The official Captain falcon's real combo's thread

Zeallyx · Feb 21, 2009

Captain falcon still has real combo's in brawl. This topic contains every real (meaning inescapable) combo's falcon has in brawl.

The layout in this thread will be like this:

[ first move off the combo]
> [ move it combo's into]
> [ another move the first move of the combo combo's into]

read: all the moves after the arrows form individual combo's with the first move.
This will make this thread easier to the eyes.

Additional info (like damage percentages your opponent needs to have, characters it works on, etc.) will be listed under all the possible combo's the first move can produce.

Ok, now the layout and the use of this thread are explained, let the thread begin.

Captain falcon's real combo's

Jab
> second jab
> grab

Additional info:
As the jab has set knockback, these combo's work at all percentages.

second jab
> grab

Dair
> (sweetspotted) Fair
> up b
> Uair
> Dair
> Nair
> Bair
> jab
> grab
> raptor boost

Additional info:
Most of these combo's require one to execute the SH Dair so one does not endure landing lag. (this is done by Dairing immediatly after you SH)

Flubbed (meaning: non-sweetspotted) Fair (when the opponent does not trip)
> jab
> grab

Additional info:As the flub knee has very little knockback, the >jab/grab combo's work till high percents.

Flubbed Fair>opponent trips
> jab
> grab
> Fsmash
> Dsmash
> Dtilt
> Ftilt
> Utilt
> up b

Additional info:
The flub knee can only make your opponent trip till they are at around 35% damage. (meaning these combo's only work till the opponent has around 35% damage.)

FF First hit Nair
> jab
> grab
> up b
> Fair
> Dtilt
> Ftilt
> Dsmash
> Dash attack
> Fsmash
> Utilt
> Ftilt

Additional info:

> Fair/Dsmash/Utilt/Ftilt Fsmash only works on:
Samus
Peach
R.O.B
Zelda
Lucario
Marth
- As the FF'd first hit Nair has set knockback, all combo's starting with the FF first hit Nair work at all percentages.

Bair
> buffered jab
> (dash) grab

Additional info: the >buffered jab only works at low(er) percents.
The > (dash) grab only works at middle/low(er) percents.

Falcon kick>ledge cancel
> Uair

Additional info:
One must connect with the last hitbox of the falcon kick>ledge cancel and then Uair as soon as you are able to.

Grounded footstool
> aerial falcon kick

SH Sweetspotted Fair
> jab
> grab
> dash attack

Additional info:For these combo's to work the SH Fair must be executed in a way so one does not experience landing lag. (this is done by Fairing immediatly after you SH)

These combo's only work at low(er) percents.
These combo's only work on taller opponents, said characters are:
Ganondorf
Snake
Marth
DDD
Bowser
DK
Charizard

it also works on SHing opponents.

Uair
> jab
> grab

Additonal info:These combo's only work at low(er) percents.
When you RaR the Uair this works till middle/low(er) percents.

Grab release combo's
on:

Wario
> Fair
> Uair
> Dair
> Bair
> up b

Squirtle
> regrab
> dash attack

- Incase I forgot (to mention) something, please let me know, and I will add it to this post.

Face124 · Feb 21, 2009

d-air>
grab
rb
falcon kick

grab release combos?

Sweet Knee>
jab
grab
dash-a
up-B?

U-air>
grab
jab

Does N-air > U-tilt not work on those floatys?

Zeallyx · Feb 21, 2009

Face124 said:
d-air>
grab
rb
falcon kick

grab release combos?

Sweet Knee>
jab
grab
dash-a
up-B?

U-air>
grab
jab

Does N-air > U-tilt not work on those floatys?

Thanks, I knew I forgot somethings.
And I never tested the tilts, but I think they should work as they are faster than a SH Fair.

Face124 · Feb 21, 2009

ToKneeOrNotToKnee said:
Thanks, I knew I forgot somethings.
And I never tested the tilts, but I think they should work as they are faster than a SH Fair.

If F-air works shouldn't U-air?

Zeallyx · Feb 21, 2009

Face124 said:
If F-air works shouldn't U-air?

yes, it should. but again, the lack of testing held me back from adding it.

also, Dair>FK/RB are not combos' IIRC.

Winnar · Feb 21, 2009

d-air to falcon punch

Oh wait no wrong thread.

Where's the up-b to up-b edgehog against certain characters as an edgehog (Lucas and Ness for sure). It's a true enough combo because it's inescapable so long as you fall with them and wait for them to start the pk thunder. Yesz

Zeallyx · Feb 21, 2009

Winnar said:
d-air to falcon punch

Oh wait no wrong thread.

Where's the up-b to up-b edgehog against certain characters as an edgehog (Lucas and Ness for sure). It's a true enough combo because it's inescapable so long as you fall with them and wait for them to start the pk thunder. Yesz

I am sorry, but I cannot add that.
I hope you understand why.

Mit · Feb 21, 2009

Forgot the classic flubbed knee in the air (usually FF) -> uair. Also, if the circumstances are perfect, flubbed knee -> sweetspotted knee should be possible as well (thus, nair should be possible as well.)

Zeallyx · Feb 21, 2009

Mit said:
Forgot the classic flubbed knee in the air (usually FF) -> uair. Also, if the circumstances are perfect, flubbed knee -> sweetspotted knee should be possible as well (thus, nair should be possible as well.)

Flubbed knee>Uair in the air is not a real combo.
and flub knee>sweetspotted knee ( I assume you mean in the air, but it doesn't matter, as on the ground it isn't a real combo either) is not a real combo, either.

SmashBrother2008 · Feb 21, 2009

Toknee, you're great. This is exactly what I was asking about in the backroom. Falcon needed a documentation of combos pretty badly.

