Lucas AT Guide

Yoshi-Kirby · Feb 28, 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KuT8dKJE80

I made a little guide today on how to do Lucas's ATs. I don't know if if contains all of them, but I did include a good amount. I think that I might've named them wrong.

Other than that, it explains how to do them, and shows how to. I made this mainly cuz I was bored today, and I wanted to help out some of the Lucas mains if they didn't know how to do some of the techniques.

Chuee · Feb 28, 2009

The last AT was epic.

FireKirby7 · Feb 28, 2009

That thundersliding thing on FD seems mindgame-y. I should try it with predictable recoveries.

Great vid YK.

prOAPC · Mar 1, 2009

wow, you're fast!
some corrections

reverse pk fire = wavebounced pk fire

when you are talking about zap jump, you're always performing something we call "wave zap", it is a "wavebounced zap jump". You can have zap jump with no momentum if you just press X and B at the same time

after showing dtilt lock combos, it says "dtilt (trip)", in these combos, the dtilt is not tripping the opponent, it just doesn't let him to get up. Dtilt (trip) is when you hit your opponent with the tip of Lucas' foot and the opponent trips

Dxt XXII · Mar 1, 2009

Nice vid. Since I don't B-Stick can't do most of those ATs, though. I'm thinking about starting to B-Stick...

Levitas · Mar 1, 2009

Nice. The video was way informative, and I like how it didn't spend an hour on each text screen.

FlatSoda · Mar 1, 2009

quick and very informative. Though I knew most of these ATs because I've stuck around lurking for quite some time... It'd be a great help for those who don't know and are new to Lucas.

lil cj · Mar 1, 2009

Great vid YK
This actually makes me wanna start b-sticking again

Im starting to see that b-sticking=Lucas metagame

Irsic · Mar 1, 2009

FlatSoda said:
quick and very informative. Though I knew most of these ATs because I've stuck around lurking for quite some time... It'd be a great help for those who don't know and are new to Lucas.

Generally people with over 1k posts aren't considered lurkers.

D:

but i knew what you meant since you don't really post here

ParanoidDrone · Mar 2, 2009

Dammit, every time I watch a Lucas AT video I realize that I need to learn how to BStick in order to not kill my fingers and controller. >_<

*now has a belated New Year's Resolution*

Yoshi-Kirby · Mar 3, 2009

Yay, positve feedback, and I'm making people thinking about Bsticking again. That means something.

Uffe · Mar 3, 2009

Yoshi-Kirby said:
Yay, positve feedback, and I'm making people thinking about Bsticking again. That means something.

With Lucas, people should always B-stick. It makes Lucas safer from harm and it's really good for spacing. That's how I usually go about ****** my opponents with him with the exception of nair. :laugh:

Dxt XXII · Mar 3, 2009

Uffe said:
With Lucas, people should always B-stick.

So what you're saying is that everyone should exchange superior ariel mobility and quick smashes for superior defense and ATs? It really just depends on your playstyle (or if you never use the c-stick for ariels or smashes). You can be really good with Lucas without B-sticking.

Yoshi-Kirby · Mar 3, 2009

Dxt XXII said:
So what you're saying is that everyone should exchange superior aerial mobility and quick smashes for superior defense and ATs? It really just depends on your playstyle (or if you never use the c-stick for aerial or smashes). You can be really good with Lucas without B-sticking.

A friend of mine Csticks, and he can do all of the Bsticking techniques without Bsitck controls. Goes to show you don't have to Bstick to be an awesome Lucas.

Levitas · Mar 3, 2009

He can wavezap? I have a hard time believing that.

Yoshi-Kirby · Mar 3, 2009

He can wavezap, his name is Chunky on AiB. Next time I Brawl him, I'll try to record him doing it.

Levitas · Mar 3, 2009

that's pretty nuts.

Yoshi-Kirby · Mar 3, 2009

Why'd you find it hard to believe in the first place?

Levitas · Mar 3, 2009

Levitas said:
Requirement for a wavezap:

Frame 1: jump
Frame 2: reverse PK fire (PK fire the way you want to move)
Frame 5: hit the direction you want the pk fire to move in (opposite frame 2)(hold)

This is why. this happens in 1/12th of a second, and is 4 very specific inputs on very specific frames.

ChaosTheoryX · Mar 3, 2009

ya while it is impressive that he can d it manually I would never rely heavily on this because of the **** frame specifc times that are required to do many controller inputs

prOAPC · Mar 3, 2009

i think that YS is confused

Yoshi-Kirby · Mar 3, 2009

I'm not really confused about anything. I know it's hard to do, but he can do it.

FireKirby7 · Mar 3, 2009

So what you're saying is that he can wavezap in online lag matches? Chunky must be pretty scary. @_@

Just wait 'til I master it....... With no bstick.

Irsic · Mar 3, 2009

I think he's talking about chuky, a pretty skilled Lucas who doesn't post here. I think he's from Texas.

This guy -> http://allisbrawl.com/profile/chuky.ai

Yoshi-Kirby · Mar 3, 2009

Irsic said:
I think he's talking about chuky, a pretty skilled Lucas who doesn't post here. I think he's from Texas.

This guy -> http://allisbrawl.com/profile/chuky.ai

No, I'm talking about Chunky. He's another skilled Lucas player from Colorado.

Here he is right here -> http://allisbrawl.com/profile/Chunky.ai

He taught me some stuff on Lucas before I came here, and helped me improve. He's really nice.

Uffe · Mar 3, 2009

Dxt XXII said:
So what you're saying is that everyone should exchange superior ariel mobility and quick smashes for superior defense and ATs? It really just depends on your playstyle (or if you never use the c-stick for ariels or smashes). You can be really good with Lucas without B-sticking.

I'm not saying everyone. If you use the C-stick to do aerial and smash attacks, then basically you're limiting yourself to just that when you can do that with the analog and A button. I know Lucas doesn't need B-sticking, but if you don't make use of your C-stick, you might as well change it to something that could be possibly useful.

MeLL0W · Mar 4, 2009

Hrmm I only keep C stick to smashes as the lag on online can make for less accurate aerials and smashes with the analog, Plus I have my Peach who makes use of it as well. B-Sticking is alright but I mean some of the ATs are hardly used that much and they have low priority over some of his ATs. some of them that can be manualed would be all you need but then again its all on preference IMO. But some of them would come in handy for a mixup or something. Not saying you shouldn't use them but remember its just preference. Some of those AT's I don't normally use make me wish I could do them manually. xD

Irsic · Mar 5, 2009

I won't ever switch to C-stick Smashes because I'm not used to using it that way. I C-stick smash with Diddy Kong and I still don't use it. I just use for it glide tossing.

Yoshi-Kirby · Mar 5, 2009

Is there a single Lucas on the boards that doesn't Bstick?

Levitas · Mar 5, 2009

I currently don't.

Irsic · Mar 5, 2009

Most people don't b-stick.

S.D · Mar 5, 2009

I've always B sticked Lucas so i'm sort of used to it by now.

If you can get by without though i recommend you do, c stick aerials are so much more natural and precise.

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