Pit Indepth Frame Data ( Currently Unfinished)

Coffee™ · Feb 20, 2009

Pit Indepth Frame Data ( Currently Unfinished)

I'll finish the rest of it later.....

Jab

Total for all 3 Jabs without hitting: 63

First hit on frame 5
Shield hit lag:
Shield stun:
Advantage:
Hit Lag:

Second hit on frame 12
Shield hit lag:
Shield stun:
Advantage:
Hit Lag:

Thrird hit on frame 19
Shield hit lag:
Shield stun:
Advantage:
Hit Lag:

Starts Infinte Jab on frame 23
Shield hit lag:
Shield stun:
Advantage:
Hit Lag:

Dash Attack:
Total: 49
First hits on frame 6
Shield hit lag:
Shield stun:
Advantage:
Hit Lag:

Dtilt
Total: 29
First hits on frame 6
Shield hit lag:
Shield stun:
Advantage:
Hit Lag:

Ftilt
Total: 40
First hits on frame 14
Shield hit lag:
Shield stun:
Advantage:
Hit Lag:

Utilt
Total: 35
First hits on frame 2
Second hits on frame 9
Third hits on frame 20
Shield hit lag:
Shield stun:
Advantage:
Hit Lag:

Uair:
Total: 31
First Hit on frame 3
Landing lag: 31
Shield hit lag:
Shield stun:
Advantage:
Hit Lag:

Bair:
Total: 27
First Hit on frame 7
Hitbox is out from frames 7-20
Landing lag: 16
Shield hit lag:
Shield stun:
Advantage:
Hit Lag:

Nair:
Total: 31
First Hit on frame 3
Landing lag: 31
Shield hit lag:
Shield stun:
Advantage:

Fair:
Total: 28
First Hit on frame 11
Landing lag: 16
Shield hit lag:
Shield stun:
Advantage:
Hit Lag:

Dair:
Total: 38
Earliest possible hit on frame 10
Latest possible Hit on frame 17
Landing lag: 31
Shield hit lag:
Shield stun:
Advantage:
Hit Lag:

Glide Attack:
Total: 32
Earliest possible hit on frame 6
Latest possible Hit on frame 11
Landing lag: 2
Shield hit lag:
Shield stun:
Advantage:
Hit Lag:

Usmash:
Total: 46
First hit on frame 5
Hit Lag:
Second hit on frame 12
Hit Lag:
Third hit on frame 23
Hit Lag:
Shield hit lag:
Shield stun:
Advantage:

Dsmash:
Total: 41
First hit on frame 5
Hit Lag: 30
Second hit on frame 18
Hit Lag: 29
Shield hit lag:
Shield stun:
Advantage:

Fsmash:
Total: 48
First hit on frame 6
Second hit on frame 24
Shield hit lag:
Shield stun:
Hit Lag: 15
Advantage:

Down B - (Mirror Shield)
Total: 40
Comes out on frame 5
Reflects attacks on frames 5-19

Neutral B - (Paletuna's Arrow)
Total: 40
Shoots arrow on frame 20
Hit Lag: 22

Forward B - (Angel Ring)
Total: 64
First hits on frame 12
Ends quickest on frame 41
Hit Lag:

Up B
Wings come out on frame 1
Total: 209
Wind is active from frames 5-16

Standing Grab:
Total: 29
First grabs on frame 6

Dash Grab:
Total: 39
First grabs on frame 10

Pivot Grab:
Total: 35
First grabs on frame 8

Grab Pummel
Total: 26
Hits on frame 2

Spot Dodge:
Total: 25
Invincible frames 2 – 20

Air Dodge:
Total: 35
Invincible frames 9 – 30

Roll Backward:
Total: 33
Invincible frames 4 – 19

Roll Forward:
Total: 33
Invincible frames 4 – 19

Jump airborne on frame 5
SH airborne for 42 frames

Hayang · Feb 20, 2009

*Pats mania on back*

Nikenick · Feb 20, 2009

Great thread, good job. This information will be really helpfull.

MrEh · Feb 20, 2009

Jab comes out on frame 5? Wow, that's slower then I thought.

Frame 2 utilt is cool though.

Rogue Pit · Feb 20, 2009

Wings come out on Frame 1? Is that the same for airborn as well as grounded?

Valuno · Feb 20, 2009

Good job on getting the new data, especially the special frame data ^_^
Jab comes out sooooo slowly though... ._.

Coffee™ · Feb 20, 2009

Rogue Pit said:
Wings come out on Frame 1? Is that the same for airborn as well as grounded?

Yes, they come out on frame 1 both grounded and aerially.

rinoH · Feb 20, 2009

nice job man

Byuusan · Feb 20, 2009

lol for a min i was thinking.... isn't this MK framedata? XD

DemonicTrilogy · Feb 20, 2009

Wow, good job! So nair and uair are the fastest aerials here.... Wow, I thought it was just nair.

SSD · Feb 20, 2009

Different numbers than Kupo's old thread(it was kupo who did the last one, right?).

two things:

When you say total of 206 frames for WoI...is that when you regain control of Pit after a grounded WoI?
What are the super armor frames on the mirror shield? (I might be mistaken here, but I thought there were some...)