Mit · Feb 21, 2009

ToKneeOrNotToKnee said:
Flubbed knee>Uair in the air is not a real combo.

Are you sure about that? O_o If done towards the end of the flub knee, I don't think I've ever seen anyone escape it.

Zeallyx · Feb 21, 2009

Mit said:
Are you sure about that? O_o If done towards the end of the flub knee, I don't think I've ever seen anyone escape it.

because escaping it would require an airdodge, wich in turn will most likely make your opponent SD. (when used offstage)

It is just very likely to work if pulled off at the right moment.
But the fact stays a simple airdodge can make your opponent escape.

Winnar · Feb 21, 2009

I'm not sure how useful a thread like this is, but that's another story. And yeah I understand, not really a combo; it's more a reliable edgeguard I guess.

Oh, and you put that FF n-air (first hit) -> f-air is a true combo (which I'm skeptical of), but if that's the case then FF n-air (first hit) -> n-air should be another one, at least against some characters.

Also I'm pretty sure flub knee (in air) if hit with one of the last frames -> u-air is a true combo. Don't double jump, just throw the u-air.

Face124 · Feb 21, 2009

I tested, d-air > RB can be a combo

Darxmarth23 · Feb 21, 2009

Indexed.

I'll also clean up the index soon. Give it a new look.

Ville · Feb 21, 2009

I'm pretty sure the Nair only is a true combo with jab and grab, at least my opponents shield most of the other stuff in the common case.

Zeallyx · Feb 21, 2009

Face124 said:
I tested, d-air > RB can be a combo

Alright, thank you, I will add it to the OP

Ville said:
I'm pretty sure the Nair only is a true combo with jab and grab, at least my opponents shield most of the other stuff in the common case.

No. The other things listed also work. They are tested, and confirmed to work.

Wogrim · Feb 21, 2009

Could you put it in friendlier colors? Teal isn't too bad but it doesn't match with red.

Edit: I realize this might sound like a lot of work, so if you haven't figured this out, edit post, copy-paste it into notepad or something, and then do a replace all of "red" for something else. Unless everyone else likes the red&teal

SmashBrother2008 · Feb 21, 2009

The colors work fine for me. Perhaps your lighting makes it a bad mix of colors.

Wogrim · Feb 21, 2009

I can read red fine. I can read teal fine. It's just reading from red to teal and back annoys me.

Winnar · Feb 22, 2009

I was going to say something, but yeah the colors kind of bug me too.

Zeallyx · Feb 22, 2009

Wogrim said:
I can read red fine. I can read teal fine. It's just reading from red to teal and back annoys me.

Winnar said:
I was going to say something, but yeah the colors kind of bug me too.

..The colors..>_>
well w/e, wich colors do you suggest?

Lethon · Feb 22, 2009

Do the D-air to aerial combos only work at certain percents?

Darxmarth23 · Feb 23, 2009

I like red and teal, but thats cause i use them. I'm okay with other colors too.

Do what ever you want.

POPS_44 · Feb 23, 2009

Lethon said:
Do the D-air to aerial combos only work at certain percents?

I tested and it works at 50% to 92%(Uair only)

t3h n00b · Mar 1, 2009

Is there another thread with percentages that the dair to knee combo will work on for specific characters? If there is, it would be useful here because I can't find it

And I know someone can get a grab release to footstool on them, if anyone remembers who.

Noodlehead · Mar 1, 2009

t3h n00b said:
Is there another thread with percentages that the dair to knee combo will work on for specific characters? If there is, it would be useful here because I can't find it And I know someone can get a grab release to footstool on them, if anyone remembers who.

here you go, http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=193024

Ree301 · Apr 7, 2009

The flubbed fair (opponent trips) combos into Falcon Punch as well.

Darxmarth23 · Apr 7, 2009

Ree301 said:
The flubbed fair (opponent trips) combos into Falcon Punch as well.

I laughed.

t3h n00b · Apr 7, 2009

Ree301 said:
The flubbed fair (opponent trips) combos into Falcon Punch as well.

Sakurai and his training combo meter... :mad088:

POKE40 · Apr 7, 2009

Ree301 said:
The flubbed fair (opponent trips) combos into Falcon Punch as well.

:O
You preach that!
We'll be top tier in no time!

Face124 · Apr 8, 2009

That's not true.

It does not combo into punch.

PartyHatPikaChu · Apr 8, 2009

Face124 said:
That's not true.

It does not combo into punch.

If they were serious, a puppy became roadkill.

I hope they know that the 'combo meter' in training mode is not reliable at all.
Like face124 said, SH (flubbed/sweetspotted) knee lagless landing does not combo into a falcon punch. Not even if the opponent trips from said flubbed knee.

POKE40 · Apr 8, 2009

Face124 said:
That's not true.

It does not combo into punch.

I was being sarcastic.

Face124 · Apr 8, 2009

POKE40 said:
I was being sarcastic.

It wasn't clear that you were being sarcastic about whether or not the combo was true.

PartyHatPikaChu · Apr 8, 2009

POKE40 said:
I was being sarcastic.

I'm glad. I like puppy's you know.

Prez08 · Apr 8, 2009

Guys, stop bumping this thread plz.

HizoSturm · Apr 12, 2009

short hop >knee?

t3h n00b · Apr 12, 2009

It's an effective way of sweetspotting I guess, but a combo is a string of attacks that an opponent cannot escape (or only under certain conditions, such as damage percentage or teching). The only attack you mentioned there is the knee. Autocanceled dair does combo to the knee though, it's in the first post.

Midnitekoala · Apr 14, 2009

just out of curiosity is a up throw Fair considered inescapable at higher percentages? it's one of my favorite moves to use against friends but against high level players would it be any good?

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