies and tourneys. Just quit out of matches with to much lag, tell the person you won't play them.

You're playing it the wrong way, and hence when you go offline the lack of button delay messes you up.

Everything I can do offline I can do online, and vise-versa. Except I do get screwed up for an hour or a few for things like the IC's chaingrabs, unless I go practice them for 5-10 minutes really quick in training mode.

:mewtwo:
 

UltimateRazer

Smash Champion
Joined
May 20, 2008
Messages
2,989
Location
Houston, TX
Friends as in people in the smash community.

People are different and online affects them differently.

But its best to train offline with average and above ppl for better training.
 
Top Bottom