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Yoshi v. Marth
- Thread starter Shiri
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Airborne
Smash Lord
he's a ***** 'nuff said..... i'll probably edit later...
YoshiIslander77z
Smash Apprentice
the more u face him the easier he gets, i try to get close to prevent him spacing and tiped blows pivot grab help alot.
DarkLeviathan89
Smash Lord
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Despite Marth's lack of projectiles, I find that eggs don't really help much here. At least, abusing eggs too much won't do much good in the matchup. I think the best thing to do here is too be familiar with how far Marth needs to be to get tippers. Also, don't get above him, as any of Marth's "up" moves (up smash, up air, up tilt) seem to beat out anything Yoshi has.
For this matchup, I like to use grabs and work with those. Vary it up by throwing eggs after throwing them, or get them above you and try to uair them for some damage. If I can get close enough, jabs and tilts work nicely too, and keeping close helps prevent the dreaded tippers. I think spacing is definitely a key point here.
For this matchup, I like to use grabs and work with those. Vary it up by throwing eggs after throwing them, or get them above you and try to uair them for some damage. If I can get close enough, jabs and tilts work nicely too, and keeping close helps prevent the dreaded tippers. I think spacing is definitely a key point here.
Tidycats29
Smash Cadet
I play this match up like gaymenwatch
camp and grab
punish with up smash
Though i am a bit more agressive when im up close since jab works better against him than G&W
just cause marth doesnt have G&W D-tilt
camp and grab
punish with up smash
Though i am a bit more agressive when im up close since jab works better against him than G&W
just cause marth doesnt have G&W D-tilt
Elefterios
Smash Journeyman
Very good advice, you said exactly what I was thinking.
YoshiIslander77z
Smash Apprentice
lol ppl still dont understand that eggs arnt just to smack someone with they stop marth from runngin at u and ****** u at that mid range distance. if u throw an egg in a place they will be next it will make them approach differently which helps u controll the match.
VSC.D-Torr
Smash Hero
I agree with this completely.
Silent Beast
Smash Journeyman
What do you guys think about CPs? Would RC work well? You have a lot of space to try to camp him for much of the stage.
I don't think Rainbow Cruise is the best bet.Sure you can camp him for a majority of the dynamic parts of the stage, but the more static parts are very much in his favor for his style of play and they present no opportunities to take advantage of his weaknesses.
Pokémon Stadium 1 can work, Lylat Cruise might work also. Pokémon Stadium 2 is a solid choice, but nobody allows that in tournaments very much. Jungle Japes with a very passive-aggressive platform strategy can work as can Brinstar.
Delfino Plaza is a 50/50 shot because while Marth (in my experience, at least) has trouble moving and KOing on most static parts of the stage, the dynamic parts are really there for him as clutch KO spots; it's almost not worth it to risk the ridiculously early deaths that you can incur on that stage against him.
Metatitan
Smash Master
my opinion on the matchup? counterpick a character this is one of those "you probly shouldnt go yoshi" matchups
Gindler
Smash Champion
I do the same, of course marth is alot faster so it doesn't work as well. Of course it's ALOT easier to keep him above you, marth's Dair is slow with massive ending lag so I treat him like rob and try my best to Uair juggle (and bait counters, they always throw those out when everything else fails)
Too bad I second ness, that's even worse
working on fox and rob for matchups like this though but yoshi's so much funner to play asI'm just lucky there's only one really good marth in florida. This is a D3 state sadly.
I don't find Marth as bad as most people are making out, eggs work really well in this matchup.
Marth is vunerable from underneath, try to get under him as much as possible (Uair and Usmash are ur best friends here), he'll ussually go for a counter in that position so be wary and punish the counter. Remember, Yoshis shield don't get poked so it it can take Marths sword dance, very handy. Marth can UpB out of combos though >.<
Try to keep him at length with eggs and throws, look for oppenings to grab. The range of that **** sword pisses me off most, that thing is made out of the same stretchy material as Yoshis tail.
Japes is a nice stage for this matchup if your smart with the platforms, and Rainbow cruise.
Marth is vunerable from underneath, try to get under him as much as possible (Uair and Usmash are ur best friends here), he'll ussually go for a counter in that position so be wary and punish the counter. Remember, Yoshis shield don't get poked so it it can take Marths sword dance, very handy. Marth can UpB out of combos though >.<
Try to keep him at length with eggs and throws, look for oppenings to grab. The range of that **** sword pisses me off most, that thing is made out of the same stretchy material as Yoshis tail.
Japes is a nice stage for this matchup if your smart with the platforms, and Rainbow cruise.
bigman40
Smash Master
If he chooses to Sword Dance on you, you can DJ out of it during the 4th hit (it's the multi-hitting one). I did it a few times in my video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfE3Q3hTKFg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC-Ek_VubZE&feature=related
this is me doing my best, normally i dont get ***** as hard, but these are the only vids i could upload sense this is before i hacked my wii.
and this is a TOP level marth.
also if marth ever gets you off the stage good luck getting back
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC-Ek_VubZE&feature=related
this is me doing my best, normally i dont get ***** as hard, but these are the only vids i could upload sense this is before i hacked my wii.
and this is a TOP level marth.
also if marth ever gets you off the stage good luck getting back
F-Tier Player
Smash Ace
Yoshi coming down from above...egg roll land...hit Marth upon landing, get away fast!!! We need to take advantage of that bounce invincibility...
Poltergust
Smash Master
Actually, I think that Pirate Ship is a good counterpick, too (if it is a counterpick at your tournament). When I chose this against Chaz (probably the best Marth player in Florida), he switched characters. 
Metatitan
Smash Master
that or jungle japes
Gindler
Smash Champion
I'll be sure to keep this in mindActually, I think that Pirate Ship is a good counterpick, too (if it is a counterpick at your tournament). When I chose this against Chaz (probably the best Marth player in Florida), he switched characters.
. Chaz is the only real threat of a marth in florida that i've heard of
Poltergust
Smash Master
I dunno about Jungle Japes. Doesn't Yoshi do badly there?
Anyways, there is ONE thing that we have over Marth: Yoshi Bomb. I'm surprised to see how vulnerable he is to it. If you can spot-dodge at the right time during his attacks, then this move can become invaluable.
Anyways, there is ONE thing that we have over Marth: Yoshi Bomb. I'm surprised to see how vulnerable he is to it. If you can spot-dodge at the right time during his attacks, then this move can become invaluable.
Silent Beast
Smash Journeyman
I'm with Poltergust. Jungle Japes seems counter-intuitive to me, though I admit I'm not too familiar with the stage. With the high ceilings, though, it makes the kill tougher for Yoshi, while Marth has a much easier time killing off the sides.
Dr. Robotnik
Smash Journeyman
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this is really good advice. playing this style is great on short ceiling, small platform stages like green greens, rainbow cruise, and suprisingly norfair.