Byuusan · Feb 20, 2009

SSD said:
Different numbers than Kupo's old thread(it was kupo who did the last one, right?).

two things:

When you say total of 206 frames for WoI...is that when you regain control of Pit after a grounded WoI?
What are the super armor frames on the mirror shield? (I might be mistaken here, but I thought there were some...)

remember these are unfinished, it not complete yet.

Recoil · Feb 20, 2009

SSD said:
Different numbers than Kupo's old thread(it was kupo who did the last one, right?).

Kupo's thread was inaccurate. It had data where you could do 10 nairs in a shorthop.

Also, gj on the frame data. The more you know haha.

SSD · Feb 21, 2009

Recoil said:
Kupo's thread was inaccurate. It had data where you could do 10 nairs in a shorthop.

Also, gj on the frame data. The more you know haha.

that was the first thread, where he only had the impact data, not full duration. I thought that was obvious.

I was talking about the second thread.

Undrdog · Feb 21, 2009

How exactly did you get this frame data?

kown · Feb 21, 2009

do all upb's come out on frame one?

CorruptFate · Feb 21, 2009

UndrDog said:
How exactly did you get this frame data?

One of the hacks (a debug code) in Brawl + lets you pause and go frame by frame or somthing like that.

PenUmbra · Feb 21, 2009

Is there any IASA data? Does Pit have interruptible moments of cooldown?

LoveChrist · Feb 21, 2009

It would be amazing if the priorities were figured out.
GREAT job btw =D

Levitas · Feb 22, 2009

Even with the hack, are you certain you have both accounted for the correct frame as frame 1 and are using a correct method to test duration?

I don't see a spot for hitlag, and it's uncertain whether you're assuming a hit or miss as a convention for the latter hit frames on multi hit moves.

Coffee™ · Feb 22, 2009

Levitas said:
Even with the hack, are you certain you have both accounted for the correct frame as frame 1 and are using a correct method to test duration?

Pretty certain. I'll send you a pm on this later.

I don't see a spot for hitlag, and it's uncertain whether you're assuming a hit or miss as a convention for the latter hit frames on multi hit moves.

For the current frames I assumed a miss. I intend to record the hitlag frame data later.

yummynbeefy · Feb 22, 2009

uair definately doesnt come out in 3 frames
imma say it comes out more on like frame 5 or 6

Coffee™ · Feb 23, 2009

You can't just guess at frames.....

Ryanarius · Feb 23, 2009

Am I blind or are you missing dair?

Coffee™ · Feb 23, 2009

I have to do Glide Attack and Dair. Its kind of funny it took someone this long to realise it though lol

teh_pwns_the · Feb 23, 2009

R@vyn said:
You can't just guess at frames.....

this is truth, isnt that why kupo's old thread got shut down, dont see him around much anymore, too caught up in brawl+ i suppose

is there an ETA on the rest of this data, or at least the next chunk?

madival · Feb 24, 2009

Great thread, been looking everywhere for this data.

Coffee™ · Feb 24, 2009

teh_pwns_the said:
this is truth, isnt that why kupo's old thread got shut down, dont see him around much anymore, too caught up in brawl+ i suppose

is there an ETA on the rest of this data, or at least the next chunk?

Next chunk today....I might even finish it all depending on the amount of time I have.

Levitas · Feb 24, 2009

someone check the Q&A thread. I have a question I need answered by the time I'm back from my ski trip for the next two days.

CorruptFate · Feb 25, 2009

R@vyn let me know when you up date this please, that way I can up date the info in the U guide.

Phaigne · Feb 28, 2009

Hey Maniac, would you mind if I used your numbers in a guide of mine? Of course full credit would be given, I just want to make the information more easily available.

Coffee™ · Mar 1, 2009

Thats fine.

arm · Mar 2, 2009

On which frames of Pits shield do you have Super armor?

Hayang · Mar 28, 2009

bumping to avoid archival.

Lezard · May 21, 2009

R@vyn, do yo know how many frames in a WingDash? this could be really helpfull

thanks in advance
anybody?

Byuusan · May 21, 2009

Lezard said:
R@vyn, do yo know how many frames in a WingDash? this could be really helpfull

thanks in advance
anybody?

I think he keeping teh frame data strictly to jsut basic moveset.

Lezard · May 21, 2009

but this could prove to many that wingdash is very useful because now it would become a fact rather than a idea

Katana_koden · Jun 10, 2009

Can you add Dthrow and others reaction time. I believe there are combo's in brawl, you just have to be really fast. I play peach and pit. With peach's dair > dair> combo is actually a combo in training instead of waiting on character bounce. I managed to pull 11 hit combo Dair>Dair>Uair> Up B on metaknight. Its unavoidable. Just gotta be fast. So i tested with pit, the closest thing i came up with pit without a spam a combo is with his Dthow, jump, fair. a 3 hit combo on meta. I want to know when you can react after throws and stuff and up B time to help me know which moves comes out faster to hit. I'm going to test tonight more.

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